Should we have gone to Iraq?

the men and women of the United States armed forces knew what they signed up for. they died proudly for our country. dont take that away from them. the Iraq campaign was not a mistake. we took down a corrupt regime and set up a diplomatic government. mission success. they died for a good cause.

I don’t believe we should’ve gone to Iraq. They did not attack us, and it did not make us safer to go into there. As the only Republican in Congress I like said in a speech to the House of Representatives way back before the war started.

Congressman Ron Paul U.S. House of Representatives September 4, 2002

Arguments Against a War in Iraq

“…We have for months now heard plenty of false arithmetic and lame excuses for why we must pursue a preemptive war of aggression against an impoverished third world nation 6000 miles from our shores that doesn’t even possess a navy or air force, on the pretense that it must be done for national security reasons.

For some reason such an attack makes me feel much less secure, while our country is made more vulnerable… …We need this sentiment renewed in this Congress in order to avoid a needless war that offers us nothing but trouble. Congress must deal with this serious matter of whether or not we go to war. I believe it would be a mistake with the information that is available to us today. I do not see any reason whatsoever to take young men and young women and send them 6,000 miles to attack a country that has not committed any aggression against this country. Many American now share my belief that it would be a serious mistake…”

He then goes on to point out many of the reasons we shouldn’t go into Iraq. He said all this despite the fact that so many of the neo-con hack Republicans, were going for war.

http://www.house.gov/paul/congrec/congrec2002/cr090402.htm

We always go back to 9/11 because that event got the ball rolling. and you wrote and said “Are you saying that my relatives sacrifice means nothing?!!”

I did not say that. My son sacrificed. I SUPPORT OUR TROOPS!

I DO NOT SUPPORT THIS WAR!

It wasnt a waste of oil thats for sure. There were no terrorist activities in iraq because they were scared of saddam hussain who was our ALLY and a good help in the middle east he kept it stable. He may have killed a million kurds but he had his reasons they were causing trouble on the border and years before they were killing his people. America didnt give 2 s*s about human lives hence why they bomb innocent civilians! I feel sorry for the american soldiers they are HEROES but they arent fighting for a worthy cause. We should be invading Burma and Rwanda not iraq and afghanistan!

Why do you guys always go back to 9/11. I saw that shi* same as you but it was terrorist who did it not the Iraq people and yes we are spreading democracy but not this way an army should be used for war not police. I wish this war could end and we could go back to being a peaceful nation and a spartan culture. And for the record I personally like to thank all our vets and people in the armed forces for their sacrifice to this country. Even if they feel unapricated we all love you and may God bless you and you families thankyou.

Utopia is correct. The Terrorist from 9/11 weren’t from iraq.

In my opinion war is always a stupid idea and if your president didn’t send you people to iraq, you would still have all those died alive and you wouldn’t be in such an economic crises as you are now.

Like a lot of people including me,than George Bush for sending them out there,like my mom told me,he either had nothing to do or just didn’t care about many lives seeing that he barely had anything to say about those who had their lives taken due to the war.

No they shouldn’t have gone to Iraq,just a waste of time getting killed over our FORMER president.

Are you kidding me??? do you not remember 11 sep 01? if Bush did not send our troops to iraq, they would have just kept on attacking us. im soory that your relatives died but it was for a good cause… the United States. this country has to defend itself or we are going to be walked all over by our enemies. I dont know about you but I like having my freedoms.

I love freedom to but come on,if Bush didn’t send them out their,we would still have those who died still alive,I hate losing people,especially to mindless people with no life. Don’t forget,not only are they killing our troops,but they’re also killing their own people by bombing and shooting stray bullets.

I think Bush made the right decision to send our troops over there. Iraq needs a taste of their own medicene. They attack us we’re gunna attack them.

So what should the price of freedom be?

  Are we in America the only ones who should be entitled to freedom?

If we in America are entitled to freedom then we must be willing to fight the enemies of our freedom – wherever they may reside.

You will believe what you want to believe, but Iraq is about freedom. The fact that there are small factions who will try to disrupt that quest for freedom does not negate the will of the majority of those people who do strive for freedom and liberty.

Sure, many of our boys are dying. But just as in WWI and WWII, we chose to fight on foreign shores to protect and further the freedom and liberty within our own shores.

Freedom and liberty is a God-given right. At least that is according to the Christian God. The problem is that not all religions agree with that perception.

The price of freedom and liberty is high whether it is just to defend America’s freedom and liberty or to aid another people to have a chance at freedom and liberty.

Is Iraq and its people’s quest for freedom and liberty worth the sacrifice of American lives? Yes, if we are trying to instill liberty and freedom into the world in order that ours may be preserved.

“A Military Story-Don’t Close Your Blinds”

The other day, my nine year old son wanted to know why we were at war.

My husband looked at our son and then looked at me. My husband and I were in the Army during the Gulf War and we would be honored to serve and defend our Country again today. I knew that my husband would give him a good explanation.

My husband thought for a few minutes and then told my son to go stand in our front living room window. He said “Son, stand there and tell me what you see?”

“I see trees and cars and our neighbor’s houses.” he replied.

“OK, now I want you to pretend that our house and our yard is the United States of America and you are President Bush.”

Our son giggled and said “OK.”

“Now son, I want you to look out the window and pretend that every house and yard on this block is a different country” my husband said.

“OK Dad, I’m pretending.”

“Now I want you to stand there and look out the window and pretend you see Saddam come out of his house with his wife, he has her by the hair and is hitting her. You see her bleeding and crying. He hits her in the face, he throws her on the ground, then he starts to kick her to death. Their children run out and are afraid to stop him, they are screaming and crying, they are watching this but do nothing because they are kids and they are afraid of their father. You see all of this son… what do you do?”

“Dad?”

“What do you do son?”

“I’d call the police, Dad.”

“OK. Pretend that the police are the United Nations and they take your call, listen to what you know and saw but they refuse to help. What do you do then?”

“Dad… but the police are supposed to help!” My son starts to whine.

“They don’t want to son, because they say that it is not their place or your place to get involved and that you should stay out of it,” my husband says.

“But Dad…he killed her!!” my son exclaims.

“I know he did…but the police tell you to stay out of it. Now I want you to look out that window and pretend you see our neighbor who you’re pretending is Saddam turn around and do the same thing to his children.”

“Daddy…he kills them?”

“Yes son, he does. What do you do?”

“Well, if the police don’t want to help, I will go and ask my next door neighbor to help me stop him.” our son says.

“Son, our next door neighbor sees what is happening and refuses to get involved as well. He refuses to open the door and help you stop him,” my husband says.

“But Dad, I NEED help!!! I can’t stop him by myself!!”

“WHAT DO YOU DO SON?” Our son starts to cry.

“OK, no one wants to help you, the man across the street saw you ask for help and saw that no one would help you stop him. He stands taller and puffs out his chest. Guess what he does next son?”

“What Daddy?”

“He walks across the street to the old ladies house and breaks down her door and drags her out, steals all her stuff and sets her house on fire and then…he kills her. He turns around and sees you standing in he window and laughs at you.

WHAT DO YOU DO?”

“Daddy…”

“WHAT DO YOU DO?”

Our son is crying and he looks down and he whispers, “I’d close the blinds, Daddy.”

My husband looks at our son with tears in his eyes and asks him…”Why?”

“Because Daddy…the police are supposed to help people who needs them…and they won’t help… You always say that neighbors are supposed to HELP neighbors, but they won’t help either…they won’t help me stop him…I’m afraid…I can’t do it by myself Daddy…I can’t look out my window and just watch him do all these terrible things and…and…do nothing…so…I’m just going to close the blinds… so I can’t see what he’s doing…and I’m going to pretend that it is not happening.”

I start to cry.

My husband looks at our nine year old son standing in the window, looking pitiful and ashamed at his answers to my husband’s questions and he says…”Son”

“Yes, Daddy.”

“Open the blinds because that man… he’s at your front door… “WHAT DO YOU DO?”

My son looks at his father, anger and defiance in his eyes. He balls up his small fists and looks his father square in the eyes, without hesitation he says: “I DEFEND MY HOUSE, DAD!! I’M NOT GONNA LET HIM HURT MOMMY OR MY SISTER, DAD!!! I’M GONNA FIGHT HIM, DAD, I’M GONNA FIGHT HIM!!!”

I see a tear roll down my husband’s cheek and he grabs our son to his chest and hugs him tight, and says… “It’s too late to fight him, he’s too strong and he’s already at YOUR front door son…you should have stopped him BEFORE he killed his wife, and his children and the old lady across the way. You have to do what’s right, even if you! have to do it alone, before it’s too late.” my husband whispers.

THAT scenario I just gave you is WHY we are at war with Iraq. When good men stand by and let evil happen son, THAT is the greatest EVIL of all. Our President is doing what is right. We, as a free nation, must understand that this war is a war of humanity.

WE must remove evil men from power so that we can continue to live in a free world where we are not afraid to look out our window so that my nine year old son won’t grow up in a world where he feels that if he just “closes” that blinds the atrocities in the world won’t affect him.

“YOU MUST NEVER BE AFRAID TO DO WHAT IS RIGHT! EVEN IF YOU HAVE TO DO IT ALONE!” BE PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN! BE PROUD OF OUR TROOPS!! SUPPORT THEM!!! SUPPORT AMERICA!! SO THAT IN THE FUTURE OUR CHILDREN WILL NEVER HAVE TO CLOSE THEIR BLINDS…”

   the above “A Military Story-Don’t Close Your Blinds” was apparently written by Bonnie Florea in 2004.     Welcome to Fun Advice!

  Friendship is continuous!

Those whom I meet, as Friends I greet, And as a Friend I treat them so; That when in need, or sadly grieved, I may help their Spirits grow.

So when I hear, upon my ear, The sounds of troubled Souls; I can do no less, then to do my best, To help them toward their goals.

And I know I’ll find, with the passage of time, That I’ve helped their Spirits grow some; And though appreciated, thanks aren’t awaited, For my friends are always welcome.

tim8u7 … “do you not remember 11 sep 01? if Bush did not send our troops to iraq, they would have just kept on attacking us.”

declanluvr41 … “They attack us we’re gunna attack them.”

You do realize that NOT ONE PERSON WHO ATTACKED US ON 9/11 WAS FROM IRAQ.

Of the 19 hijackers, fifteen of the hijackers were from Saudi Arabia, two from the United Arab Emirates, one from Egypt, and one from Lebanon.

I REPEAT - NOT ONE WAS FROM IRAQ. If the war was about payback for 9/11 we would have gone into Saudi. Oh wait… the Saudis were Bush’s friends.

ethmer - The Bush Administration LIED to gain support and votes for this war. My son was a soldier and is now disabled and you can bet that he did not deserve to be 30 and disabled based on a LIE.

And your little story, it means NOTHING because IRAQ was NOT at our door. The vast majority of 9/11 terrorists were from SAUDI. They were at our door, why did we NOT go after them?

“You will believe what you want to believe, but Iraq is about freedom.”

That was an afterthought. Iraq was supposed to be about keeping us safe from an imminent attack, and because Saddam was some how tied to the people who attacked us. And when that was proven a lie, the story changed and it became about spreading democracy. What Iraq was really about was controlling mideast oil reserves. That had their eyes on it long before they took office, and the day after 9/11 they started to see how they could turn this into a reason to attack Iraq.

It was all based on lies ethmer, and these little stories, that the wingnuts love to email everyone, are nothing but propaganda. Most people have woken up and are not falling for the fear-mongering anymore.

ok moron suport the troops you want your realativs to have died for nothing and dont be like the damm war protesters insulting and makeing our troops mad and feel unaprisheated like veaitnam

jhondoe - given your way with words…my son was in the military, special forces, went to iraq very early… He thinks we were WRONG to be in Iraq.

and for the record…perhaps a dictionary would be in order before calling us morons…