do YOU think we should change the pledge of alligiance?

there as been debate over the “one nation under God”. many people living in the U.S have different religions.

Yes, however i dont see it happening. We have freedom of religion in our country, yet our pledge says “under god”. It hardly makes any sense.

It’s a nondenominational pledge, not a prayer. It’s like saying “god bless you” to someone if they sneeze, do we cut that out too because the person sitting next to you doesn’t call their god, god? Or for that matter, doesn’t even believe in god?

thats because everyone who first made the US were christains

i think we should because it says, “under god,” and since the constitution separates religion and state, its ridiculous that they make you say it at school everyday, especially when half of people dont even believe in god.

Throughout my schooling i’ve always refused to say the pledge of alligiance, i’ve simply sat down through it.

HELL NO. we SHOULD NOT change it to be politically correct.

nope, i already learned it and its not worth wasting my time to learn a different version (:

Easy: the Christian that WROTE the thing for more than 70 years and our country thought it was fine, WITHOUT mentioning god.

Learn some history people…and yes, even on our site, this has gone rounds more than once.

If you actually learn some history, it’s pretty easy to see that “under god” was added, when and why…

http://www.funadvice.com/q/the_pledge_of_alligience See there…the Supreme Court as has been mentioned, HERE, already decreed you can’t force a child to stand and recite the thing.

People…I know not all of you are children, but this makes me cry.

No. It’s fine the way it is. Whoever thinks it should be changed are fcked.

I think we should drop it all together. Loyalty oaths have no place in a free society. It is beneath the dignity of human beings to pledge unconditional allegiance to any nation or symbol. The pledge is also a lie; we do not have liberty and justice for all. It may be a worthy goal to work toward but not even close to being realized.

Which change are you referring to? Francis Bellamy wanted to list “equality” as one of qualities of our republic but at the time the idea that blacks and women were equal was too controversial. Some have proposed changing it to “liberty, equality, and justice for all” since liberty and justice are often at odds and equality should mediate between them. Some people want to remove “one nation under God” which was inserted during height of the cold war paranoia trying to draw a distinction between Christian Americans and atheist Soviets. Others want to tack “born and unborn” on the end to extend the promise of rights to zygotes, embryos and fetuses.

I think it should be for a good change of pace but we don’t change it because it’s been around for a good 110 years while representing the nationalistic spirit and patriotic attitude of the american people and has stood to show that as a nation all of us as idividual people in different states cannot be broken while under the solid republic foundation that was formed after the civil war, one that would and could protect our freedoms and bring us justice indiscriminately. I’m not saying i really want to change any of the themes or any of the pledge as i said i wanted to, it’s just that the nation really isnt as loyal and devoted as it was 60 or 70 years ago, and bringing a god into it doesnt make it any better but having made a country where people constantly improve upon themselves, thats what makes a country what it is not pledge everyone takes for granted , despite the supposedly outrageous things that there might be that we say we wouldn’t ever do, but would do because it doesnt seem right to put a limit on freedom because a single person didnt find it justifiable. Sorry if anyone doesnt seem to like this

@iamsweet - no, they weren’t all Christians…many signers of the declaration of independence were Free Masons.

what do you learn in school these days? OR you could even watch “national treasure” you know, the Nicholas Cage movie…that’s got a little bit of truth to it, anyway :)