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Actually, this comment is barely confused at all; I'd say it's at least 90% right. You are right to distinguish between Judaism (religion) and what could be called Jewishness (something like ethnicity). Just two points, the first of which is not because of any confusion on your part, but just for further clarity: 1) Since Judaism is much less doctrine-centered than the larger, proselytizing religions, there is quite a range of beliefs even among the most traditional ("Orthodox") Jews on some matters - reincarnation, for example. Once you include theologically liberal Jews, that range becomes even broader. So even among religious Jews (born Jewish or not), you can find more than a few people who hold religious beliefs that are not "Jewish beliefs" in their origin. The belief that Jesus was a prophet, for example, has been personally adopted by some Jews (maybe even some liberal rabbis?) largely, I would say, hoping to ameliorate the cognitive and social dissonance of living as a Jew in a Christian environment. (It's odd, given that few if any Christians consider Jesus to have been merely one of the many biblical prophets. But I bet few of the Jews who believe it recognize it for the Islamic belief that it is.) In any case, it contradicts the foundational texts of Judaism - with which most contemporary liberal Jews, alas, are not very familiar. 2) Your only confusion, as far as I can see, is a very common one: In the USA, Jews are widely considered to be both an ethnic group and a religious one. I don't know how this is in Europe, but a moment's reflection is enough to realize that in the state of Israel, Jews comprise multiple ethnicities - Iraqi Jews, Yemeni Jews, Moroccan Jews, Ethiopian Jews, Anglo-American Jews, German Jews, Russian and Eastern European Ashkenazi Jews, and post-Yiddish (Russian-speaking) Russian Jews, etc. So one cannot very well say that Jews, as a whole, are a single ethnic group. Yet clearly there are millions of Jews whose Jewishness is not a matter of religion. What then is its nature? Zionists claim that Jews are a single nation. I would say the purpose of that claim was more prescriptive than descriptive. In other words, it served to help reestablish an actual Jewish nation in the Holy Land, after a very long hiatus. In my view, the best descriptor for Jews of all different regions, colors, languages, national cultures, etc., is that we are a people. That - or its Hebrew cognate - is one of the terms for us used in the Bible. It is also in widespread contemporary use for other groups that maintain a collective, national sensibility despite living in diaspora; for example, the Palestinian people.
Oh Goody, you'll be happy to know that The egyption God Ra was The First Being to exist 'ever' in the Egyptian creation story, therefore he wasn't born to anything really (unless you call nature a virgin). Secondly Ra didn't have 12 'disciples' unless you have an source E.g. Egyptian manuscript stating that Ra had 12 disciples. Thirdly I can't find ANYTHING that says Ra was 'betrayed for 50 pieces of silver'. Lastly, many of this attributes are attached to Horus not Ra, and by Laymen internet trolls who like to post you tube videos on the subject. Try finding an Historical scholar saying this garbage. Good day.
I'll probably never get it right... Okay. There are two things. Jewish religion. And Jewish ethnicity. Of course people who are Jewish ethnicity could be any religion. And most people who are Jewish religion are also Jewish ethnicity, as they don't usually attract converts... The guy I was talking about told me that he was a Jew after asked him what religion he is. So obviously he was talking about Jewish religion. Are there any more exact terms to use to differ the two? Should I call Jewish religion Judaism? I am positively confused.
There are Jewish atheists, Jewish pagans... like anyone else, Jews can believe anything they want. That doesn't mean their ideas are "Jewish beliefs." According to Torah, G!d brought the era of public Jewish prophecy to an end a few hundred years before the time that Jesus is said to have lived. Yes, religious Jews - like billions of other people in the world - "believe in" (worship) G!d, not Jesus.
right so we gotta go back in time a bit to Egyptian god RA who was born to a virgin, had 12 disciples, was betrayed for 50 pieces of silver, died and was reborn in 3 days, there is also an indian god who had the same story
also a pagan god and one i think from 1066 B.C
so ya its nothing to argue about really...
The Jews and the Muslims basically believe in the same God that the Christians believe in - all of them believe in Abrahams God - but to them Jesus is one prophet out of many prophets but not the Messiah.
So that person you talk about might be just a little confused about what religion he is.
Thanks. Okay, then the views of Jews differ about that. I knew a Jew who said that Jesus was a prophet. (Damn, it rhymes... no intention here...) Yet, someone who believes in God but not in "what Jesus did" could still be a Jew.
Astrid, it is true that Muslims believe Jesus to have been one of the prophets, but it is not correct to say Jews believe that. There is no consensus in Judaism about who or what Jesus was; only about who and what he was not.
Only because the soldier, kept silent. . ◣'◢ . .
If I had of commented. And I say "IF" . . It would have
turned into an all out warfare, "eye for eye," type
of post. .
You say, "Good morning! I'm Tammy. How are you?" {:^)
You could even say, "What a glorious day - thank G!d!" if you want to.
i believe in Abrahams God , even jesus prayed to almighty and all great things jesus has done , almighty made it possible
Every word of God proves true. He defends all who come to him for protection. Proverbs 30:5
Every word of God proves true. He defends all who come to him for protection. Proverbs 30:5
Just show them the bible , its histories are true
well my religion believes that ,
I am so happy that this question didn't get people argueing and fighting :-)
these instead of this
thank you Hayyim
jew's (judaism)
*Egyptian
