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why did jesus came to earth
In the begining God gave only one command, for man to live by, man could not even do that one thing that God required of him, even though God had given him everything that he needed to be happy and content, including a helpmate.He did not have to strive or work or get hot and sweaty as we do today, because he was in a perfect invironment, in which everything was perfect, and all his needs were met. When man disobeyed the one thing that God told him not to do, he was put out of this perfect place, and forced to make it on his own. Now, thru blood, sweat and tears, we make our way, on this earth. God gave man a conscience, so that he would know right from wrong, and that conscience would one day bring man back to God. Man can disobey his own conscience so much that it becomes seared over, no longer capable of leading him in the right way, at this point he becomes a danger to society. Fit for nothing, except to be destroyed, to save others from what is in him. This was not, nor is Gods will for any man. He desires to bring man back into obedience to himself, so, that man can live happy and contented lives, that glorify him, as God, that point others to him, as God, to declare that he is the Alpha and the Omega, the begining and the end, that his way is perfect, and that there is no other way, to heaven, except thru him. God is perfect, and sinless, and desires the same out of his creatures, including mankind. Since the fall of Adam, we are now born into sin, and sin lives within us, which is disobedience to Gods known will. The only way around this, is a sinless sacrifice, which God gave him self, to atone for our sins, and to apease his righteous requirements, in order to bring man back into harmony with his plan from the begining. He is not looking for robots, he is looking for those that will worship him in sincerity and truth. When we come to him, in repentance for our sin, we receive his forgiveness, because of the one time sacrifice of his only Son, Jesus Christ. The only sinless man that ever lived. Some say, I am a very good person, why do I need to be saved? God says that if we have ever committed a sin, either in thought or in deed, that we are guilty and need to be redeemed. There is no one among us that qualifies for heaven, without this provision. God says that all our goodness is as filthy rags, compared to his holiness... which we cannot comprehend. The ground is level at Calvary, we are all equal in his sight, we are all sinners that need a savior. Pride will keep us from coming to the cross. Doubt will hinder us, if we allow it. Unforgiveness will block all our efforts at hearing from and receiving from God. He says that we have to become as little children, trusting, in him and his provision. He receives us when we come this way. He opens himself up to us, for it is his desire to commune with his earthly family. That is why we were created to begin with, to fellowship with him, and to bring him glory by our lives, lived out in obedience to him. Earth is our proving ground, we are in his school, hopefully we will be obedient pupils. His arms are always open, to "Whosoever will... "
Jesus came to earth to pay for price for my and your sins - without that sacrifice, man had no hope of going to Heaven for God cannot even look upon sin - the blood of Jesus covers our sins, where they are seen and remembered, no more by that sacrifice - God loved us enough to provide this way to eternal life with Him - so Jesus was crucified, died, and was buried. Then he arose from the dead and ascended to heaven. This is central to the Christian faith, because the entire reason for Jesus' coming was to defeat the consequences of sin, and eternal death. Christians believe that Jesus took the death penalty of sin upon Himself, and paid the price on our behalf. The commemoration of the birth of Jesus Christ has been observed for centuries as Christmas. There is no scriptural commandment to celebrate Christmas, but the significance of Christmas should be obvious to anyone. It roughly marks the day to remember, when God gave to us the greatest gift ever given in the history of mankind. He gave Himself as God the Son, Jesus, who would choose to die in our place. His unique blood was destined to wash our sins away then, now, and forever.
Faith is believing without the benefit of seeing. Jesus suffered and died horribly on the cross for our benefit. Believing, without seeing, should not be much of a burden to bear. The name of Jesus does not demand death for those who use it inappropriately, but offers life for those who write it upon their hearts...Hope this helps !!
Well, these translations don't name Jesus as the first creation, at least as they are interpreted by orthodox Christians. (By 'orthodox' I mean 'standard' e.g. Baptists, Catholics, Pentecostals, Free Church, Methodist, whatever...)
Orthodox belief is that Jesus is not created, he is God. He was there in the beginning, with God the Father and the Spirit, and was an integral part of the creation.
I know that the Jehovah's Witnesses believe he was the first created being, and that's what I thought you might be coming from.
I think the second bit of your answer, relating Jesus' time on earth to the Hebrew's desire to be ruled by a man, is very interesting. I know Jesus came to show us the way to God, to teach us more about God and to die for our sins, but a theological link to this point in the Old Testament is intriguing. I hadn't heard it before.
I hope you don't feel I'm picking on you about the 'created/not created' thing. I think to your personal faith it might make little or no difference (although others may disagree!). It does make a difference to churches/cults who collectively don't believe that Jesus is God, because they end up seeing his sacrifical death as relatively insignificant, whereas in orthodox Christianity it's the biggest thing in the whole Bible.
Jesus is Gods anointed son. Despite the hateful opposition that Jesus experienced, he did God’s will and maintained integrity to death on a torture stake. He thereby paid the ransom price to redeem mankind from the death-dealing consequences of Adam’s sin. (Matthew 20:28) Hence, on the eve of his death, Jesus could confidently pray: “I have glorified you on the earth, having finished the work you have given me to do. So now you, Father, glorify me alongside yourself with the glory that I had alongside you before the world was.” (John 17:4, 5) Jesus could say those words to his heavenly Father because he was successfully meeting the test of accountability and was acceptable to God. Does that help?
True, the Lord was pleased when Samuel annointed Saul as king over Israel. You're right about that to a point. Remember who the king was? Saul. Saul was appointed king and he went through with following God's commands but then when David came into the picture Saul all but forgot God because Saul had too much pride. The point is, and this relays back to the original question, that there is only one King and His name is Jesus. He came to seek and to save we who were lost. He was fully God and fully man.
For all who are think Jesus is a seperate being from god,genral. He is not. Jesus, the holy ghost, and God are all the same beings. Jesus is his own father because all of the decendents of Adam, all humans, are not perfect and pure and only the Lord is perfect in ever sense and he took a human to show us the error of our ways to make us repent for our sins so it didnt add up so that no one could get through the gates of heaven.
Jesus is the first creation made by God, through him all things are made manifest. He is here because when the Hebrews were asked if they wanted to be ruled by God or man, they chose man. Even Saul, David and Solomon did not live up to the expectations set upon them. Jesus is the answer to the question that man wants to be ruled by man; that is why Jesus always referred to himself as the "Son of Man"
Elone, your interpreting the passage incorrectly. It refers to the obedience to God's laws that were given to the Israelites. Verse 12 is very specific in that God says that He was their king while the Israelites obeyed the commandments of God. Israel was in such turmoil that they wanted a king to rule them and they disobeyed God's instructions and they got punished for their wrong choice.
different point of views.
christians: jesus is the son of god, who came to earth to die for human kind making it easier for them to get into heaven.
muslims: jesus was a prophet, but not the son of god. jesus was born of the virgin mary, but wasn;t cruxified, instead was saved before that and brought into heaven. jesus is to come at the end of times, too
gasmanobt3 What version are you reading? All versions I checked say the same thing. Verses 12-14 clearly state that: In 12; The people wanted a king instead of a Divine Ruler. Verse 13: The presentation of a newly appointed king. Verse 14; If the people follow the king and the king follows the LORD, the LORD is okay with this arrangement.
Elone, that's interesting - what theology are you referring to there? I know it's not orthodox Christian belief - is it the teaching of a particular church?
Nothing taken personally; I did spend a year studying with the witnesses; they are very serious Bible students.
Look at 1 Samuel 12: 11-17
Jesus is the mighty son of God sent to Earth to serve as a ransom sacrifice, who died and deliver us from the Adamic sin...
Jesus is my Saviour, Lord and Friend.
This is not some boast on my part - the same offer is open to everyone!
Are you serious? This is to the person who asked the question.
The Christian Bible: KJV, RSV, etc.
I'm not convinced that he did.
Thanks - that's helpful.
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