Since it is obvious she can not win in pledged delegates, and the superdelegates have all been falling Obama's way, and are not willing to go against the will of the people, when do you think she will finally quit? Or do you think she will take all the way to the convetion no matter what?
lol, jimahl you're one of the people I like on here most, but on this I guess we just can't agree. I like Obama, too. But there's something I can't ignore when thinking about this question: Hillary Clinton leads Obama, sometimes by a comfortable margin in the "swing" states. And I'm not talking about primary swing states, I'm talking about states that will be up for grabs in November. In Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Florida, Clinton not only has the lead over Obama, she performs better than Obama against McCain in polls. And a disturbingly high number of polled Democrats prefer McCain to Obama, and that tally is much less when Clinton is matched against McCain.
Up until now, I've been hearing Obama supporters say that if Clinton keeps campaigning, and then gets the nomination, it will ruin party unity. Obama supporters will become disgusted and throw in the towel, staying home in November rather than voting for Clinton. Did it never occur to anyone that the opposite could happen? In fact, hasn't anyone noticed that the opposite is much more likely to happen, given the numbers? That being, that Clinton suppoters will become disgruntled if Obama gets the nomination, and rather than staying home in November, some will actually vote for McCain?
People act as if Obama has overwhelming support and Clinton is just hanging in this thing by a thread. Clinton has enormous support, especially in the battleground states, and let's face it those are the ones that matter.
mjax1979, thanks for the support. lol
I agree that Hillary has won big in swing states like FL & PA. States that Obama may have trouble with. But he has also brought in other states, that Hillary would have trouble with, like VA and NC. I just think all the new voters Obama has energized will make the difference. Hillary still has huge negatives, much higher than Obama, despite the corpporate media's attempt to paint him with the Rev. Wrght brush.
Yes, Clinton still has a huge support base, and in the end she will encourage all of them to vote for Obama over McCain, and the party will heal. I thought her speach tonight was pretty good. Like I said. It was the begining of the end for her.
Amblessed, that is not surprising. That is why the super delegates were created in the first place. Electability is not an issue for Obama, regardless of what Hillary says. In my opinion he is more electable. There is no indication they would vote for Hillary, even if Obama wins the pledged delegates and the popular vote. They only said that electability is there biggest factor in choosing. They will not overturn the will of the people and deny Obama the nomination. You will start seeing the supers coming out for Obama now that it is crystal clear she can not win. He only needs 184 delegates to clinch it. I predict within 2 weeks she will drop out.
Well It looks like the begining of the end for hillary after tonight. I think she will stick it out through west virginia to go out on a high note, and then will try to bow out gracefully. Her speach tonight sounded rather conciliatory. I can't see her going on much longer. I think after tonight the un-announced superdelegates will start falling towards Obama.
I think it would actually do more damage if she just drops out immediately. It is going to take a couple of weeks. Hopefully she will use the time, to stop the negative attackes on Obama, and convince her core supporters that is alright for them to support him. Doing it too abruptly would leave her supporters bitter and divided.
Uncommitted Democratic superdelegates in Congress overwhelmingly say they won’t necessarily back the presidential candidate who wins the most primary delegates. Instead, electability will be very important in their decision. Of 42 lawmakers interviewed by The Hill, only four said they regarded the primary vote as decisive.
I think that she will ride it out till the very end as well. I totally agree with editors comment about obama and clinton incinerating themselves, I will be voting for mccain anyway- but oh what an intersting race it is going to be when a dem. nominee is finally decided- after this obama/ clinton state of affairs.
Hillary will never give up seeking power - she'll go all the way and possibly beyond - seated in a chair beside the winner at the inaugaration ! - we don't know what she has on or pressure she can bring to bear on the SD's to swing her way, so I wouldn't write her obit just yet - it's a 'wait and see'.
I think she is going to use the next two weeks to bow out gracefully. I bet you will here very little Obama bashing from her anymore. She will still try to resurrect the spectre of FL and MI, but even with them, she can not win.
I almost wish she would give up because she and Obama are making themselves look like petty fools while McCain quietly sits in the background, watching them incinerate themselves.
HOPEFULLY SOON. I'M COMPLETELY FOR OBAMA, BUT I'M SURE HILLARY IS going to RIDE IT OUT TIL SHE ACTUALLY COMES IN 2ND.
I think she'll take it all the way- she's serious about this election, and good on her for it!
Probably. It's been an interesting campaign, anyway. One for the books!