So we in art class today, and of the people in our class has been doing religious themed work, and somehow there was a discussion about who was religious, our teacher said she could never be a christian or whatever, basically because of how badly women are treated, and that it doesnt encourage women to be strong and so on, so are women really treated that badly in gods own words?
You have to understand that any good Christian man nowadays treats his wife / girlfriend as an equal and the best he possibly can. (I know I do) There are ways to interperet these verses, and the ones that tell men to honor, respect and comfort their wives. In the times when they were written, I think it was mostly in the interest of keeping families together because in those times of EXTREME manual labor and the way societies lived, men HAD to earn all the money and or provide food and shelter. ( I don't know if I'm opening this can of worms bigger, or helping here) but anyway, ask any married woman who is being honest and she WANTS her husband to be the man of the house, take charge when necessary, but at the same time, be kind, tactful and respectful about it. Women don't want us to be wimps, they want us to be men. I don't care what anybody says, the man of the house is responsible for everything that happens there because the world will cut him no slack or grant him any excuses whatsoever. If something goes wrong, it's gonna be the man's fault. My wife probably makes more decisions than I do around here because I trust in and respect her judgement, but I have, and will set my foot down when I need to, explain why, and she respects me for it because she understands and knows that I'm looking out for both of us. (It's my job as a man)
Of course I do. The expectations for men and women are very different comparing from now and then. I simply given evidence to each of my points taken directly from the Bible in which are all relevant. The Bible itself is very controversial and contradicts itself ("Thou shalt not kill" against "thou shalt not suffer a witch to live") so it's hard to tell which message to interpret. The times of the Bible it was expected for the women to stay at home, have the children and be submissive. That is the traditional view of a woman and some Christians do continue this such as the Catholic Church not allowing female priests. It is such teachings like this why I find the Bible particularly - and I would use a word less strong but I cannot think of an alternative - hateful however this isn't always the case. I do not believe men and women have roles nor should they meet the gender expectations set down by any God or society. They should not be led by anyone or be expected to fill any role they do not wish, there is no such thing has having a "job as a man" or "job as a woman". And my answer isn't up for debate.
The Bible isn't 100% fair towards women. I wouldn't say the Bible was particularly misogynistic, more pro-male, putting men in charge of women. Traditionally women were to be treated as things to be possessed, not as people. For instance Ephisians 5.22 says "Wives submit yourself to your husbands as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, as Christ is the head of the Church." This isn't women-hating but more explains to women that their role is under men. This is continued in 1 Timothy 2:11-14 it says "I do not permit a woman to have any authority over a man; For Adam was formed first. And Adam was not the deceived; it was the women was the deceived." However, the Bible also says "There is neither Jew nor Greek, Slave nor Free, Male nor Female; for we are all one in Christ." Some argue that Jesus's chosen 12 were all men and therefore only men should be in charge of the Church. It's more of a equality issue than hate issue.
I respect your pont, and please don't think I'm "one of those" because it's not the case. It's a can of worms being opened like I said. The Bible can't be understood by one verse here and another one there. It's a big picture, and the only way to see it is to read and understand all of it. There is a fine line between political correctness, truth, and reality. All I'm saying is that the words of old have a different meaning now but women still want us to be men. I never said a woman couldn't do any job or visa-versa. Men and women are designed with certain characteristics that deep down basically don't change. I know there are exceptions, but rare compared to the world population. I just seen you are 15, trust me if you ever get married to a woman, if you don't stand up for and protect her in a time of need, you won't be married long and that's reality.
There is actually quite a bit in the Bible telling women to be submissive and subservient. In the Old Testament women are often treated more as property than equals. On the other hand there are strong women in the Bible and passages where husbands are told to treat their wives well. To me the way women are treated in the Bible is one of the reasons I find it hard to believe. The Bible seems to represent the views of mankind thousands of years ago rather than an infinitely wise God.
Absolutley not. Anyone who has read the Bible knows that it's rather on the contrary. Some people like to use one or two short verses OUT OF CONTEXT, and twist the meanings around. The Bible holds women in the highest regard, to be respected and treated with kindness. There are many strong women in the Bible and it is a sin to treat a woman badly or unfairly.
... I know this one story my friend told me... She said that god made eve out of adam's rib bone. Not the skull to be served, and not the leg to be enslaved, but under the arms to be loved, and at his side to be his partner... That was her telling of the whole thing... So I guess I believe it... Im Not exactly a religious person......
Oh my gosh I'm so sorry, (seriously ) I just now looked at your profile and seen that you are a girl. I appologize. That changes everything because I thougt I was talking to a boy. The laugh is on me. I have a bad habit of not looking at who I'm responding to.
We have two things in common: Lack of respect for mainstream media and big government. These other things we will just argue about so I'm done with that unless you want to talk about something else.
Just looked again.This is so funny I'm gonna have to close my account. The devil isn't being bullied, he is the bullier, the lying deciever.
Def: Not the Bible/God, maybe the Koran/Allah...don't know about it......