in the Bible you know how at the beginning it says "In the beginning God created the Heavens and the Earth?" well I was just thinking if God was creating everything and the Holy Trinity consists of three:Father,Son,and Holy Spirit then where were Jesus and the Holy Spirit when God was creating everything?
The question of where is quite relative--from a certain point of view,
The whole of Creation is regarded by many theologians as the manifestation of the Divine Act between the Three Persons of the Trinity.
The Holy Trinity is how God has revealed Himself to us:
1. as the FATHER, the Creator of all things in Heaven and Earth (or the Spiritual and the Material)
2. as the SON, the Word made Flesh, Begotten not made, one with the Father, the Incarnation of God in human history to save man from sin, and to bridge the gap between God and Man who through the sin of Adam was separated from God's grace
3. as the HOLY SPIRIT, the Eternal Love of the Father and the Son, which has no beginning or end. It is through the Holy Spirit that God's will is revealed to mankind, and has guided the prophets and the Church to spread the Gospel---that God has walked with us, forgiven us our sins and has accepted us not only as servants, but as His adopted sons and daughters.
Remember that it is still the same God, only revealed differently to man. That is what the word "Person" meant in ancient times.
So the question of "where was the Holy Trinity" during Creation would be answered as: PRESENT.
From the beginning of the creative process, the Father who created all things was present. The Son who was the Eternal Word of God was present, in one with the Father through the Infinite Love who is the Holy Spirit who was also present.
The Holy Trinity is the manifestation of God to mankind, and thus it may be agrued that since man has not yet existed at the beginning of time, then the Holy Trinity has not existed yet.
But the problem lies on the difference of actuality (the actualness of Time being created) versus man's intellectual concept of creation (which happened way after the creation event).
Since God has revealed Himself to us through these Three Persons, it is through these precepts that we conceptualize God--as the Creator, the Word made Flesh, and the Eternal Love that continues to guide us as God continues to reveal Himself to us.
And it is through the Holy Trinity that we arte able to perceive that Act of Creation, brought upon the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.
That means man cannot imagine the state of being (among them the actuality of "whereness") of all things at the very moment of creation, but can only put into words or symbols, as his intellect imagines the concept of "creation" to be.
That is why there is a need for man to be guided to learn of such an event, and that is where revelation comes in.
It is through revelation that man is able to imagine an event despite his absence from the actual event. And that is how God has revealed Himself to us throughout human history--as the Holy Trinity.
I hope this metaphysical discourse gave you a shred of light. Of course, you may end up more confused.
But don't worry.
If God wishes it to be revealed unto you, it will. If He wishes otherwise, then there has to be a reason for it.
That's what revelation is.
The Trinity is the central mystery of the Christian faith. As Christians, we assert that the Trinity always has been, and always will be. It is through the Holy Trinity, that creation came into existence.
The Bible begins "In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth. The Earth was without form and void, and darkness was upon the face of the deep; and the Spirit of God was moving over the face of the waters." (Gen. 1:1,2)
In the account of the creation of man, it says, "the Lord... breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and the man became a living soul." (Gen. 2:7) The Greek word that is used for "Spirit" in the new testament is "pneuma," which is the word for breath.
The Gospel of John also begins with an account of creation. "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God; all things were made through him, and without him was not anything made that was made... And the word became flesh and dwelt among us, full of grace and truth; we have beheld his glory, glory as of the only-begotten son from the Father." (John 1:1-3,14) I definetly recommend that you read for yourself the full account of the creation in Genesis and the 1st chapter of John.
The Son and the Holy Spirit have been with God the Father from all eternity. All creation is made by the Father, through Christ Jesus his only-begotten Son. The Holy Spirit is the Life-giver, sanctifier, and guardian. They were active in the first creation, but even more activated in the work of salvation, in which man is born again, receiving new life from God
Based mostly on the Gospel of John, the Church adopted the Nicean Creed in the Fourth century which professes the following: "We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ, the only Son of God, eternally begotten of the Father, God from God, Light from Light, True God from True God, begotten not made, one in being with the Father, through him all things were made. For us men and for our salvation, he came down from heaven... We believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord and giver of life, who proceeds from the Father [and the Son]; with the Father and the Son he is worshiped and glorified; He has spoken through the prophets."
I suggest reading the proclaimations of the first recored ecumenical councils, which expounded on the biblical understanding of the Trinity. Also the Cappadocian Fathers wroted extensively about the Trinity, creation, and the process of salvation (Sts. Gregory of Nyssa, Gregory Nazianzus, and Basil the Great) Sts. Augustine, and Athanasius were also very outspoken on matters of the Trinity and the divinity of Christ.
Good question about 'He' and 'he'. I've always just assumed that using a capital letter is a way some people show reverence to God, but that it's not essential - we can show reverence in many other ways too. If other people have more information I'd be interested to know too.
I know that when you get the word LORD capitalised in the Old Testament that it refers to a particular Hebrew name for God - Jehovah/Yahweh, depending on how you read the Hebrew.
When the Old Testament referers to 'God' that's usually a translation of the Hebrew 'Elohim', which is the one I referred to in the email about Genesis.
Other interesting names fo God are 'El Olam', the Everlasting God,
'Jehova-shalom', the LORD is peace,
'Jehova-rapha', the LORD who heals,
'Jehova-jireh', the LORD will provide.
But there are a lot more and they're good to know - they tell us more about the character of our Lord. You could search under 'names of God' on a search engine and come up with a lot more than I've just noted down.
Gen 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
Who do you think God was talking to here when he said Us and Our. . . Think about it. They we all in the Beginning.
Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Joh 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.
Joh 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
This scripture refers to Jesus, It says he was in the beginning.and All things were made by him and with him.
After reading your question again, I just realized two other things that might help you.
First, at the ascension, Christ commissions the Apostles to go out into the world "baptizing them in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit." He does NOT say the "names," but he revealed that God himself exists as one entity. He contains in his very essence three distinct persons, but remains one God.
Second, in the beginning, the first account of creation is portayed as follows. "Then God said, 'let us make man in our image, after our likeness...'" (Gen 1:26) God, who is one, refers to himself in the plural (God is one: see James 2:19).
All this goes into understanding the infinite mystery that is the Trinity.
God always consists of 3 - Father, son, and Holy Ghost or Spirit - Jesus took on the physical to become the 'Son of Man' and was still the 'Son of God' at the same time - the 3 were and always will make up the One (God) - so the 3 were there at creation - this is my understanding, I'm no expert - remember He tells us 'My ways are not your ways', 'My thoughts are not your thoughts' - He also tells us, He knew our name before we were ever formed in the womb - many things will become clearer when we get to Heaven...Hope this helps, here's an excellent Christmas Video if you'd like to enjoy:
Merry Christmas !!
In the first chapters of Genesis God's name is written as plural in the Hebrew. So he refers to himself as 'we' and 'us' and the Bible refers to him as God(s). This is seen to refer to the fact that the whole of the Trinity was there, working together on the creation.
'The Spirit of God was moving over the water' - there's the Holy Spirit for you.
'Through Him [Jesus] all things were made' - that's a New Testament reference which explains that Jesus was essential to the creation too.
It's pretty amazing, isn't it?
ok thank you guys now I have one more question in the Bible you know how it refers to God in different ways? like the creator,master Lord,etc. well I know that the Bible doesn't have any mistakes but if all of Gods names are capitalized then how come in the different Bibles I've'e read it has 'he' with a lower case h instead of a capital h cause it is referring to God still so how come?
ok thank you rayoflight that cleared it up for me
God is the Holy Trinity. they're all in one.