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I've heard that Obama is Christian, but I heard that he's Muslim, too. I heard a part of an interview with him and he said "...because of my Muslim faith. I mean, my Christian faith..." What's he trying to pull here??
"I heard the exact part of an interview with him on the radio. It wasn't in referrence to accusations or anything."
They must have only played part of the clip:
"STEPHANOPOULOS: You mention your Christian faith. Yesterday you took off after the Republicans for suggesting you have Muslim connections.
Just a few minutes ago, Rick Davis, John McCain's campaign manager, said they've never done that. This is a false and cynical attempt to play victim.
OBAMA: You know what? I mean, these guys love to throw a rock and hide their hand. The...
STEPHANOPOULOS: The McCain campaign has never suggested you have Muslim connections.
OBAMA: No, no, no. But the -- I don't think that when you look at what is being promulgated on Fox News, let's say, and Republican commentators who are closely allied to these folks...
STEPHANOPOULOS: But John McCain said that's wrong.
OBAMA: Now, well, look. Listen. You and I both know that the minute that Governor Palin was forced to talk about her daughter, I immediately said that's off limits. And...
STEPHANOPOULOS: But John McCain said the same thing about questioning your faith.
OBAMA: And what was the first thing the McCain's campaign went out and did? They said, look, these liberal blogs that support Obama are out there attacking Governor Palin.
Let's not play games. What I was suggesting -- you're absolutely right that John McCain has not talked about my Muslim faith. And you're absolutely right that that has not come...
STEPHANOPOULOS: Christian faith.
OBAMA:... my Christian faith. Well, what I'm saying is that he hasn't suggested...
STEPHANOPOULOS: Has connections, right.
OBAMA:... that I'm a Muslim. And I think that his campaign's upper echelons have not, either.
What I think is fair to say is that, coming out of the Republican camp, there have been efforts to suggest that perhaps I'm not who I say I am when it comes to my faith -- something which I find deeply offensive, and that has been going on for a pretty long time. "
"OK whoop-de-do he chose his own faith, and that just so happened to be christianity, but why then is he having trouble remembering if that really is his faith? That's the part I don't get, they are two completely different religions... are they not?"
He was responding the suggestion that McCain insinuated he was a Muslim. He explained that he didn't think McCain's organization was putting out this misinformation, but that elements in the Republican party were, and mixed up the words in the process. He wasn't raised in religion, so it's not as if there's a conspiracy.
The real question is, what difference would it make? The president shouldn't be legislating his religious beliefs either way. You guys are acting as if it's somehow OK for someone with your religion to be in a position of power, yet improper for anyone who holds different beliefs.
"All have sinned and come short of the glory of God." Of course, having extra-marital affairs DOES NOT mean that McCain is not a Christian. I'm trying to get at why you would question one Christian's (Obama's in this case) profession of faith and yet accept another's.
Maybe I'm missing the point. When did Obama "forget" or "hesitate" in stating he's a Christian?
As for his name "sounding" Muslim: One of the most faithful, even heroic, Christian I know is named Hussein and lives in the Middle East. Your idea that a name sounds one way or another implies that a person does inherit his faith, which goes back to my point that Barack Obama chose his faith as did Peter and Paul.
I heard the exact part of an interview with him on the radio. It wasn't in referrence to accusations or anything. He was trying to talk about his faith and how faith issues may affect the election or something along those lines, and he said "my Muslim faith..." and then corrected himself with "my Chirstian faith." It just confused me and made me wonder. I'm not saying I believe one candidate's profession of faith and not the other's. Just saying that it was odd that Obama had said that... I'm really not trying to make a big deal out of it. Just wondering if anyone else thought it was odd that he said that, even if it was by mistake.
The "difference" that it makes is the the question of whether he is a Muslim is one that the swiftboaters keep throwing out there because they know that it feeds the doubt and paranoia of people can't admit to themselves that the idea of a "black" man as president pushes every racist button they have.
Barrack Obama is a Christian. He didn't inherit his faith, he chose it. He isn't a culturally minimalist Christian he came to it as an adult. He claimed it for himself by the grace of God. Those of you who are Christians defame the Holy Spirit when you spread the malicious smear that you know feeds the fears of others.
Okay, proverbs423, what evidence to you have of anyone's faith, or lack thereof? Is McCain a Christian? All I've ever hear him say about his faith is the story about the prison guard in Viet Nam drawing a cross in the dirt of the prison courtyard. By his own admission he has had many extra-marital affairs. Does that effect your assessment of the legitimacy of his belief, or do you take his word for it?
Why do you say that Obama doesn't know what he believes? He's told us what he believes.
carjon011208, that's exactly what I meant. If he is a Christian, why would he forget, even for a split second? But I can also understand if it was just a mistake, and that he accidentally said that.
camppapa, just because McCain apparently had extra-marital affairs doesn't mean he's not a Christian. Everyone is capable of making mistakes, whether they're Christian or not. I don't take McCain's word for it. I take his current actions for it.
Ok, so it was just a weird way of saying that McCain hasn't referred to him being Muslim. When I heard "my Muslim faith" it made it sound like Obama had said that he was Muslim and then realized what he had said. I realize that we shouldn't vote for president based upon their religious beliefs, I was simply wondering what was up with that statement. Thank you for clearing that up :]
Well, I wish I had heard that, or better yet I wish I had seen it. It make me think of the time the Secretary Rice referred to Pres. Bush as "my husband" and then corrected herself and said "the president". The interesting thing is that she's never been married, so where did "my husband" come from. People are weird aren't we. I'm glad no one records my every public word.
I think, before you write something or ask a question, atleast look it up and try to get the full story.
What exactly are YOU 'trying to pull?"
THIS is the interview. That's NOT AT ALL what he meant. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVn59TC2QqM
loshmo, you're right. But first it may be that he doesn't know what religion he is, and then it's "I don't know if I want to lower taxes," or "I don't know what to do about the war." etc. I just want to know what going on. I'm not trying to spread anything.
OK whoop-de-do he chose his own faith, and that just so happened to be christianity, but why then is he having trouble remembering if that really is his faith? That's the part I don't get, they are two completely different religions... are they not?
His father was originally a Christian, then a Muslim, and later an atheist. Barack was raised without religion but later converted to Christianity as a young adult.
Obama is Christian and goes to the United Trinity church. His Middle name sounds Muslum. People say that he's Muslum, but, I'm not sure what he's trying to pull.
"I am voting for the man who know what he wants and knows who he is"
yeah mccain knows he's (mccain himself) an outright liar. what a turnoff
"I am voting for the man who know what he wants and knows who he is"
yeah mccain knows he's an outright liar. what a turnoff
Why? His religion is his own personal buisness. All you should really care about is what he's going to do for your country.
I wouldn't want a President who doesn't even know what he believes.
What difference does it make?