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this is for all the Israelies out there. What do you think of Obama? Thanks
After watching the Obama speech today, I have some Random thoughts:
He stated previously that he was not present at any of these inflammatory sermons, yet today said 'I was'.
Previously stated he wasn't aware Rev Wright was 'controversial', yet months ago the reason he gave for canceling Rev Wright to give the prayer at his entering the race announcement was 'some of his sermons are kind of rough'.
His wife is middle-aged, yet she states 'now is the first time I have been proud of America in my lifetime' (not exact words but close).
it is common for people to judge people by 'the friends they keep'
I find many of Rev Wright's views frightening for many reasons.
it seemed to me he was saying in the overall tone of the message - whites are racist / African-Americans are not.
he seemed to equate what Rev Wright said with what Geraldine Farraro said.
he remembered what his Grandmother's views were from childhood, yet not more recent views of Rev Wright.
seems to me if you genuinely believe for 20 years he did not notice / figure out what was coming from that pulpit - how can one come to the conclusion as President he would have the ability and awareness to recognize bad judgement, execute due diligence, and be able to accutely discern matters - be an effective Leader of the Country.
He is selling himself as very different from Rev Wright, he refuses to totally separate himself.
Again, these are just Random thoughts I had which I think merits 'food for thought'.
First of all, Obama has voted consistenly to provide aid to Israel. If you would like to see his voting record on Israel, please go here:
Note that Obama's position has been noticed by many Jewish leaders and that he has never disagreed with Clinton or even the Republicans on the issue of American support for Israel.
Second, the fact that Obama is willing to negotiate with the Iranian government does not mean he plans to abandon Israel. Note that Iran has never insisted on an American change in policy toward Israel before being willing to negotiate with us. Iran and Israel themselves have had occasional low profile talks in recent history
Third, Obama's ties to Louis Farrakhan, the Nation of Islam, or to Islam in general have been proven to be grossly exaggerated, or in most cases, completely fabricated. He is not "in the Muslims' pocket" nor does he harbor a secret desire to work against Israel's existence. People said Clinton would abandon Israel, and he proved to be more supportive of Israel than his predecessors.
I am not sure about obama's opinions regarding israel. I am worried about his pastor's opinions about jews in general. he is a supporter of farrakhan and actually visited libya's gaddafi with farrakhan. in the last debate clinton questioned obama about farrakhan's support and obama denounced and rejected it but I think the more important question is why obama continues his membership in a church where the pastor supports farrakhan and the pastor's magazine gave farrakhan the Lifetime Achievement "Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright, Jr. Trumpet" award. true, obama did not participate in these actions and I know that many people do not agree with everything their pastor believes but I do have concerns, deep concerns, regarding someone that would continue to have an active membership in a church where the pastor seems to have such strong beliefs, if those beliefs were not close to your own. and I am currently an obama supporter and jewish.
I believe that obama will not be the greatest choice for Israel. If he is elected then we (Israel) will face many hardships as obama (or his advisors) are against Israel's existance. That leaves us in a tough situation, considering the U.S. is our biggest supporter. Out of the democrats, Hillary is a better choice because she (and her husband, as we saw when he was president) are Israel supporters and although she may not be the greatest of people, Israel would be better off with her. But, of course, this does not include the republican party (Mccain) which I believe is a better choice. I just wish Romney was still in the race...
This is my opinion as an Israeli living in California (and yes, I am a right wing independant) but sadly, I could not see my thoughts actually happening...
semi1900 thanks for your views. actually, I agree with your statements. I was stating my problem with obama's pastor's ties to farrakhan and obama's active membership in a church where the senior pastor has these views. I also stated that I am an obama supporter. it is just questionable. I do not think obama is in the pocket of muslims just as I do not believe that all muslims want to destroy israel. I would welcome a president who is able to negotiate with every nation. our current president has failed to do this and we are not a popular country. thanks again for your thoughtful answer.
it is common for people to judge people by 'the friends they keep' ... now what does this tell you? you-are just like your friends otherwise you would not associate with them ...
you decide people...
Obama is our next president, not that I want that...I won't vote but from the way things look I just a strong feeling about it. He has what hilary does not, He is an outstanding speaker