Do you think that we should still obey the 10 commanments? And if so, why? I will reply to it after you do .
*** Philosophically speaking, when you look at politics or politis, the laws are derived from the Bible. ***
Our laws have nothing to do with the ten commandments. There are only two commandments that coincide with civil law. Murder and theft. You could also say the 'do not bear false witness' also, but that is only if you are under oath. There are no laws to stop people from lying otherwise. And how often are people under oath?
Do we have laws that force us to revere god and not make false idols or take his name in vain?
Do we have laws that force us to obey the sabbath? Do we have laws that force us to honor our parents? Do we have laws that punish adulterers? Do we have laws that punish us for coveting you neighbors wife or possesions?
So no, our society has nothing to do with the 10 commandments. It means something to some individuals, but not our laws.
The whole idea of needing to live by a set of archaic rules written by superstitious men 4000 years ago is just silly.
We certainly don't need them to determine what is right and wrong.
"The whole idea of needing to live by a set of archaic rules written by superstitious men 4000 years ago is just silly. "
As a child of God, I do not intend to argue only to state bare facts. The commandments were not "written by superstitious men 4000 years ago".
If you study the bible you will realize this mere fact that the commandments were given by God to Moses. They were not written by men 4000 years ago.
If anything, man had changed and modify these laws to suit our wants as you have clearly stated, Mr. jimahl, "There are only two commandments that coincide with civil law. Murder and theft.".
To conclude, we have changes and modifications for OUR own purposes, not the will of God that is why our society has lost sense of the reason why we should obey the ten commandments. We are all to blame.
This is my opinion, as directed by the Holy Spirit.
I agree with "music" a lot!
Philosophically speaking, when you look at politics or politis, the laws are derived from the Bible. These are what shape our society. However, overtime people have lost sense of these values and these laws.
God created these laws to guide as to do what is right. Sometimes we make mistakes, we sin and no one is perfect. Even so, when we ask for forgiveness and continue to obey the commandments, they no longer seem like commandments but rather as values we believe in.
Obeying the commandments is more like something I want to do because as a child of God, I want to always follow God and be with him, always. The commandments are very helpful guideline in following my father and seeing the truth that He wants us all to see.
thank you all for your answers on the topic , but this is the real answer. the 10 commanments is just 10 of about 400 laws that was applyed to the nation of israel and all those put together was call the mosaic law. but after jusus came and died for our sins that law was done away with (ephesians 2:15) and now we are under grace not the law anymore(ephesians 2:8--10) and also all those commanments was broken down into just 2 commanments (matthew 22:35--40) so the answer to the question is NO, the 10 commanments do not aply to us today. but I must say that the principles of them still do , things like do not kill or lie... if anyone need more info on this topic or some other topic please send me fun mail...
youthaacg, since I don't believe in your mythology, your post is meaningless. There is no god, so they must have been written by men. And men back then were definately superstitious. Especially men who would claim you would be punished by the big guy in the sky if you didn't obey them. My point still stands. Our laws have nothing to do with the ten commandments. And that is a good thing. We need reality when creating laws, not fantasy.
By the way, this same god of yours also said that it is ok to stone to death an adulterer, or to kill homosexuals, and many other such attrocities. If society has veered from the teachings of the bible, that can't possibly be a bad thing.
I obey my rules & the ones that keep me out of jail. I answer to no one but me . To live life by 10 laws that are not unacceptable but its the faith that if you don't your going to hell burn & I don't feel that I should waste precious time worrying about whether I'm being judged or if this is not good or if this is too evil much easier to just LIVE.. Now I'm an agnostic which means I don't not believe I keep an open mind until I have enough evidence and even then I wouldn't play by some omnipotent beings set rules.
Well as far as a list of rules goes (and this is your interpretation of which list, theres more than 10 and whether you're look at exodus 20, exodus 34 or Deuteronomy), it is a little convoluted. 3 of the 10 are going on about the same thing (a little self absorbed as far as Im concerned). Only the most orthodox Jews still follow the sabbath thing. I wonder if most people even know what they are, let alone still follow them. The do not murder and the steal are probably good things to follow.
I don't care about the commandments at all. I, of course, try not to do anything that's illegal where I live because I don't care much for having trouble with the police, but besides that, I answer to me and don't think I need some rules written in an ancient book people claim is from some god. And yes, with many things, my 'rules for myself' are different from those commandments - don't think they'd permit open relationships for example.
there is some commandments I have trouble with like going to church every sabbath day but the ones that are right are good like dont cheat on your wife dont lie, steal, and respect your parents, dont kill, dont bear false wittness dont commit adultry, and theres others but I cant remember them but those are all good I wouldnt understand why they wouldnt be good.
you try to follow some of the commandments because they just make you a better person in general, you're eventually going to break one of two of those in different ocations it desn't mean you should stop trying to follow them, but there are some that are just for a religious act and don't really nean anything, following them won't make you any better.
I always thought of the 10 commandments to be more of a to-do list.. I have broken 6 out of the 10. The last 4 either have no bearing on my life or I have chosen not to undertake them. I am a good person I help others in need when I can, if the good deeds are not enough to satisfy the Christian God then we can talk it over in Summerland.
I believe you can't approach the ten commandments as the law. Because of the resurrection of Christ, we are no longer uner the law but the promise. So approach it as the promise that if you follow the leadership of the Holy Spirit, He promises you- you wont steal, kill, covet what your neighbor has, ect...
MIGHTYVENUS::: thank you for responding to my question about the commanments... I see that you picked out like you said, the good ones to keep. but do you know that if you break one or fail to live up to anyone of them that you are guilty of breaking them all??? so then what now???
Well, 6 of them are kind of stupid, and a 7th is really between a husband and wife as to whether or not they vow fidelity to eachother. Only 3 of them actually make universal sense. I guess I'd say it makes sense to 'obey' those 3 or 4 and ignore the rest.
You should try your best to obey them, all of them. the worst that could happen is they make you a better person. what a shame that would be. lol
Well sence I don't beleive that god exists hy foollow thses made up rules? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeSSwKffj9o