I keep hearing people saying globalwarming isnt real but at first I heard it was so is it?
The Gore movie: A British judge set out nine alleged errors in the film in which statements were made that were not supported by the current mainstream scientific consensus.
ERROR: Mr Gore asserted that a sea-level rise of up to 20 feet would be caused by melting of either West Antarctica or Greenland 'in the near future'.
The judge said: 'This is distinctly alarmist and part of Mr Gore's 'wake-up call'.
It was common ground that if Greenland melted it would release this amount of water - 'but only after, and over, millennia.'
ERROR: The film had also asserted that low-lying inhabited Pacific atolls 'are being inundated because of anthropogenic global warming' - but there was no evidence of any evacuation having yet happened.
ERROR: The documentary had also spoken of global warming 'shutting down the Ocean Conveyor' - the process by which the Gulf Stream is carried over the North Atlantic to western Europe.
The judge said that, according to the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), it was 'very unlikely' that the Ocean Conveyor, also known as the Meridional Overturning Circulation, would shut down in the future, though it might slow down.
ERROR: Mr Gore had also asserted - by ridiculing the opposite view - that two graphs, one plotting a rise in C02 and the other the rise in temperature over a period of 650,000 years, showed 'an exact fit'.
The judge said that, although there was general scientific agreement that there was a connection, 'the two graphs do not establish what Mr Gore asserts'.
ERROR: Mr Gore had asserted that the disappearance of snow on Mt Kilimanjaro was expressly attributable to global warming. The judge said this had 'specifically impressed' the Environment Secretary David Miliband.
But the scientific consensus was that it cannot be established that the recession of snows on Mt Kilimanjaro is mainly attributable to human-induced climate change.
ERROR: The drying up of Lake Chad was used in the film as a prime example of a catastrophic result of global warming, said the judge.
'However, it is generally accepted that the evidence remains insufficient to establish such an attribution.
'It is apparently considered to be far more likely to result from other factors, such as population increase and over-grazing, and regional climate variability.'
ERROR: Mr Gore ascribes Hurricane Katrina and the consequent devastation in New Orleans to global warming, but there was 'insufficient evidence to show that'.
ERROR: MR Gore had also referred to a new scientific study showing that, for the first time, polar bears were being found that had actually drowned 'swimming long distances - up to 60 miles - to find the ice'.
The judge said: 'The only scientific study that either side before me can find is one which indicates that four polar bears have recently been found drowned because of a storm.'
That was not to say there might not in future be drowning-related deaths of bears if the trend of regression of pack ice continued - 'but it plainly does not support Mr Gore's description'.
ERROR: Mr Gore said in the film that coral reefs all over the world were bleaching because of global warming and other factors.
The judge said the IPCC had reported that, if temperatures were to rise by 1-3 degrees centigrade, there would be increased coral bleaching and mortality, unless the coral could adapt.
But separating the impacts of stresses due to climate change from other stresses, such as over-fishing, and pollution was difficult.
A Government spokesperson said it was not proposing to make any further comment on the case at present.
I am very, very concerned that the majority of people who replied have been speaking against the majority of scientists and scientific evidence. They quote scientists, judges and local weather conditions etc. which indicate that global warming is not happening/is no big deal, as though that solves the problem - a few scientists disagree with global warming so it isn't happening!
I'm afraid they are wrong. You need to check out what most scientists are saying. The people who should know are the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC). They were set up in 1988 to evaluate the risk of climate change caused by human activity. They are scientists from the United Nations and the World Meterological Association, and the governments of the world asked them to give a fair picture of what was actually happening.
At first, they weren't sure that Golbal Warming was real, or if it was caused by human activity. At least some of them hoped to prove it wasn't real, or wasn't a problem, so they weren't just out to scare us! But now they themeselves are really scared. What they have found out is worrying them so much that they constantly report to the governments that things are worse than they ever feared. President Bush and his government have recognised global warming and the fact that human behaviour has an impact on it. There was no choice, with the amount of scientific eveidence they were given.
So why do some people still 'stick their head in the sand'? Some of them have reasons to keep things the way they are - they own factories or sell cars or fuel which make lots of pollution. Some of them just don't like to admit they were wrong - but the IPPC scientists have been big enough to admit that they got things wrong at first, so why can't the others? Some of them don't want to change their cosy lifestyles. Maybe some of them will be dead in the next 20 years anyway, and they don't seem to care what happens to their grandchildren! It all seems to be 'head in the sand' stuff.
And there's also some kind of conspiracy theory thing going here, but it's a right wing one instead of a left wing one. You know the usual ones - the moon landings were faked, the establishment killed Kennedy, the New World Order (or whoever they are) is secretly in charge. Once someone believes somthing like that, every piece of evidence gets twisted to fit what they believe. Somehow the right wing global warming deniers have got into this way of thinking, and anything I say or anyone else can say, however well-informed, will get twisted to prove we are wrong and the deniers are right.
All I can say is, don't listen to individuals on this (even me) - listen to the big groups of scientists who have made it their lifes' work to find out if global warming is real.
A cardinal in the Catholic Church says the hysteria over man-made climate change is akin to a “new religion” and a symptom of “pagan emptiness.”
Cardinal George Pell of Sydney, Australia, has been the target of criticism in his country for expressing doubts about the validity of man-made global warming.
In an interview that appeared in The Catholic World Report, he said: “Right now, the mass media, politicians, many church figures, and the public generally seem to have embraced even the wilder claims about man-made climate change as if they constituted a new religion.
“These days, for any public figure to question the basis of what amounts to green fundamentalist faith is tantamount to heresy.”
Cardinal Pell called long-term weather forecasting “notoriously imprecise,” and pointed to predictions in the 1970s that the planet was about to enter a new ice age because of global cooling.
He said some of the more “hysterical and extreme” claims about impending climate change “appear symptomatic of a pagan emptiness, of a Western fear when confronted by the immense and basically uncontrollable forces of nature…
“It’s almost as though people without religion, who don’t belong to any of the great religious traditions, have got to be frightened of something. Perhaps they’re looking for a cause that is almost a substitute for religion.”
As for Al Gore’s message of doom about climate change, Cardinal Pell noted that there are “significant errors” in his film “An Inconvenient Truth,” and added: “Few of us have the scientific knowledge to question the wild claims Gore has made — other than some grains of common sense.”
lillaura is correct. Dr. Claude Allegre was one of the first scientist to sound the global warming alarm more than 20 years ago. In 2006 he changed his mind about it, due to more knowledge gained over the last 20 years. Allegre found that there was a severe lack of evidence to establish any manmade catastrophic global climate change.
In fact, after a plethora of studies and tests on global warming, the wealth of data proves just the opposite—that the majority of climate change is a natural occurrence.
Mathematician & engineer Dr. David Evans, who did carbon accounting for the Australian Government, recently detailed his conversion to a skeptic. “I devoted six years to carbon accounting, building models for the Australian government to estimate carbon emissions from land use change and forestry. When I started that job in 1999 the evidence that carbon emissions caused global warming seemed pretty conclusive, but since then new evidence has weakened the case that carbon emissions are the main cause. I am now skeptical..."
Not to mention that the earth has been warming since the peak of the last ice age. Remember in school when they told you that most of North America and Europe were covered with glaciers, that have been retreated for thousands of years?
Politicians who want to control what kind of car you drive, what kind of clothes you wear, what kind of house you live in, what kind of food you eat etc, are working very hard to convince you that global warming is real. More and more, scientists are coming to a different conclusion.
"You need to check out what most scientists are saying."
According to a recent US Senate report, "Less than half of all published scientists endorse Global Warming theory" and that a " comprehensive survey of published climate research reveals changing viewpoints.
“First, temperature changes, as well as rates of temperature changes (both increase and decrease) of magnitudes similar to that reported by IPCC to have occurred since the Industrial revolution (about 0.8C in 150 years or even 0.4C in the last 35 years) have occurred in Earth's climatic history. There's nothing special about the recent rise!”
Dr. Nathan Paldor - Professor of Dynamical Meteorology and Physical Oceanography at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, who has authored almost 70 peer-reviewed studies and won several awards.
In North Carolina, they have been experiencing long-term cooling. From 1844 - 2000 temperatures in NC decreased about 0.5 degrees Centigrade.
2/18/08: A new report from the U.S. National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) that reveal that almost all the allegedly “lost” ice has come back. A NOAA report shows that ice levels which had shrunk from 5 million square miles in January 2007 to just 1.5 million square miles in October, are almost back to their original levels.
Moreover, a Feb. 18 report in the London Daily Express showed that there is nearly a third more ice in Antarctica than usual.
The Daily express recalls the photograph of polar bears clinging on to a melting iceberg which has been widely hailed as proof of the need to fight climate change and has been used by former Vice President Al Gore during his "Inconvenient Truth" lectures about mankind’s alleged impact on the global climate. Gore fails to mention that the photograph was taken in the month of August when melting is normal. Or that the polar bear population has soared in recent years.
At first, scientists thought that it was definite, humans are causing global warming. But as more and more scientists get involved, they are finding very different information. As it turns out, there is no consensus among the scientific community. For instance, solar activity more accurately correlates with the warming of the earths atmosphere. As time goes on, this debate keeps heating up as more and more scientists put their 2 cents in and as more and more studies are done.
In my opinion, Global Warming is a natural cycle that our earth is going through (just as it has in the past), and not caused by human activity.
Senate report released 12/20/07:
Over 400 prominent scientists from more than two dozen countries recently voiced significant objections to major aspects of the so-called "consensus" on man-made global warming. These scientists, many of whom are current and former participants in the UN IPCC (Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change), criticized the climate claims made by the UN IPCC and former Vice President Al Gore.
The new report issued by the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee's office details the views of the scientists, the overwhelming majority of whom spoke out in 2007.
See what comes up when you google "coconuts in Wyoming" and have a good laugh. We have had a great winter, that like 15 years ago when there was lots of snow and cold down to -45F! The last 10 winters have been milder.
As above there have been a lot of ERRORS trying to scare us!
If we are to micromanage all of the pollution emitting sources in the world, and relate them to the earth that is the size of a lawn, it would be like pulling up one blade of grass.
Nonsense. Over time the earth has been colder and warmer, not necessarily in that order.
We are still young as a years goes and have very little info as to the trend of the earth. Some say we are going through and normal stage other say global warming caused by us. No one can say for sure at this time but there sure isn't any harm in taking an interest in making the world better. So if we all do what we can..kind of erring on the side of caution at this point then we can say we did what we could for the future.
4/25/08: NPR has an interesting article on global warming... or cooling? The Mystery of Global Warming's Missing Heat. James Hansen and Al Gore must be so disappointed. NASA is spending around 20 million dollars a year to deploy and monitor 3000 robot buoys around the worlds oceans and the data coming in doesn't support their theory on global warming, in fact it turns out the world has cooled slightly in the last five years.
global warming is merely a natural phase. the earth has had hot and cold period over time. THIS IS NO DIFFERENT. we are trying to interfere and fix things, but try and tell me how we, minuscule beings, are going to change the climate of an entire planet. how we are going to effect that enormous matter that is the sun. we can't ! its nature ! stop trying to interfere before we make it even worse is my opinion.
this is a great video. it was produced by a high school science teacher and the beauty of it is that you don't have to believe one way or another about global warming.
watch it and see what I mean.
NOAA: Coolest Winter Since 2001 for U.S., Globe
March 13, 2008
The average temperature across both the contiguous U.S. and the globe during climatological winter (December 2007-February 2008) was the coolest since 2001, according to scientists at NOAA’s National Climatic Data Center
Global warming is very real. If you want to learn more about it and what we can do about it, do some research. It's good that you are wanting to know more about the world that we live in. I for one would like it to be just as nice for my great grandchildren as it is for us.
No, I dont think global warming is real. If Al gore is so worried about it, and its effects on the earth, he needs to stop taking those jets across the world. "polluting the air". I live in a very hot part of the US, and this is as cold as its ever been in fall. ...
But for an alternative Christian view, I recommend a good Bible Study from Britain's 'The Evangelical Alliance Relief Fund' (which is snappily known as Tearfund).
i believe global warming is real, texaskimmie is right. and plus if u dont believe it, think about this years winter. it was pretty warm in dec. and was snowing in april... this year might be worse. but i guess we'll find out soon
NO, IT IS MOST CERTAINLY NOT REAL!! These people don't have there facts straight. There was weather like this fifty years ago!! global warming is a big HOAX. duh... do better research!
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It's called Climate Change, not Global Warming. Science is difficult. It does not provide the easy answers we would like it to.
Some scientists are starting to believe that global warming is a natural process and not related to human carelessness at all!
Note: Global Warming 'experts' predicted record-setting Hurricane Seasons in '06 and '07...didn't happen.
Founder of the Weather Channel weighs in:
How could you fake global warming?
Of course its real.