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hi I have a question how will we know when jezus will come
Yes, you are right. Also, not only was the temple was destroyed for the Punishment of the Jews but it also was needed to be destroyed because it was no longer needed. If it were not destroyed we would be still practicing the same practises as the old testament age such as the Jews today. It is also why the sheet hung separating the Holy of Holys was torn from top to bottom showing that only God could have done this and that men can now come boldly to God threw prayer rather then talking to him threw a priest.
But Look at Matthew 24:40-41.
Two men will be in a field; one will be taken and the other left. What usually happens during a war. Some are take prisoner some are killed on the spot. If this were referring to a rapture Psalm 110:1 would not make any sense.
It also says in Luke 21:14,
They will deliver you to synagogues and prisons, and you will be bought before kings and governors, all on account of my name. This will result in your being witnesses to them. But make up your mind not to worry before hand how you will defend yourselves. For I will give you words of wisdom that none of your adversaries will be able to resist or contradict.
In the book of acts in speaks about the days of there early church. It often speaks about the apostles being brought before kings and governors, all on account of Jesus name. It also speaks about the heavens opening up and Jesus standing at the right hand of God the Father.
What I am trying to prove is that these thing that took place had happened in the life time of the disciples.
As for Jesus coming in Matthew, Mark, and Luke. I don't say anything about him gathering his people. But, It does say, "At that time men will see the Son of Man coming in the clouds with great power and glory. I believe this is when Jesus is declaring judgement of Jerusalem and at that time the people of Jerusalem were going to know it.
"The books of scripture tell us in many places of Jesus' imminent return."
Yeah, that's because the guys who wrote it thought it would be imminent. Obviously, it wasn't.
"We live in very interesting times as "religious" people have tried to pinpoint the hour of His return and failed. "
It makes one wonder why they keep trying. Oh yeah that's right...it's a lucrative business.
" Put another way He will come when we don't expect."
Every generation has expected the return of Jesus. Every single one.
"The times we live in are some of the worst, globally speaking, ever seen. There is so much war, famine, death from disease, lawlessness, evil being called good, a great falling away (people turning away from relationship with Christ) a general malcontent amongst people, searching for self pleasure. "
You could make that statement about any period in human history. I would argue the Fourteenth Century was much, much worse than the time we live in now: More war, more disease, more famine, more lawlessness, and many people turning away from religion...
"Politically speaking, the EU is now, because of the recent financial crisis, trying to form a single monetary system as well as a political one. This is setting the stage for a unilateral one world system."
No, it isn't. What's being done in Europe isn't going to be repeated anywhere else, at least not in our life time. But more important than that, Europe is running into stumbling block after stumbling block on its road to monetary and political unification. Many people hate it, and are fighting it, with varied success.
"Jesus said that, this world will unite under anti-christ."
Where does Jesus talk about the anti-Christ?
matt18091:
I've read Josephus' account of the siege of Jerusalem and the destruction of the temple by the Romans in 70 AD. Many consider it unreliable, as with much of Josephus' writings. Anyway, the Book of Revelations is also describing these events, albeit allegorically. References to the "Mother of Harlots", the "Beast", etc. are references to religious and political authorities in Judea and Rome which persecuted the early Church, and the resulting wrath of God being poured out as judgment in the form of the temple's destruction, possibly even the eventual fall of the Roman Empire, and the dominion of the Church on earth. Revelations talks about events in the 1st century AD, possibly a couple centuries later...but that's it.
Anyway, some Christians believe, as you say, that the destruction of the temple was punishment for rejecting the messiah and God's official break with the Jewish people, being replaced by the Church. This school of thought believes that all of Jesus' Gospel predictions were fulfilled, and that the Church is God's agent from now on, not Israel. Another school of thought is that Jesus was also making predictions about events that would signal the end times, and his return. He talks in those passages about the return of the "Son of Man". In all the passages you listed, Jesus implies he will return during the disciples' lifetimes. In Mark 13, read verse 30. In Matthew 24, read verse 34. And in Luke 21, read verse 32. Jesus is obviously speaking about the generation that is experiencing the temple's destruction and the other events surrounding it.
Prophecy is a subject that very few people understand well enough to comment on. To the non-believer scripture says,"it is foolishness to those who are perishing". The books of scripture tell us in many places of Jesus' imminent return. As to when, only the Father knows. We are told howerver that we will know the times and the season. "As in the days of Noah, so shall the second coming of Lord be." Also, Jesus has said before His ascention," I go to prepare a place for you that there you will be with me." We live in very interesting times as "religious" people have tried to pinpoint the hour of His return and failed. We, the followers of Christ, are told to be ready for He will, "come as a thief in the night". Put another way He will come when we don't expect. The times we live in are some of the worst, globally speaking, ever seen. There is so much war, famine, death from disease, lawlessness, evil being called good, a great falling away (people turning away from relationship with Christ) a general malcontent amongst people, searching for self pleasure. Politically speaking, the EU is now, because of the recent financial crisis, trying to form a single monetary system as well as a political one. This is setting the stage for a unilateral one world system. People just see it as a "good move" to provide stability in a rather unstable economic and political forum. Jesus said that, this world will unite under anti-christ. Some Christians and non-Christinas don't believe it and well, that's up to them. "As for ME and MY house, we will serve the Lord"
THIS CONTAINS ANSWER TO WHEN JESUS IS WILL RETURN!! READ BELOW!!
Also religionisgood is right.
Jesus doesn't say anything about an anti-Christ or a rapture and the 7 years thing...
It's all BS.
You need to read the Bible for yourself rather then listening to everyone else.
When Jesus returns the word we be over flowing with Christians and as most of you see we are a long way from that.
(Psalm 110:1)
"The LORD said unto my lord, Sit thou at my right hand until I make thine enemies thy footstool."
Jesus is sitting on the throne right now. He will not get up and return to the people until all his enemies are defeated.
Who are his enemies you ask. Well after Jesus death he was sent to hell for three days. While he was in hell he took the keys to hell from Satan.
Satan is now defeated and awaiting to go into eternal punishment. Basically wondering here on earth on parole.
So the only enemies of Christ that are left are the unbelievers.
How do you defeat an enemie of Christ? You witness to them and pray that the will except Gods word into there hearts.
Once the last enemy is won over, who is written in the lambs book of life, then Jesus with get off his throne and return.
Will there be unbelievers still on earth at his return? Yes., and they will receive there punishment in full.
No second chances, no anti-Christ or rapture and no 7 years thing.
We will know when he is here because a loud trumpet blast will be heard and Jesus descending will be recorded on every News station in the world.
If you believe Jesus will still return one day, the Bible is obviously not a good place to find answers about it. The people who wrote the earliest books of the NT believed Jesus would return within their lifetime. Later books, like John, were written as a reaction to disappointment that he did not. And the book of Revelations was written about events that occurred not long after Jesus is said to have lived.
So other than a few vague signs and predictions attributed to Jesus himself, which obviously never came true, there is no Biblical basis for believing in Jesus' return, especially over 2000 years later.
The abomination of desolation is recorded in the Gospels not Revelations. I'm trying to prove that the Gospels are not speaking about the end times. What he is speaking about in the gospels has already happened.
In Luke 21:5-31, Matt 24:1-35, and Mark 13:1-31 he speaks signs of the end of the age. What he is speaking about the end of the old testament practices and the abomination of desolation (punishment of Jerusalem for denying the Christ) NOT THE END OF THE WORD. I'd suggest reading "Josephus". I'm sure you'll like it but also keep Luke 21:5-31, Matt 24:1-35, and Mark 13:1-31 in mind when reading it.
yes he is coming and yes/no hes came once but if you read the Bible it clearly states that he is coming once again to take his children home. and you will know when we all go up there for judgement day, people that didnt accept Him will go to hell and people that did accept Him will go into their forever home with gold streets and a mansion that you wont have to share alll your past animals your own pure white horse, you wont feel anymore pain you can pet lions and tigers and bears and you will NEVER cry and lots more that my hands will cramp before I get done typing
yes he is coming and yes/no hes came once but if you read the Bible it clearly states that he is coming once again to take his children home. and you will know when we all go up there for judgement day, people that didnt accept Him will go to hell and people that did accept Him will go into their forever home with gold streets and a mansion that you wont have to share alll your past animals your own pure white horse, you wont feel anymore pain you can pet lions and tigers and bears and you will NEVER cry and lots more that my hands will cramp before I get done typing
"The people who wrote the earliest books of the NT believed Jesus would return within their lifetime."
religionisgood, that was referring to the abomination of desolation(The destruction of Jerusalem) not the coming of christ. This had already took place 40 years after Jesus died and you can read about it in a book outside of the Bible in "Josephus".
Many people do believe that Jesus was referring to his return but he was not.
If you interested in this message me. I will be happy to explain.
Considering how hard all the fundamentalist christians have been working to protect "Israel" you would think it was soon. Suddenly they are all in love with the jews and Israel. Lol. I guess they think we are too dumb to know that they want us in place so that we can die upon his return and they will go to heaven where they will be able to pet lions and walk on streets of gold, etc. lol. nice story.
"religionisgood, that was referring to the abomination of desolation(The destruction of Jerusalem) not the coming of christ. "
You're referring to the book of Revelations, not the Gospels.
"You can expect someone but you don't know when they show up"
Sneaking up like a thief in the night is hard to do if everyone's expecting said thief :)
The bible says in Matthew 24:36 "No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. I know that does not help much but the book of Daniel will give you a little more answers and so will the book of Matthew. If you are truly seeking the answers.
Not even Jesus knew when the father would send him back. There was however a prophecy in the bible that could be interpreted as shortly after Isreal becoming a nation. But keep in mind Gods concept of a short time is longer then our lifespan.
Well theres different religions that belive different things so im christian so we belive he's already come but died and was reserected but if your jewish you would still be waiting to the savior to come=]
lol hes coming? wow no one knowz when jesus is gunna come and balinwolf is right, only god knows when his son is cumin. and what will happen if he does come what does it mean?
"Every generation has expected the return of Jesus. Every single one."
You can expect someone but you don't know when they show up ;)
He'll be the guy wearing a toga, wandering around barefoot healing lepers and the blind, obsessing about Jewish laws and castration.
how about spelling his name right. jesus
I don't follow religion but didnt he come already?
Only God knows the time but with the condition of the world today, it may be very soon !
When 200 million start to gather for war on Israel, He will be really near.
Jesus already came and then he got locked up in a mental institution.
Easy. He cries out his own name, loudly.
Hello...jew here. We will not cooperate.
he's coming?
