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Banning the confederate flag?

What happened to freedom of expression and freedom of speech so what someone considers the flag racist its a opinion and they may be wrong opinions its called ignorance plain and simple.

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Answer #1

I hate that flag too, for different reasons. Now, it’s simply a mechanism used by uneducated limp-dicxx to piss you off, and you let them do it. Every time someone complains about “That Rebel Flag,” the idiot sticks win.

Burn this into your brain; these people don’t know the root meaning of the 1861-65 CSA flag, anymore than they respect “Old Glory.” I have a suggestion to help you cope with your frustration. First, please don’t compare the CSA’s embem with NAZI Germany’s Swastica. Apples and Oranges dude. OK…sorry. Q. No one around Just you, that flag, matches and lighter fluid. Q. Would you burn it? Yes or No.

For years, I just knew both sides of my family must have fought to preserve our Republic. Last year, I enrolled in a 4000 university-level history elective. The course title “Antebellum and Reconstruction” which raised more curiosity about my familys’ contributions in the war. Curious and nervous I looked using genealogy dot com. Here’s what I found, paternal great-great grandfather joined the 37th Tennessee Cavalry under General John Bell Hood of Texas. Double G gramps didn’t own slaves, he was a modest Blacksmith. In letters he wrote to my g-g-grandmother. He thought President Buchannon was weak and foolish. He and his friends honestly believed, USA central government was denying their freedoms under the Bill of Rights. Maternal findings, they lived in Virginia. My double G’s Confederate brother is called “The Hero of Lookout Mountain” The real nut buster? That Hero’s sister married Robert E Lee, sixteen years before South Carolina succeeded and fired on Fort Sumpter. Oh’ yes, I almost forgot. One of the letters written by paternal double G grampa revealed he hated Jefferson Davis. If you answered YES on that flag burning question. Adolf Hitler burned all pre-Nazi party books, except those written by Germans. Now, I can’t recall any of our fifty states flying the real Confederate States of America, stars and bars in front of any state capitol. Close variations of it, yes. Let’s say for a minute that; the House, Senate, President and Supreme Court of these United States did absolutely ban the Stars and Bars. You are the FBI and US Marshall’s Service. How would you enforce that ban on 300,000.000 US citizens? What would the penalty be for owning one? The Civil War is part of our heritage, Every soldier killed, Union or Confederate was an American Soldier with different dreams. Scholars concur, it was the second birth of our nation. The stars and bars will always be around, just like idiots. Later dude.

Answer #2

“The Civil War is part of our heritage”

Yes, but so is our horrible treatment of Native Americans and U.S. Citizens in WWII, remember the japanese internment camps.

Should we glorify our racist heritage? No and as a southerner, only rednecks and racists fight for the right to fly that flag.

Answer #3

Complaints are not the same thing as a ban.

Can you legally fly the Confederate flag? Yes. Can other legally call you a racist because of it? Yes.

Answer #4

Schools have the right to ban things they feel are disruptive to their students… Some schools ban pink hair…

What has that got to do with anything?

And they were protesting the civil rights movement… they were for segregation… How is that in honor of the movement?

Answer #5

well its clear by jimahi what you said the south clearly wasnt being racist ty for the input flying your flag doesnt represent anything accept your nation and maybe they rose the flag in honor of the civilrights movement

Answer #6

Of course not giving a example or some court case to discuss doesnt help me with this debate. Second what proof do you have it was put their against the civil rights. I will however when bringing debates up try to improve the quality so it doesnt sound like a rant instead of a honest discussion ty for the input

Answer #7

Nothing happened to freedom or expression or speech, people associate the flag with racism because the south was pro slavery and it’s their flag (and I’m sure there are other reasons, I’m not well versed in U.S. history).

Again, I really dont see what the point is to any of your questions, maybe you want to explain? Or perhaps you’re simply ranting?

Answer #8

Schools are not the same as the general public, and they can make up rules that they deem necessary, particularly regarding the way students dress. Do you think a school should allow students to wear swastikas?

Petitioning government to remove a sysmbol of hatred from public display is not the same as banning it. Do the people have no say is what is displayed on public grounds that are paid for and maintained by taxpayer money?

Answer #9

People are trying to get the flag banned from government and private to where its not shown anywhere the real question should have been its wrong to deny equil rights to citizen because of a opinion it may not have been done totally but thats movement of today trying to get rid of it. proof of this debate this proof is not that the confederate flag is banned that theres a movement to ban the confederate flag and this was the discussion how this goes against equility of rights,free speech, and freedom of expression

Answer #10

And I agree with you… it does go agaist free speech, freedom of expression (and I dont know how it really effects equality but sure lets throw that in there too) to ban it…

your original argument was about whether or not the flag was a racist symbol…

like toadaly said, it is legal to fly it, it is also legal for me to think and call someone a racist for flying it… that’s how freedom of speech works…

Answer #11

Ok, lets see, what was going on in the south in 1962. Oh that’s right, the civil rights movement was really picking up steam. And this is when the all white south carolina legislature votes to start flying a symbol of southern slavery on it’s state house. I guess you can believe it was just a coinicidence if you want.

Your webiste link doesn’t work.

Answer #12

point taken aparently you stopped reading at schools part and didnt read what else I wrote

Answer #13

ty for a well thought out response …ty

Answer #14

How about you give an example of a court case?

(and the link does not work by the way)

Answer #15

www.usatoday.com then look up flag banning in tennessee

Answer #16

Look up court cases involving the confederate flag then you know what im talking about

Answer #17

Heres one example of proof check the website out www.usatoday.com/views/nation/2008-08-13-confederate-ban_N_htm

Answer #18

Spot-on Toadaly.

The flag is a symbol of hatred, just like the swastika, but no one has banned it from being displayed. If you are referring to the controversy of it flying over the state house in south carolina, it was removed because of public outrage (although McCain was against its removal). Of course proponents of keeping it there said it was about heritage, not hate. But the problem with that is, they didn’t put it there until the early 60s, and they did it as a direct protest AGAINST the civil rights movement. So tell me, was it put there because of heritage, or hate?