Well I think religious people should be given the opportunity to prove their case. If science is what a lot look toward for explanations then logically religions should apply to science to prove their beliefs. The assumption you cant test god since you cant see god you cant prove he exists. My thought you dont see a murder when you investigate the murder happens so now you have to find proof that a murder happened. So really judging that you have to see something happen in order for it to happen is not true. Evidence left after it happens will prove that it happens so in my view religious people should be able to make a case using science. Dening them that is just wrong and also implying they cant show that something happened that you didnt see happen is possible because theirs evidence it did happen.
Why deny religious people the chance to prove their religion through science?
Why make a argument if I dont see it didnt happen when theres a lot that goes on everyday we dont see but happen?
Make your argument why religion cant be proven through science
Religion is much more personal than science could ever be. Why would you want to entangle the two. You do not prove religion, you simply believe in it.
Proving yourself is easy enough. And how would one do that? By believing in yourself right?
I'm not on any one side of this popular debate but I will say that science is as fundamentally unsolvable as the cause for faith.
Science is never solid and will never complete. Simple mathematics glimpses at this inevitability through math's foundational indefiniteness.
That's the beauty of science, pursuing that intangible theory of everything that's only there in order to truly stimulate the discoverers by telling them it's only the tip of the proverbial iceberg that they've solved. As soon as we discover something more, the number of things that we don't know is doubled. As questions are answered, they only really bring about the possibility to ask more question. It's like fanning the flames of knowledge.
I'm being awful philosophical about this and that's beside my usual self, but I just wanted to share my thoughts with everyone, if only briefly.
No one ever told them they not allowed. They just arnt alowed to use false information and flat out lies to prove it.
""Faith is the EVIDENCE of things NOT SEEN - proof resides in the heart of the believer."" This is what im talking about Faith is not evidence. That is a lie.
sceince isnt about disproving God. Its a process in wich to discover our world with real provable repetable evidence. The fact that God cant stand up to the test is not the fault of science.
No, it literally can't be proven: Any failing test for the existence of a god you can devise can be explained away by claiming that the god influenced the results. And even if that weren't the case, you can't prove a negative, since you can come up with a virtually unlimited set of possible variations on a god or gods.
Of course, if there really is a god, he could no doubt prove his/her/its existence to us, but that assumes it's a cooperative god.
Nobody is denying anyone the opportunity to demonstrate their beliefs are scientifically sound. The problem is that religious beliefs are untestable - any components that were testable become science, and no longer require unquestioning belief. People cling to what's left over as 'religion'.
All these things seem to be assumptions? I'm not the one who is claiming God is beyond human understanding. That's certain religions claiming that. You've also made a broad and general statement. How about being more specific about which religion and whose God you're talking about.
No one has denied them the chance to prove their religion through science... they simply cannot... the belief that something is unproveable makes it beyond science... how do you prove something that someone claims is beyond proof?
I would like to point something out I find odd hear things said like unproveable, cant be tested, all these seem to be assumptions not facts that doesnt help me with my question so please avoid these it cant be proven statements
ok religion is the faith and bravery to belive our god is real but science is mostly seeing/ experimenting then beliving.
Faith is the EVIDENCE of things NOT SEEN - proof resides in the heart of the believer.