how do ghosts touch the fisical world?

Wrong. As I said, science has no problem admitting that something is, as of yet, unexplained.

I had said this”One thing everyone can notice is that as soon as someone speaks against skeptics they make you look as though you are questioning science”. This posy is proof for that statement. Deliberately distorting my words.

I had typed this :

“Just like that child, the skeptics are not looking for the truth. They are looking for an explanation that can explain things away.”

But when religionisgood quoted me he did this :

“are not looking for the truth. They are looking for an explanation that can explain things away”

Why was the first part of my sentence omitted? I was speaking about skeptics not about science. I request you to be honest when you enter into a discussion.

For hundreds of years, people believed the appearance of the sun in the sky had supernatural or divine causes. Eventually, by observing and understanding the natural world, we learned that this is not the case.

No we have not learned that. “Naturalistic explanation” is a tricky term. When a teacher catches a child who has not done his homework, he can give a hundred explanations. If the child is able to give a really good, convincing and rational explanation he has a good chance that the believes him and he can then escape. What then happens is that the truth is lost. Just like that child, the skeptics are not looking for the truth. They are looking for an explanation that can explain things away.

I am not saying anything against science or scientists. Their contribution to humanity is great. I am only speaking about skeptics. One thing everyone can notice is that as soon as someone speaks against skeptics they make you look as though you are questioning science. For example look at this statement “As I said, science has no problem admitting something is unexplained…” Who was speaking against science?

No we have not learned that.

We have, actually.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth’s_rotation

are not looking for the truth. They are looking for an explanation that can explain things away.

Wrong. As I said, science has no problem admitting that something is, as of yet, unexplained. In other words, we don’t need to make up an explanation just for the sake of having one. Your story, for example, is as of yet unexplained. Resorting to superstition to explain something rather than trying to find a rational explanation is not the business of skeptics, or scientists.

Because usually skeptics are not skeptical about their own beliefs

To the contrary, new information or data that becomes available will cause a good skeptic to change opinions, views, or beliefs if they no longer stand up to scrutiny. That’s what science is all about. Religion, at least historically, does not adjust well to the emergence of new information challenging its belief systems.

If we cannot (I.e it is not possible to) have the necessary details to provide a naturalistic explanation how do you know that there is a naturalistic explanation at all?

For hundreds of years, people believed the appearance of the sun in the sky had supernatural or divine causes. Eventually, by observing and understanding the natural world, we learned that this is not the case. Just because we don’t currently have a natural explanation for every single event in the universe, doesn’t mean we have to resort to the supernatural to explain it…finding a “God of the Gaps” as Carl Sagan puts it. One can figure out a million rational, natural explanations for a million ghost stories, but as soon as one comes up that doesn’t have an immediately obvious explanation, someone will say that this time, it really was ghosts. As I said, science has no problem admitting something is unexplained, and investigating it until it can be.

Having put down these facts can you answer my question without evading it?

Consider what the Skeptic’s Diciontary has to say about things like this:

“…when one considers the requirements for a ghost story to be true, the most reasonable position is that there is a naturalistic explanation for all these stories, but we often do not or cannot have all the details necessary to provide that explanation.” http://www.skepdic.com/ghosts.html

Since nobody has ever confirmed the existence of ghosts, demons, or spirits, and since hundreds of haunted house investigations have failed to turn up anything, it’s worth considering that there may be other explanations for what happened at your uncle’s house besides the supernatural. Also, since you apparently didn’t witness any of this, you are relying completely on anecdotal evidence and can’t say for certain that this was the work of ghosts. Sometimes it’s better to simply admit that something is, as of yet, unexplained.

when one considers the requirements for a ghost story to be true, the most reasonable position is that there is a naturalistic explanation for all these stories, but we often do not or cannot have all the details necessary to provide that explanation.

According to the dictionary a skeptic is someone with a doubtful attitude. Now the truth is there is not one person who is a real skeptic. Because usually skeptics are not skeptical about their own beliefs. If we take the above statement as an example we could see this. First of all the skeptics believe that a naturalistic explanation does exist for every ghost stories. Why are they not skeptical about this? Does this not show that they believe firmly that a super naturalistic explanation does not exist? If we cannot (I.e it is not possible to) have the necessary details to provide a naturalistic explanation how do you know that there is a naturalistic explanation at all? Is that not belief then.

Each so called skeptic always has his or her own set of beliefs. They are only skeptical about those things that are against their own beliefs. But what they do not realize is that everybody have this same behavior. Therefore the so called skeptics are no different from any other people. They just want to percent themselves with that title. I believe that there is no one who can be called a real skeptic.

Their soul is decended into heaven. Now how did this person died, plays a big role on their live after death. Say someone killed themselves, killed someone then got killed, or did something bad in their lifetime and kept it on their mind, their spirit will roam the earth.

How do you that this true? I believe that the Bible is the Word of God and according to the Bible man’s soul does not loiter around in this word. The demons are not man’s spirits but are separate beings. They do exist weather you believe in them or not. I do agree with you that these demons find it easier to work on people who have fear and nervousness. They are not jobless bored beings that just troubles people and does physical damages just for fun. They have specific reasons for troubling people in particular ways.

whenever some dies. Their soul is decended into heaven. Now how did this person died, plays a big role on their live after death. Say someone killed themselves, killed someone then got killed, or did something bad in their lifetime and kept it on their mind, their spirit will roam the earth.

Now they usually feed of of humans fears, and nervousness.whenever you feed that to them you’re basically giving them human characteristics again, and that is touching, or being able to throw things across the room. having a strong faith, and believe nothing can scared you at all.

religionisgood

I am here telling you a fact that was witnessed by my uncle. He was around 25 then and is now around 45 years old. I am not talking about an old man. He saw this himself. He walked into the kitchen one morning and found a vessel smashed. He has several such vessels of different sizes. In my home town that is the kind of vessel they boil rice in. It was smashed like a heavy weight was placed on it and pressed down.

Having put down these facts can you answer my question without evading it?

Is a smashed plate conjured up by mind?

That depends…your account of this is very selective. It doesn’t sound like either of you witnessed how those aluminum plates came to be smashed on the kitchen floor. Furthermore, it sounds like you’re relying completely an anecdotal evidence that this even happened at all. It’s also funny to me that in so many of these stories, ghosts, demons, and spirits apparently have nothing better to do with their time and power than play ridiculous pranks on people, or just move stuff around for no reason. The afterlife/fourth dimension/otherword must be a very boring place.

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Stay in any house long enough, and you’ll hear all kinds of ambient or random sounds.

How long is long enough?

your imagination can conjure up all kinds of stuff*

My uncles house was haunted. He lived in his house alone with his old mother. He had many aluminium vessels that was stored away in the attic of the kitchen. Many times in the morning he would find one such vessel on the floor of the kitchen smashed till it is almost flat. Is a smashed plate conjured up by mind?

At first glance, I thought the question said “fiscal”. That would have made it so much more interesting.

Stay in any house long enough, and you’ll hear all kinds of ambient or random sounds. If you’re home alone and you already have a superstitious mindset, your imagination can conjure up all kinds of stuff. There is probably a very logical explanation for the door slamming, along with all the other noises.

I dont belive in spooky peeps :S