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alright this is for people asking the same religious question about god if you think he is real then tell me this how did he create himself and how did he creat the whole entire univers? cause how in the heck can he create himself that doest make any sence?
No Supernatural powers created us or earth:
Example: If I am in a hurry in my kitchen, trying to find something at the back of the chemical cupboard. By trying to do so, I accidently bump a few chemicals over and 2-3 of them fall from the height of 1.8m to the floor, burst open right in front of me! Within seconds there is a hell of an explosion, because these fumes reaches the stove where I'm busy cooking!
Now who created this chemical reaction? Was it me? No because I only dropped the bottles on the floor by accident. There could have been an earthquake causing it to fall and created the same reaction. Who created the explosion then? Yeah I wasn’t supposed to store these together BUT we can’t say god created the explosion, was his intention then to harm me or my family? Earth plate’s move, that’s part of our world’s changing continents! Continents which moves has been proven as fact, religious people apparently do not believe it is possible. They don’t believe Pangea existed, if they do, they would also know earth is not 6000 or even 15000 years old. Plate’s moves slower than the human nail can grow!
So who caused other micro organisms to enter earth atmosphere and start life? No one, asteroids and comets go their ways, like you kicking a ball to your friend and it hits the window! Whyyy…..
I'm not religious but I do kind of agree with some of these people. you say you cant believe in God because he couldnt have created himself but like someone said before... Lets say Godd doesnt exist and the world is a creation made by two atoms like the big bang theory says, then how did those two atoms just create themselves??? Rap your head around that!!! dont judge somebody elses religion just because you have no faith or belief in it. accept people whether you agree with them or not,. I am the only non religious member of my family yet I accept that they have their faith. religion is an over-rated topic that is very sensitive for all parties involved so why is it that its always brought up in conversation??? the only person you need to prove yourself to is yourself so stop picking on other people and there religious views just to feel special about yourself or to feel like you "the man" because honestly you just make yourself look stupid. now I know most of you arent going to agree with me or probably say nasty things back but guess what... I dont care. because I'm agnostic and proud of it and I know who I am, I dont need your approval.
hope you managed to rap your heads around that people. :) PEACE
You are doubting the idea that God created himself? Good on you. I agree with you!! It is impossible for something to create itself. It has to be made by something else. But hang on a minute - this idea also applies to the universe. The universe can't have created itself, it had to be created by something else. Sure, you say the big bang created the universe, but what set off the big bang? For me the best explination is that God did it! And to explain the existence of God... the creation of the universe was the first real event that happened in the history of the universe, right? And time also started when the universe began. So there was no time before the universe began, there was only God. God is not bound by time, like we as humans are. He is like watching us on a digital TV, rewinding and fast forwarding whenever he wants to. I know this idea is hard to understand, and even I don't understand it fully, but I beleive in God based on all the amazing evidence for him. Look around - look at all the beauty of the earth, how it all fits together perfectly. It's finely tuned so that we can survive on it. This isn't a random act of chance - it is an amazing act of creation.
Hey yo, wrap your mind around this lol :p I want you to get a "perfect circle" maybe a cup or a ring, maybe you draw a circle. Once you have that circle look at it closely. A perfect cirlce when look at it, you cannot tell where is its beginning or its end. And God is the same way God has no beginning or end. He is PERFECT. HE IS HOLY. Now science can prove there is a God. Ex. Science say that our dna has a special signature to it. Now my question is "Who sign it" lol Another thing if you believe in the big bang or whatever. That atom or whatever did not create itself.
Now you might not understand God all the way. :) Join the club, noone could understand Him ALL the way. Or else He wouldnt be so perfect and Holy if you could understand Him. His ways are higher than ours. Anyways hope that kinda helped. If you want more info leave me a comment Peace and God bless :)
OK, you wanted believers to answer your question, well here is my answer to your question as a believer :)
God has and always existed. God was never created or made, He is the supreme being because He is higher then any human or other beings. Hence God was already there before the world was even created.
The above comment is fact to me and I am sure most people will not contemplate that as fact ;)
--- --- ___ Rawrashlee, by the way NOT all Christians condemn non-believers to hell thank you very much. A few bad apples does not justified your words "Christians ALWAYS", please think singluar and not plural.
What you first have to understand is there is no beginning or end to God. But God himself did at one time have a father and a mother. In heaven and on a earth somewhere. Also what you need to understand is that Jesus was the God of this world. If you read in the new testiment you'll read about 3 t'x's where God the Father answers Jesus. They are two different people or beings. God the Father is our Father in Heaven, he is who it is you pray too. Jesus was Jehova of the old testiment. He under the direction of the Father made this world. He is the God of it. It was only he who could die for our sins in this world.
God thinks, and becomes the things he thinks about. I didnt coin that, I heard it from someone. This may be the reason why Jesus himself said: That which doth appear is that which it is made . . " Just imagine if this is true. Then we are all connected to each-other and God. Isnt that good news?
I believe it is Hinduism that teaches a similar theory of creation; In the beginning God seperated himself into an infinite number of pieces, gave them all amnesia and the cosmic game is to see which ones REALIZE they are the same, and when this happens they call it "Enlightenment" . . . interesting.
*** This isn't a random act of chance - it is an amazing act of creation. ***
Prove it...
Of course everything seems to 'fit together'. If it didn't life would never have developed here. Given that there are probably trillions upon trillions of stars, the odds are that billions of stars would be the right kind to support planets that support life. We happen to be one. One does not need a supernatural explanation. Try reading a science book once in a while, instead of an ancient text written superstitious men.
God is the Alpha and Omega and our minds are too small to even comprehend who God really is. God is Mighty, Powerful and Love, He is superior above all. I don't understand how a person cannot believe that God exists when you just have to look around you and you see what He has created. God is AWESOME and I think if we had to have just a glimpse of understanding of the where and how's of God we would go insane because our minds are just not capable of that understanding.
you say you cant believe in God because he couldnt have created himself but like someone said before... Lets say Godd doesnt exist and the world is a creation made by two atoms like the big bang theory says, then how did those two atoms just create themselves???
That's more or less the point. Many theists mock non-theists on the basis that "nothing can't create anything", then hand-wave around the origin of their own deity as if that explains anything at all.
Irish - how could something so random be set up so perfectly?
Hmm you guys must now decide if this world is “perfect” or when someone dies you must be glad that he is out of this “awful” world! Contradiction! So which one is it?
BTW everything wasn’t all that “perfect” a few million years ago, if it was, humans would have evolved a long time ago already. Just think how much more technologically advanced we would have been! ;-)
I don't understand how a person cannot believe that God exists when you just have to look around you and you see what He has created.
Maybe it's because he's so damn shy, and refuses to give any sign of his existence whatsoever. Or perhaps because there's scores of competing religions, all of which claim their god is real. Or maybe just because natural processes are sufficient to explain everything we observe. Take your pick.
ok, in that cause, how was everything made. there had to be somethin in the beginning that put everything in motion and as christians we believe that God was what started everything. so whatever way you look at it, something made itself or there never was a beginng, now, which is easier to wrap you mind around, that a great force was always there and started it, or that physical object created theirselves.
Good question,God is the word Beginning I know it can be confusing,just remember something had to create all we see and know:get this before Humans even new anything it was implanted in are minds ,so we can do the things, say and come to answers,these questions were not implanted to be answered,we will never know in this life.Just go the ever so narrow path of Righteousness and you can't go wrong.
No one can explain everything, we only have the bible to reference and it doesn't tell us everything, that's why we have FAITH! everything in the bible adds up, so we have faith. One day if you have the chance you can ask him in heaven! Not even scientists can explain everything in space or earth, this world was carefully set up to function as it does, it was not coincidence.
by the way pats view...I believe you might have mixed up you answer a little. Jehovah is the name of our God in heaven. Jesus was the son of god put on earth. Jesus actually was the fleshly body of Michael. Michael the arch-angel in heaven was given a fleshly body on earth by Jehovah god(he named him Jesus) to preach gods word.
dear Im sorry I wuznt trying to imply all christains sorry to offend you I'm very sorry kay? I just was saying how quite a few christains have told me this and uno the whole "your gonna rot in hell" thing gets really inoying after a while so fruitylicous I'm very sorry for offending you :)
It amazes me how believers will readily accept the concept of god being timeless and was not 'created', but then scoff at the idea that Space/Time might be infinite, and insist it HAD to be created. If god can be infinite, then why couldn't anything can be?
*** I have yet to meet a christian that scoffs at the idea of space and time being infinite ***
Really? If space/time is infinite, that means it was never created. How many christians believe god DIDN'T create the universe (I.e. space/time)?
Nothing is ever created nor destroyed, they simply change forms. The very idea of creation is a misnomer.
Theists have 'created' a god to explain how the world was created - an exercise in futility based in ignorance.
I agree with this question! jeez christains ALWAYS are telling me I'm going to hell because I don't belive when they can't even explain there god theyr all just narrow minded no offence to anyone belive what you wish :)
agreed with arachnid.
My big question is still what caused or created god? There has to be an explanation if the guy exists, yet no one has ever given me a proper explanation.
Who said they created themselves? They developed and evolved. There is no reason to jump to the conclusion that some supernatural being created all.
You're not going to get a sensible answer here. Theists generally just make up some nonsense about god being "infinite" to try and avoid this problem.
u dont get it how did he creat himself if their was nothing then how did he creat himself when their was nothing and rap your mind around that lol
how could something so random be set up so perfectly? there is know way that w/o a greater force that the universe could be set up
honestly, no offense, but anyone using the earth and the life on it as proof that god exists has lost credibility in my opinion.
one day they say. when you die you just might find out.. no one knows how god was created or how everything happend
he always was. He also created time. wrap your mind around that!
religion is stupid