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Okay I think I do believe in god im not sure its a strange thing right but say he does we earth was made by him and adam and eve as it says so... Why would they be different life on different planets if theres one god? Does that mean there with us with the same god? Or god dont exist and we evolved from creatures or apes?? And like about this 2012 stuff people who are good are ment to be saved and the bad left?? Like I dont no what to believe its hard! Its just so confusing to me. What do you guys think?
okai ... first of all I think that it is MORE stupid not to believe in God than it is to actually beleive in Him..((don't get me started about the whole big bang nonsence))
The big bang is a scientific THEORY that ATTEMPTS to explain the origins of the universe. It's never been claimed to be 100% correct, but it does make a lot more sense then claiming some god made it...ever thought of WHO MADE YOUR GOD.
*** The only reason people believe in the big bang is because they cannot stand to think that there is a God in control, they want to be in control and want to know everything.***
Not everyone who doesn't believe in god believes in the big bang THEORY, in fact most people don't BELIEVE IN the big bang, they just believe that it sounds more plausible then some guy in the sky deciding to create someone and punishing a women and a man for eating an apple...
They cannot stand to think that there is sumthing WAY outta there legue..(sorri 4 spellin mistakes by the way)
Wrong, you are once AGAIN ASSUMING that is what people who do not believe in your god believes.
*** I personally dont think that there is life on other planets okai, erm.. how is that Earth was the only planet created which has perfect conditions in which a human being and animals can survive on, all the other planets are either too hot, too cold, *** The other planets in THIS SOLAR system, we don't yet know whether there are others because we do not know how large the universe is.
evolution is a load of rubbish...if we evolved then why are we not still evolving, sum people say that we have stopped evolving because we have evolved to our best because that is not strictly true.
We are still evolving, but evolution takes place over MILLIONS of years. Furthermore certain species of snakes are evolving and elephants (over roughly the last 200 years have evolved TREMENDOUSLY to adapt to circumstances).
You just really lost ALL your credibility, next time try and RESEARCH a topic before trying to comment on it, you obviously don't even know what evolution is about.
**.wud we not be better if we could have wings and fly and breath under water??? ** Why would that be necessary, what would be the point of that. Evolution generally has a point...I.e. creatures and human being evolve to adapt to circumstances.
God created all the planets..all the earth...and everything that was on it and things that are here now...aliens don't exsist..
What PROOF do you have of either? ps. a book that someone wrote in a few thousand years ago is not proof.
***((thats what I believe)) im really sorry if I am coming across funny or not very nice or pushy in any way, I don't mean it to be like that I am just stating my opinion.
You are coming across rude and uneducated.
**thats why I dont think that global warming can be stopped because its something thats being put here so the world ends when God wants it to... **
Why not just save himself the trouble and do it with a snap of his fingers?
I try to not question all the time about things like how the earth began, if aliens exsist,
VERY OBVIOUS when reading the nonsense you spouted about evolution and the big bang. And why not question things? Scared that you might find that it isn't true?
*** if theres more than one God because I know the truth, and I live for today and I just follow what it says in the Bible ..***
What? Rephrase, you know the truth of what?
Ps. You didn't answer the question.
As for the questions: Your questions just proves that the idea of a god isn't as plausible as you would like to think. I always wondered, why not give everyone the same opportunity that adam and eve had...I.e. start them of in paradise. I mean being that cruel to generations and generations of people just because one idiot got tricked by a snake doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
steph_nish - What a failure of the British education system, I am ashamed and surprised that you're from the same country!
'okai ... first of all I think that it is MORE stupid not to believe in God than it is to actually beleive in Him.. ((don't get me started about the whole big bang nonsence)) The only reason people believe in the big bang is because they cannot stand to think that there is a God in control, they want to be in control and want to know everything. They cannot stand to think that there is sumthing WAY outta there legue..(sorri 4 spellin mistakes by the way)'
As oppose to believing that your life is that important that there must be some higher being watching over you. What arrogance.
'how is that Earth was the only planet created which has perfect conditions in which a human being and animals can survive on, all the other planets are either too hot, too cold, desolate without living organisms or made from gas..(is that saturn thats made frm gas?))'
You do realise that there is estimated to be billions of stars in our galaxy, and billions of galaxies?
'evolution is a load of rubbish...if we evolved then why are we not still evolving, sum people say that we have stopped evolving because we have evolved to our best because that is not strictly true..wud we not be better if we could have wings and fly and breath under water???'
You clearly don't appreciate how evolution works. Evolution doesn't evolve to the best possible solution, (which would indicate the existence of a creator), it makes the best of where you started from. Hence why whales don't have gills and have to rise to the surface to breath (it is believed they evolved from a cow like land animal).
If you don't feel the big bang is a scientifically satisfactory explanation for our existence (and I don't know how good the scientific evidence is, it's not my field), then just remember that because science doesn't explain everything, it does know a hell of a lot. Just remember how comfortable your life is thanks to science. At humanity's infancy our life expectancy was around 20 years, and it was pretty unlikely that you would have survived childhood/childbirth and made it to adulthood. Seems you want to pick and choose which elements of science to believe in...
I will try to answer your questions emorach.
'Why would they be different life on different planets if theres one god?'
I'm not sure what's so special about the idea of life on other planets. Why that would suddenly debunk the literal truth of the bible? According to the bible the earth is around 6000 years old, and I'm guessing dinosaurs and humans were supposed to have co existed :)
'Like I dont no what to believe its hard! Its just so confusing to me. What do you guys think?'
I hope this gets to the essence. My view is that you should base your beliefs on evidence. If you believe myth, superstition and religion, surely you will be just lost? How do you choose what to believe, and what to disregard. Why Christianity, because it is the parents of your parents/culture? There have been thousands of religions throughout humanity's existence, they can't all be right, I would prefer to believe that they are all wrong. If you listen to what the evidence is telling you, you can just flat our disregard nonsense such as the 2012. I'm not saying there isn't something spiritual our there, maybe even a God, multiple Gods, an afterlife of some sort, just that there isn't enough evidence to have any real conviction or belief in it. And Christianity and suchlike are flawed philosophies to base your life on. (You should do good because you want to, not for fear of punishment, for example).
--I personally dont think that there is life on other planets okai, erm..--
The odds are against you.
--how is that Earth was the only planet created which has perfect conditions in which a human being and animals can survive--
That's because we're Evolved to the conditions.
--on all the other planets are either too hot, too cold, desolate without living organisms--
You're talking about in our solar system? Do you know there are billions of galaxies with billions of stars, that potentially have their own solar systems?
We've detected a couple of planets that exist within the habitual zone, but they've been several times larger than earth which is hypothetically non-conducive to the development of life.
Though because of their size, it's hard to tell whether they are terrestrial-like planets, gas planets, or something new all together: gaseous-terrestrial-like planets.
We havn't discovered planets similar in size and orbit to Earth yet but that might change with better technology, a planets dimness in contrast to it's star handicaps our efforts in discovering them.
I'd say it's safe to assume there are earth-like planets, terrestrial-like planets, planets far more intriguing and exotic than our own you bet!
--or made from gas..(is that saturn thats made frm gas?))--
Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune in our solar system
over 300 discovered gas exoplanets (in our galaxy)
? undiscovered planets
--God created all the planets..all the earth...and everything that was on it and things that are here now...aliens don't exsist..((thats what I believe)) im really--
Actually, planets form as a by-product of star formation. A star forms from a contracting cloud of gas collapsing in under gravity. Planets form out of the gaseous matter left revolving around it (unless absorbed by the star) As the matter accrues and grows into planetesimals, they collide and draw more matter and debris to them by gravity- growing into planets.
Besides examples that have demonstrated this, we've observed planet making material revolving around other stars. Take star Beta Pictoris's for example or Fomalhaut`s debris disk in which a planet has formed.
--evolution is a load of rubbish...if we evolved then why are we not still evolving, sum people say that we have stopped evolving because we have evolved to our best because that is not strictly true..--
jeezy peezy, it looks as though those who don't believe in evolution DO NOT even understand it. ... The ancients who invented god ages ago had a conception of the universe which only included what could be seen from the sky and hence they were very ignorant by todays standards (and unfortunately many people still are)
Infact a common view held was that the sky was a solid dome, the earth were flat, and the sun, moon and stars were smallish and revolved around the earth.
They had no knowledge of other planets or much else for that matter.
Overall, I don't think our knowledge of the universe is relevant to god mythology at all or see reason to believe in it.
okai ... first of all I think that it is MORE stupid not to believe in God than it is to actually beleive in Him.. ((don't get me started about the whole big bang nonsence)) The only reason people believe in the big bang is because they cannot stand to think that there is a God in control, they want to be in control and want to know everything. They cannot stand to think that there is sumthing WAY outta there legue..(sorri 4 spellin mistakes by the way) I personally dont think that there is life on other planets okai, erm.. how is that Earth was the only planet created which has perfect conditions in which a human being and animals can survive on, all the other planets are either too hot, too cold, desolate without living organisms or made from gas..(is that saturn thats made frm gas?)) evolution is a load of rubbish...if we evolved then why are we not still evolving, sum people say that we have stopped evolving because we have evolved to our best because that is not strictly true..wud we not be better if we could have wings and fly and breath under water??? God created all the planets..all the earth...and everything that was on it and things that are here now...aliens don't exsist..((thats what I believe)) im really sorry if I am coming across funny or not very nice or pushy in any way, I don't mean it to be like that I am just stating my opinion. On the 2012 thing, to me it links to a lot of stuff, first of all in the Bible God tells us that we will NOT know when the day of judgement is. so I dont really think that 2012 is the set year for it, if people are saying that the world will end in 2012 then thats their belief. it does say in the Bilble that the world will come to an end, thats why I dont think that global warming can be stopped because its something thats being put here so the world ends when God wants it to... I try to not question all the time about things like how the earth began, if aliens exsist, if theres more than one God because I know the truth, and I live for today and I just follow what it says in the Bible .. xxx if yhu have anymore questions feel free to ask me xxx and I hope I made sum sense.. xx
Your trying to convince me that evolution is true?? Your telling me a whale evolved from a cow like land creature??
Well, let me give you an example of evolution that happens today, maybe that will jolt a few thinking cells...
Elephants, about 200 years ago they had HUGE, long tusks and were MASSIVE, today you find that the average elephant is much smaller with much smaller tusks than quite a few years back, why? Because they evolved, the much larger ones were killed for ivory and therefore nature gradually worked them out.
How about rattlesnakes, the rattles of the snakes are getting smaller and smaller, because the ones with the big rattles are more prone to get killed by predators and humans.
You still don't know a thing about evolution and tell me. HOW ON EARTH do you find the idea that a whale evolved from cows more absurd then some man in the sky that was just there I.e. what/who created your god? Or is this just another difficult question to avoid. The big bang and evolution and all those other theories ATTEMPTS to explain our existence much better then religion can.
Furthermore I agree with slavaim. There is something missing from your education, not just in terms of evolution, but in terms of forming healthy and well thought out arguments as well.
OH and get a grip and start being open-minded.
I think you should read back carefully, you have misunderstood, quite catastrophically happy
Then explain to me how I misunderstood, because you the ONE that doesn't seem to be able to form a coherent argument.
I agree with TheHelper. if evolution was real and we did evolve from monkeys than monkeys would no longer exist because they would be humans.
WAKE UP, this is the THIRD TIME that I am explaining this. You are another one who hasn't READ what evolution is about, you just go on what you have heard. You are seriously looking STUPID right now.
The theory of evolution NEVER EVER SAYS that we evolved from monkeys. It says that we have a COMMON ANCESTOR (go look up the word in a dictionary if it's that difficult to understand) with monkeys. There is a HUGE difference.
And EVEN IF humans did evolve from monkeys (which they didn't) why should all monkeys have evolved into humans?
It's the British education system that let you down in terms of evolution. As I say, you haven't even a grasp of the basics. I'm not sure which particular denomination you belong to but as far as I am aware even the Pope, and the Anglican church acknowledge the existence of evolution. Crucial difference between us is evolution is based on evidence, your belief is based on the conviction that you are right.
Also steph_nish, tell me, why is the idea that whales evolved from a land mammal, or we from apes, any more implausible than a great flood wiping everyone out, save the pairs of animals/humans they managed to get together on a boat; a virgin mary; the resurrection, eve being born from adam's rib etc.
Dear "slavain" The Bristish education system wasnt the one who showed me the Truth of The God of The universe. thankfully... it was God himself! If you live a life with God YOU WILL SEE EVIDENCE TRUST ME! You clearly don't appreciate what the Lord has done for you or the world around you. and your right I certainly do not appreciate evolution!! thats not giving God the glory. Your trying to convince me that evolution is true?? Your telling me a whale evolved from a cow like land creature?? Get a grip its totally laughable!
There's only so much you can do before you're banging your head against a brick wall. I think we have reached this stage
Another one that loses a fight. You're all the same, you never even attempt to debate properly. You never even raised a valid point about why you don't believe in the big bang, you just make everything off as stupid. Very mature answer to an argument.
OH and you should stop banging your head against a brick wall, it's not that difficult to start questioning things.
Then explain to me how I misunderstood, because you the ONE that doesn't seem to be able to form a coherent argument.
I appears to ME, that 'slavaim' was referencing the stereotypical theists' general inability to think rationally; as shown by their complete lack of understanding of simple concepts that are contrary to their own dim-witted beliefs.
Meaning he AGREES with you, but thinks its a waste for you to try and educate them as this point. Cuzz... dey... too... stoopid...
I agree with TheHelper. if evolution was real and we did evolve from monkeys than monkeys would no longer exist because they would be humans. and as for aliens and all that I personally dont believe they exist and if they did why would they look any different than us like in the movies? God would have probably made them the same as us. im not really sure though. I've never believed in aliens and neither do my friends and family so im just saying this from opinion.
If evolution is true, why do monkeys still exist? Shouldn't they have evolved too? &
Have you been reading ANYTHING that we have said?
Why shouldn't monkeys exist. Human beings didn't evolve from monkeys, they have a common ANCESTOR with monkeys.
You also don't seem to know anything about evolution.
And why should we throw the big bang theory in the thrash?
Simply. If aliens exist it has nothing to do with whether or not God exists. Perhaps they both do and God just Chose not to tell us about them because whether or not they exist has absoloutely nothing to do with us and how we must answer for being a part of a race of people that chose to reject God's way of doing things.
and your right I certainly do not appreciate evolution!! because it makes no sense what so ever
That's because you simply lack the SENSE to understand it... nor do you even want to. Evident by your inane ramblings. If you wish to remain ignorant, with an over-inflated sense of self-importance... then you will.
If ET's are ever discovered, which I strongly doubt, it will not preclude ideas of god, but it would invalidate the idea that all of creation was put forth just to create humans...and idea I think is already refuted by the existence of other highly intelligent animals, such as dolphins, whales, chimps, and some birds.
ifeelcrazy123 - There's only so much you can do before you're banging your head against a brick wall. I think we have reached this stage :) As the quote goes 'You can't convince a believer of anything; for their belief is not based on evidence, it's based on a deep-seated need to believe.'
Indeed, I thought it was self evident, I had been arguing in favour of evolution the entire way through this post :) I directed it at you because I thought you were wasting your time with the creationist. Apologies if it was confusing.
because it makes no sense what so ever
Why doesn't it make any sense? How does the idea that there is a god that created everything make more sense?
If evolution is true, why do monkeys still exist? Shouldn't they have evolved too?
evolution needs to be thrown in the trash along with the big bang theory
Why would it mean God doesn't exist? Maybe He has a plan for each planet, and when we die, we all get to meet and greet with aliens.
Sorry slavaim. I apologize. I did in fact misunderstand. :)
Probably got the wrong user as well...sigh
I think you should read back carefully, you have misunderstood, quite catastrophically :)
aliens probably will come from another planet with an atmostphere.
Thanks Steph that made me think a lot :) you did help :)
because it makes no sense what so ever
Agree with Steph Nish
