Religion vs science

What do you guys belive in more and why??

***Science is the Atheists religion. The mainstream religions are for believers.
Science is a religion for non-believers. There is no proof for either. That question is really asking which religion do you prefer: One that relies on ancient texts as evidence or one that is still groping for evidence?

I know there is a minimum age for site membership...but what about a minimum IQ?

no proof for science...

THats the question that drives me nuts lol I mean I don't know im like in the middle?
so I just perfer not to talk about it

science, because religion is man made. That's not saying there isn't a spiritual side or an afterlife, but the idea of Christianity, Islam and the like as an explanation is laughable, they're patently false. The fact that so many people actually believe this nonsense is depressing

I don't understand why they can not work together!
A higher being created the universe...Science just explains in a practical, realistic way as to how is happened. Not why it happened. That we wont ever know.

Those two are not mutually exclusive, it doesnt have to be one or the other... it depends on the religion I suppose... scientology and science might be mutually exclusive...

Science is the Atheists religion. The mainstream religions are for believers.
Science is a religion for non-believers. There is no proof for either. That question is really asking which religion do you prefer: One that relies on ancient texts as evidence or one that is still groping for evidence?

I believe in a creator. The Bible has the answers that people are looking for, but it takes faith. Then that faith becomes confidence. I first had faith and believed what I was blinded fromm seeing for so long. Now I know for sure that God made the heavens and the earth. We are no accident or from monkeys. We did not just get here. The word of God states were we came from, why we are here, and where we will live an eternal life. Genesis is a good book, it is the first book that tell all about mans orgin. I onehundred percent believe this powerful word because it has become real in my life. All of Gods promises are yes and amen. I felt the transformation in 2001 and still am growing strong in the Lord. I continually seek to know more and more about the God who saved me from my filth. The evidence that God exists and that it is all because of Him, is shown in my life. I along with many others have been given an opportunity to share our experiences with so many people about a real life change. God gives man a brain, and some men seem to have so much knowledge, but at the same time it does not compare with the abilities we have when filled with His spirit. The carnal man can not understand God. Yet the spirit knows all things. Just think about it, if you seek Gods word with a sincere heart, you will know that not religion, because religion does not have the power to save, but that God, is the beginning and the end, there is no one like the one that created you and every last detail about you. Have a great night.

science cause they have proof and can back up their claims and scientist are willing to believe any changes with evidence. but religion you have no proof like the whole world flooded and noah put only two animals of every kind which is impossible. and they try to change osmeones mind they tell them fairytales not facts.

***Science is the Atheists religion.***

To say this is awfully ignorent. You see, they do not have much proof for what they believe in, (which is not science) so they believe it in faith. They do not, NOT, have evidence enough to prove what most of them believe in (evolution, not science). Below is the definition for both science and religion. (dictionary.com)

Science:
1. a branch of knowledge or study dealing with a body of facts or truths systematically arranged and showing the operation of general laws.
EXAMPLE: the mathematical sciences.
2. systematic knowledge of the physical or material world gained through observation and experimentation.

Religion:
1. a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, esp. when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.
2. a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects.
EXAMPLE: the Christian religion; the Buddhist religion

Lets look at def. 2 of science: ***systematic knowledge of the physical or material world gained through observation and experimentation. ***
Please, an evolutionist tell me, (I used to be one myself) how you are supposed to 'observe' or 'experiment' evolution. It is harder to believe we came from a blown up speck of dust trillions upon trillions of years ago, then believing that someone made the world and put us in it. Yes, I believe some relgion lines up with science. Look in the Bible; there are truths about the universe made thousands of years before they were discovered. Here is a list:

Scientific Truth: The stars are too great in number to count
Verse/s: Genesis 15:5 Jeremiah 33:22 Hebrews 11:12
Date written: 1450-1410 BC 627-585 BC 64-68 AD
Date Discovered: 19th Century AD
This may seem obvious, it gets better.
(When I show 2 or more dates, I am talking about one or more scriptures)

The Earth is shaped like a sphere (round) and rotates
Isaiah 40:22 Luke 17:34-36
746-680 BC 60 AD
1500's If my memory serves me right was when it was made widely known.
Luke 17:34-36 depicts Christ's Second Coming as happening while some are asleep at night and others are working at day-time activities in the field, an indication of a rotating earth with day and night at the same time.

The Jet Stream
Ecclesiastes 1:6
935 BC
Around WWII this was discovered

Life is in the blood
Leviticus 17:11 Leviticus 17:14
1450-1410 BC
1830 whith a doctor named 'Marshall Hall'

Air has weight
Job 28-25
950 BC or earlier
Mathematician Evangelista Torricelli discovered this in 1643.

Dinosaurs and humans existed at the same time
Gen. 1:23-27 Job 40:15-24
1450-1410 950 BC or earlier
20th century
(Don't believe me? visit http://www.creationists.org/dinosaurs-humans-coexisted.html)

There is much more I can tell you, but for the sake of time, just visit this link:
http://www.creationists.org/scientific-foreknowledge-in-the-bible.html

Please do not say these were assumptions made by ancient man. You have not proved God wrong yet. The Bible is NOT a science book, though everything it says about science is correct.

jcrod...the Greeks knew the Earth was round, *BEFORE* Jesus time...learn some history, eh?

Utopia: Give me ONE example where science has 'proof'!!

*** Science is the Atheists religion.

Yes, that's right. 5 times a day, I point myself in the direction of the Galapagos and recite the scientific method. On Sunday's I get up early , put on a suit and go into the lab to listen to someone tell me how to live my life. I then fork over 10% of my net for that privilege.

When times are tough, I read biology texts for inspiration, and ask my friends and family to splice genes to help me get through it.

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Look religious folks, nonreligious folks really are nonreligious. I know that's difficult for many of you to understand, but it's really true. Science is neither a god nor a religion, it's simply a rigorous approach to obtaining knowledge that is time tested and works. Even creationists benefit from the fruits of science. The reverse is not true.

***jcrod...the Greeks knew the Earth was round, *BEFORE* Jesus time...learn some history, eh?***

Yes, but it was just a philosiphy, not a discovery, (thanks for saying it though, I just researched it) until the 3rd century BC. Yes it was before the time of Jesus, but the text which tells about the earth bieng round was made around 300-400 years before the greek discovery.

***Utopia: Give me ONE example where science has 'proof'!!***

Science is just knowledge gained from observing and experimenting on specific things. Science is just the knowledge we gain all through time.

True science will prove the bible is right, not wrong. Theories, are where the problems come in.

SCIENCE...

Does god get a kick out of natural disasters?

Does a bajillion species of bacteria and viruses just strike his fance?

Reminds me of the creationist claim- that Jupiter is the solar systems vacuum, consuming asteroids that would possibly hit earth,
while simultaneously claiming god is the creator of everything.

then why create asteroids in the first place? why's he have to use a planet, isn't he all-powerful?

simply put everything is better understood without god in it.

gravity is a conspiracy amirite?

***Utopia: Give me ONE example where science has 'proof'!!***

You can't SERIOUSLY be that stupid... u___u

***Yes it was before the time of Jesus, but the text which tells about the earth bieng round was made around 300-400 years before the greek discovery.***

...uh huh...

And which text are you referring to? Be sure not to confuse a circle with a sphere.

***True science will prove the bible is right, not wrong. Theories, are where the problems come in.***

Riiight... as we speak TRUE scientists are working round the clock to find the ''four corners of the Earth'' and the ''pillars'' the ''unmoving'' Earth is mounted on. They're also sending probes into space, to find the zipper, because the stars are all part of a tent that God put the world in.

lol

who says the study of knowledge (SCIENCE), and belief in a God not go together???

to me they go perfectly together.

science is just observing the matter around us, and explaining what ALREADY IS.
God on the other hand, has the answers to all those questions that explain WHY things ALREADY ARE.

to me you cant have one without the other. all of our knowledge was given to us from years and years of studying the earth.

just because we find out something new about the earth doesnt mean that it hasnt ALWAYS been that way.

how does science disprove God anyway???
it certainly cant prove the *theory* of evolution.

lets have an open mind like a scientist would

and that bieng said, you cant claim that Evolution or Creationism, is either wrong or right.

you can just accept the fact that the both are theories, and they BOTH DESERVE to be equal theories, despite whatever opinion you have.

and if you have any opinion doubting any of the two, then you obviously arent thinking like a scientist.

***God on the other hand, has the answers to all those questions that explain WHY things ALREADY ARE.***

Unprovable, untestable answers ARE NOT answers. They're just guesses. THAT is why science and God don't go together.

***and that bieng said, you cant claim that Evolution or Creationism, is either wrong or right. you can just accept the fact that the both are theories, and they BOTH DESERVE to be equal theories, despite whatever opinion you have.***

From a scientific standpoint, they AREN'T both theories. The idea of Creationism introduces metaphysics, or more specifically, natural theology... something that CAN NOT be observed, tested, analyzed, compared, contrasted, etc.

Which means... the concept is unscientific.

***and they BOTH DESERVE to be equal theories, despite whatever opinion you have.***

That is just your opinion, and a double-standard.

***and if you have any opinion doubting any of the two, then you obviously arent thinking like a scientist.***

Learn MORE about the scientific method, before you make such silly claims. Oh, and learn the correct definition of 'fact' ...you use the term FAR too casually.

nlocnil, there's a fine line between better and easily. And I actually agree with ya, it's much more easier if you just stop believing in God altogether, we can then do anything without ever feeling guilty, 'because we won't have to answer to anyone in the end, perfect for most people, really.

Granted, the easiest is not always the best.

As for proof, well, we love proof. It gives us sense of assurance. The famous human 'need' to understand everything. Whoever said it's our destiny to understand everything anyway.

I read in a book: Man’s misfortune stems from the fact that he does not want to stay in the room where he belongs.

I can't help but to somehow agree with it. Trying to be critic about things doesn't always help.