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I think god made it a point not to leave cold hard evidence of his being because otherwise there would be no need for faith... Im not religious but thats what any religious person would say... some scientists say that god is the catalyst that started the big bang since that started everything
I just found a very interesting site
http://www.godandscience.org
They have tons of information there from scientific explanations of the big bang theory to bible prophecy, and give some concrete evidence about questions I personally have had for years. It's going to take forever to read all of it but it's great!
The word 'god' is too vague to be able to disprove without first narrowing down what the word means.
In regards to the wagon wheel comment, it simply isn't true. Ron Wyatt photographed a few calcite formations that looked sort of wheel shaped when viewed at just the right angle, and claimed they were chariot wheels. This is absurd beyond all belief. If god had actually parted the red sea, and the Egyptian army went through it only to be covered back up by the water, and all this happened thousands of years ago, there would not be chariot wheels still sticking out of the sand. They would have rotted away thousands of years ago and be covered with sediment as well.
Please use a modicum of common sense when reviewing these 'proofs'.
I state again, I am looking for proof, not conjecture. I want documentation not opinion. PROVE IT TO ME WITHOUT A SHADOW OF A DOUBT. Until you can prove to me and I have concrete evidence to look at, the only thing I see is someone still looking for the answers. Instead of evading the question, look it up. Try to find out if there IS proof. I can tell you already because I have spent the past few days searching. I have found more proofs for what is in the bible than I imagined possible.
Oh. and by the way, it wasn't just chariot tracks. They found chariot wheels and other things as well. Google it.
because hes made up...there is no proof of something thats made up
FIRST you need to go and find all this proof of god you seem to be talking about...there is none, there no proof he dosnt exist because theres no proof that he does exist...there is is...no proof.
so those who choose to beieive in something made up by people many years ago can, and those who dont wish to follow the herd dont.
I state again, I am looking for proof, not conjecture. I want documentation not opinion.
Why would you demand that we not give conjecture, and then refer us to this website http://www.godandscience.org/ which is based almost entirely on conjecture? Take this article:
http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/nogod.html
There is not a shred of evidence anywhere in there, just a bunch of rambling about God's place in the timeline and how many dimensions he must exist in. The author failed to refute a single proof. The reason his explanations are so inadequate is because he already expects the reader to have his point of view, rather than complete doubt in God's existence and the Bible's accuracy. Most of the other articles I looked at on that site are equally worthless. The failure to grasp the astrophysics of the Big Bang was obvious from the start.
Until you can prove to me and I have concrete evidence to look at, the only thing I see is someone still looking for the answers.
And what is wrong with looking for answers? And still looking? And then looking some more? It's the quest for answers that has made the world you live in. Why do we have to decide right here, right now, if God does or doesn't exist?
I have found more proofs for what is in the bible than I imagined possible.
Why don't you check out some websites authored by people who are atheist and agnostic? Why don't you check out this website: http://www.talkorigins.org which not only gives good explanations about evolution and the Big Bang, but also pokes tons of holes in the Noah's Ark story.
Or this website: http://www.religioustolerance.org which asks a lot of great questions about Bible prophecies and the existence of God.
Why don't you do a little research on all points of view rather than just the ones that support a predetermined conclusion?
They found chariot wheels and other things as well. Google it.
First of all, the story in the Bible isn't referring to the Red Sea. It's referring to the Sea of Reeds. The phrase in Hebrew is Yam Suph. The Sea of Reeds is essentially a swamp, and it's located to the north of the modern day Red Sea. Google that.
So, finding chariot parts in the Red Sea means absolutely nothing. And either way, it takes a lot of the drama out of the story. Obviously, a chariot army would have great difficulty crossing marshland. If the story really did happen, the Israelites probably claimed later that God delivered them, even though it was really nature vs. man.
The thing you may be missing is that I did not grow up Christian. I have been searching for answers on my own since I was twelve. I did not become a Christian because I am gullible as you seem to assume. What I am saying is, if you don't have 100% proof that He does not exist, why do you keep saying He doesn't? Do you take it on faith?
There was a point to the question. You believe something without having proof and documentation!!! I believe something without proof or documentation!!! We are not all that different. THIS IS MY POINT!!! Instead of always fighting shouldn't we start looking for ACTUAL PROOF before we attack each other.
What I take for truth and proof is the knowledge in the Bible. The documentation. The histories that correspond with it. The stories that have been proven true. I will look up those sites. Thank you for giving them to me.
torikeene: If you don't have 100% proof that Vishnu doesn't exist, why do you believe He doesn't? On a more ridiculous note, if you don't have 100% proof that there are no teapots orbiting mars, why don't you give that the same credence you do belief in god?
Not believing something exists without proof or documentation is not silly - otherwise we'd believe every unsubstantiated rumor we've ever heard. You seem very selective about what unsubstantiated things you believe in, however, so clearly even you don't actually believe that anything with no disproof must be true.
I did not become a Christian because I am gullible as you seem to assume
I don't think you're gullible. I think you're basing many of your conclusions on sources that are biased to only one side. I'm simply suggesting you explore sources from other sides.
What I am saying is, if you don't have 100% proof that He does not exist, why do you keep saying He doesn't?
God's existence is not obvious to anyone, Christian or otherwise. And it's not inherent knowledge. Christians and other theists make a conscious decision at some point in their lives to believe that God exists based on their own reasons and experiences. Therefore, everybody, including you, requires some sort of proof that God exists. The only difference between us is that your requirements for proof of God's existence have been met; mine have not.
You believe something without having proof and documentation!!!
No, actually documentation is something I require before I believe something, which is why I accept the Big Bang and evolution as explanations of the origin of the universe and life. They have both accumulated a wealth of documentation.
The histories that correspond with it. The stories that have been proven true.
Some of the history in the Bible is true, such as the rule of a king named David over Israel, the Assyrian siege of Jerusalem, and the census of the Roman Empire under Caesar during Herod's reign. Other stories in the Bible have absolutely no proof whatsoever, such as Noah's Ark, Moses 12 plagues, and the miracles of Jesus.
tori, yes, if you google chariot wheels and red sea, you will find lots of links with pictures of wheels and such...all derived from Ron Wyatt's unsubstantiated and fraudulent claims.
On the day credible sources are able to replicate Ron Wyatt's chariot wheel findings, we would then have strong evidence of chariot wheels in the Red Sea. As of today, we don't even have that.
You will find science and philosophy strange bedfellows. You have a mind capable of perception outside of the tangible. What is reality? Am I not the imagination of myself? Faith is dissolved by proof. Proof is independant of faith. Life is possibility. Schrodinger's box is better left closed.
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Is there actual scientific proof that god does not exist?
Let me make this clear! I do not want theory or conjecture!!! I want to know only if you have absolute proof that god does not exist. I see all of these answers where people have stated that science hasn't proved that he does exist, but I have not seen...
one single answer that says that science can prove that he doesn't exist.
Furthermore, they have found proof for many of the stories in the bible. I.e. Fish bones in the tops of mountains(noah and the ark), wagon wheels at the bottom of the red sea(moses and the exodus from egypt). I see people refute this evidence. I want an answer as to why. Scientifiaclly speaking. I also would like documentation if you have it.