Does God really exists? Is there really heaven and earth? is there anything like paradise?
I think everyone will know soon enough...
Hmm iammyown06 you really really really THINK that you’re the first or even the last person in the past 2000 years who make this statement??? Seems like religious people think, the more they say this greater the possibility of it happening and the MORE they believe themselves!
I’m am 100% with Toadaly’s Advice! There is no gods and there never were, people in biblical times had to find an explanation for things which were at those times unexplainable to them, such as comets with their long tails of gas and dust. The unknown created fear, they didn’t have the luxury of telescopes, so the next best thing would be, to assume it was sent from the gods. Luckily approximately 300 years ago Newton & Halley has put this Supernatural theory one side and using their brains. Off course they were made out to be Satanic and all bad things at that time, but 75 years later, when their theory in principal were proven correct, some religious people and scientists recognised what they have achieved. This is only one of many examples!
Another one occurred not so long ago, which actually makes me laugh only thinking of it was: In the 1980’s when the world started to implement Bar-coding/mark of a beast “666” was created by very creative imaginations
"Is the barcode the mark of the beast?
A bar code would make a poor candidate for the mark of the beast for the following reasons: 1. The mark is described specifically in Rev. 14:11 as "the mark of his name". Even the wildest imagination would have a very hard time turning a "barcode" into "the mark of his name". 2. In the world of "high-level" security and identification, a barcode is not reliable enough. The reason for the "self-check" digit on the barcode is the probability of the scanner misreading the barcode. The next time you go through the grocery line count how many "beeps" or misreads the cashier gets. 3. Because the human skin stretches, it would be virtually impossible to get the precision needed for a "reliable" barcode. The skin continually stretches with age, weight, wetness, sun exposure, etc. 4.There is much more reliable and easier to implement technology than barcodes, such as biometric IDs or even biochips. 5. A barcode does not match the Bible's description of the Mark of the Beast.
Even today it is amazing how people could read ANYTHING in EVERYTHING if they allow themselves ;-)
Please read the following:
"OK, so if I define what I mean by 'God,' and then logically prove he exists, will that be enough for you?"
Even after centuries of effort, nobody has come up with a watertight logical proof of the existence of God. In spite of this, however, people often feel that they can logically prove that God exists.
Unfortunately, reality is not decided by logic. Even if you could rigorously prove that God exists, it wouldn't actually get you very far. It could be that your logical rules do not always preserve truth--that your system of logic is flawed. It could be that your premises are wrong. It could even be that reality is not logically consistent. In the end, the only way to find out what is really going on is to observe it. Logic can merely give you an idea where or how to look; and most logical arguments about God don't even perform that task.
Logic is a useful tool for analyzing data and inferring what is going on; but if logic and reality disagree, reality wins.
However, assuming for the moment that the existence of a God is not provably impossible, there are still subtle reasons for assuming the nonexistence of God. If we assume that something does not exist, it is always possible to show that this assumption is invalid by finding a single counterexample.
Therefore it is generally accepted that we must assume things do not exist unless we have evidence that they do.
Even theists follow this rule most of the time; they don't believe in unicorns, even though they can't conclusively prove that no unicorns exist anywhere.
To assume that God exists is to make an assumption which probably cannot be tested. We cannot make an exhaustive search of everywhere God might be to prove that he doesn't exist anywhere. So the skeptical atheist assumes by default that God does not exist, since that is an assumption WE CAN TEST!
Of course, it could be that God is detectable in principle, and that we merely cannot detect him in practice. However, if the Bible is to be believed, God was easily detectable by the Israelites. Surely he should still be detectable today? Why has the situation changed?"
Ladyd77 - **That's why there's so much pain and suffering in the world.' ** Hispanicgirl - **why we suffer? read the bible maybe then ya'll actually learn something. ** Tennent - Love,peace,harmony,truth,satisfaction,then why would not Heaven be like that?.
Here is some stats which I have post previously: Major Religions of the World Ranked by Number of Adherents: 1.Christianity: 2.1 billion 2.Islam: 1.5 billion 3.Secular/Nonreligious/Agnostic/Atheist: 1.1 billion 4.Hinduism: 900 million 5.Chinese traditional religion: 394 million 6.Buddhism: 376 million 7.primal-indigenous: 300 million 8.African Traditional Diasporic: 100 million 9.Sikhism: 23 million 10.Juche: 19 million 11.Spiritism: 15 million 12.Judaism: 14 million 13.Baha'I: 7 million 14.Jainism: 4.2 million 15.Shinto: 4 million 16.Cao Dai: 4 million 17.Zoroastrianism: 2.6 million 18.Tenrikyo: 2 million 19.Neo-Paganism: 1 million 20.Unitarian-Universalism: 800 thousand 21.Rastafarianism: 600 thousand 22.Scientology: 500 thousand Totals of approximately: 5.8 Billion Religious people Secular/Nonreligious/Agnostic/Atheist: 1.1 billion
Ladyd77 – Surely you don’t suggest that the 1.1 billion odd Non Religious /Other groups are able to have a True influence on the pain and suffering in the world???
5.8 Billion Are religious, doesn’t it say something about the religious group though???
Hispanicgirl – Seems like a hell of a lot of the 5.8 Billion people then misread their scripts
Tennent - Love,peace,harmony... same thing with you, why isn’t those possible here on earth whilst you’re here, why look forward to something which might not happen? Why cant 5.8 billion people with the help of their gods, change THIS world to be heaven on earth???
As the barber began to work, they began to have a good conversation.
They talked about so many things and various subjects.
When they eventually touched on the subject of God, the barber said: 'I don't believe that God exists.'
'Why do you say that?' asked the customer. 'Well, you just have to go out in the street to realize that God doesn't exist. Tell me, if God exists, would there be so many sick people? Would there be abandoned children? If God existed, there would be neither suffering nor pain! I can't imagine a loving God who would allow all of these things.' The customer thought for a moment, but didn't respond because he didn't want to start an argument. The barber finished his job and the customer left the shop. Just after he left the barbershop, he saw a man in the street with long, stringy, dirty hair and an untrimmed beard. He looked dirty and unkempt. The customer turned back and entered the barber shop again and he said to the barber: 'You know what? Barbers do not exist.' 'How can you say that?' asked the surprised barber. 'I am here, and I am a barber. And I just worked on you!' 'No!' the customer exclaimed. 'Barbers don't exist because if they did, there would be no people with dirty long hair and untrimmed beards, like that man outside.' 'Ah, but barbers DO exist! That's what happens when people do not come to me.'
'Exactly!' affirmed the customer.. 'That's the point! God, too, DOES exist! That's what happens when people do not go to Him and don't look to Him for help. That's why there's so much pain and suffering in the world.' :)
Yes I firmly believe that Heaven and Hell do exist and Paradise exists too. If you read Revelations in the Bible you will see that all that was written and prophesized is coming to pass and like Jesse du Plantis says believing is not a debate but a decision. Thankfully I got saved from the pathway to hell that I was on and God is merciful and a loving God and thankfully His Son Jesus was sent to die on Calvary for our sins so that we may have everlasting life with Him in his Kingdom. My belief is that with all the violence, horrible people and bad things going on in the world Satan is very much real and Hell is real too. We are in spiritual warfare and the end is drawing near. God wants us as His children to be saved and spend everlasting life with Him but in order to do that one needs to believe that Jesus Christ walked the earth and died for their sins on Calvary.
Paradise is where a person who is saved goes too when they die. Heaven is where all whom are saved go too after the second coming (when Jesus comes again) Read Revelations in your Bible.
YES THERE IS PROOF*** :
1st of all-- its ah-mazing that we get everything we NEED from earth, for ex. who woulda thought that a little seed grows into a plant that provides food 4 us.?? it's ah miracle* =] & clothes? who would have thought that a PLANT makes clothes?? I have never heARD of another planet besides earth that has --water --plants/food
isn't it obvious??
it's not some coincidence that we have everything we need 2 survive.
why we suffer? read the bible* maybe then ya'll actually learn something. the proof is EVERYWHERE. & he does excist, I've SEEN the virgin of mary. and it was NOT a dream. god saved my life, my family is very violent ( my dad is) & I've prayed & prayed for peace & it HAS happened!! people that don't beleive just don't get it... I've been abused so many fckn times... and god helped me, he saved me... but for the people that don't beleive-- I'm not going 2 try 2 change what you think if you want 2 go 2 hell then let it be, I'm just saying what I've experienced.
I KNOW I'm right. The subject of God's existence has come up a thousand times on this site, and the answer is ALWAYS the same. Its easy for anyone with average intelligence to understand. But that's where you come up short...
I'm also smarter than you'd ever hope to be... and you already KNOW that. But you won't admit it... heavens no... typical stupid teenager...
You've dont nothing but make yourself look dumber and dumber. You say there's proof, but cannot provide any, because there ISN'T ANY. You stated your opinion, and cannot support it, AT ALL. Your inability to think beyond your pride is pathetic... pride is a deadly sin, remember? Someone who claims to have seen the Virgin Mary (cuckoo), should know that... but no... again, typical stupid teenager.
But please, keep talking. Keep saying idiotic things, I'll keep calling you an idiot, and YOU can keep proving it for me. Your ignorance is a shining example of what's WRONG with theism, and why so many people DON'T believe...
Tennent – would the following quote be applicable to you, after reading your post, I wonder ...
Quote: “Do not pray in my school, and I will not think in your church.”
When the Sun burns out thats when we all shall know.
“Lets' assume because of your interest in this subject that you will live to be a billion years old. Multiple billions years old because that's how long it will take for the sun to burn out. Even if you born when the sun is just beginning to expand, you will have to live multiple human lives before the earth experiences spontaneous combustion. It will be like being born in hell and living multiple lives in hell.”
Surely hope you didn’t think you or even your grand children would experience this???
I never said I don't believe in god... idiot...
I said there is not proof that god (or any other deities) exist; which is true. There is also no proof that they DON'T exist (also true). What YOU are calling proof, isn't proof at all, it is just subjective evidence that (in your mind) supports your BELIEFS.
This issue is CLEARLY beyond your comprehension. But if you want to actually LEARN something about this topic, first you need to understand the difference between...
PROOF vs. EVIDENCE PROVING vs. CONVINCING KNOWING vs. BELIEVING
¿Entiendes? O sería más fácil si he escrito en español?
Does God really exist.YES look around you,even scientist can't prove that he doesn't; everything we know came from God!. Is there Heaven and Earth.Their is something there,theirs a reason for everything just like night and day born and death,earth is are Mother ,everything was born here and shall die here aswell we are sons of dust.When the Sun burns out thats when we all shall know. Is their anything like paradise.If you live for the Holy Bible then your living a life full of Love,peace,harmony,truth,satisfaction,then why would not Heaven be like that?.
YES look around you,even scientist can't prove that he doesn't
Wow... that's pretty stupid. If the nonexistence of something can't be proven, then that means it automatically EXISTS??? SERIOUSLY??? Okay, then the opposite is just as viable (stupid, but viable in this case) If the EXISTENCE of God CANNOT be proven, then God automatically DOES NOT exist. So as usual, both of those viewpoints negate one another, and we're back to square one...
NOBODY can prove EITHER.
I feel srry 4 u
...no you don't... you're just saying that in a lame attempt to be antagonistic...
I DID give proof.
...no you didn't...
I DO know what proof iz
...obviously you don't...
**you can just burn yo a* in hell jacka** don't bother 2 respond 2 thiz.***
...and with that, you invalidate your ENTIRE standpoint... idiot...
God doesn't exist.
There is no heaven.
There is no hell.
There is no such thing as a soul or an afterlife.
When you die, you just stay dead forever - just like it was for eternity past when you didn't exist.
Does reality sort of suck? Yes, but reality is under no obligation to placate our fears of death. We have religion for that.
YES THERE IS PROOF
hahaha "wow" I feel srry 4 u. I DID give proof. & I DO know what proof iz.-- you can just burn yo a** in hell jacka** & don't bother 2 respond 2 thiz. =]
I DID already say it
...all you did was provide random (and juvenile) reasons why YOU BELIEVE God exists. NONE of it proves God exists. The only thing you've proven is that you have NO IDEA what the word 'PROOF' means... because you're an idiot...
itz correct in your own little worlD
Little world??? If perhaps some of you guys would allow yourself to think a bit outside the box, you would be able to understand and see the world for what it IS and not what you want it to be!
itz correct in your own little worlD
I see you've chosen to stay stupid... go ahead, idiot... do what you do best.
what the h are you tlkn bout?? ^
You wouldn't understand. You've made that quite clear.
Does God really exists?
Is there really heaven and earth?
is there anything like paradise?
...that depends on your definition of paradise...
You say that like it matters...
You are wrong, and the CORRECT information has just been provided to you, lolita... take it, or leave it and stay stupid. Class dismissed...
No, you didn't... idiot...
You've said NOTHING that proves God exists. So, either prove it, or shut up. You're only making yourself look more and more ignorant.
I know I'm right, just as I know you're young and stupid.
You STILL don't understand what ''proof'' is. If you're so certain there's proof, then go ahead... PROVE IT.
ok then, in your lil own world you think your right. good 4 u . now-- do you want me 2 tell u what you R ?? cause it does not get any better than "idiot" .
Different people believe different things. Some say there is a God, heaven and hell, etc... And others aren't sure, some don't believe in it at all.
I DID* the proof IS everywhere, maybe if you actually look around u & thiNK !! but o k be the pendejo & go ahead thinking your right when your not.
im an athiest I don't beleave their any thing but darkness upon death and religeons were only thought up b/c people cant cope with that and yes it blows
YES THERE IS PROOF
Uhhh... no... there isn't... you failed to provide any... you may also fail to understand the meaning of the word ''proof''
That barber story doesn't prove a thing.
There is no way of determining if there is a heaven, hell or god. It all depends on your beliefs.
WELL ITS EVERYONE'S BELIEFES AND FOR ME PERSONALLY IM NOT SURE I MEAN THERES NOT ANY PROOF THAT IT EXSISTS?WELL THATS ME PERSONALLY
Tell that to the Muslims, ladyd77, as they were getting slaughtered by God fearing Christians in Jerusalem in the First Crusade.
Personally I am an Atheist and don't believe in any of it. To me, none of it is believable and there is no solid proof.
None of that made any sense tennent. I would expect better from a man of your age.
me I do think there is a god but heyy everyone has there own opinion!!!
yea w/e itz correct in your own little worlD *period.
I think everyone will know soon enough...
your really getting on my nerves *pendejo
what the h are you tlkn bout?? ^