is flyleaf a christian band??
I was downloading Christian songs off of limewire to kind of add to my archive of music because after listening to some songs for so long - no matter how good they are - they all start to sound the same. I had heard that Flyleaf was a Christian band but I had also heard that they were a "non"-Christian band. When I did a search for it I stumbled across this discussion and read along ... There has been a lot of thought put into this – that’s for sure - and I just wanted to put in what I know and think ... It does matter if a band is "Christian" or not to the Christians who are serious enough to read into it deep enough. If a Christian person writes a song and lets a secular band play it what kind of effect will it put on someone spiritually? Of course some people will roll their eyes at me when I say that but it is something that a serious Christian should be concerned about. Yes the lyrics are the most important part but what if the band is just trying to be deceptive and get more attention by being appealing to the Christian music people and everyone else who might have a problem with that kind of music. Think about it, all of you people have spent so much time and thought on whether this band is Christian or not you now couldn't forget their name if you tried ... or people who were undecided before are now encouraged to find out for themselves ... so now everyone listens to it for one reason or another ... WOW ... THAT'S AMAZING ADVERTIZING ... What if Flyleaf is trying to stand on both sides of the fence so they can be popular with more than one crowd?
Revelation 3:16 15: I know your [record of] works and what you are doing; you are neither cold nor hot. Would that you were cold or hot! 16: So, because you are lukewarm and neither cold nor hot, I will spew you out of My mouth!
If they are Christian then they can't argue with that ... that is Gods word saying that he’d rather have you one way or the other than undecided because it makes him sick and want to spit you up out of Him ... ...
I have found out nothing about Flyleaf except that they might be a group that could help me along with my Christian walk. I don't go around and listen to choir music all the time but I do try to think, "will this help or hurt?" ... When someone sits down and thinks about it that's the only two things that anything can do with your walk with God. It's like standing on an icy hill ... you can either work forward and carry things that can help your climb or you can load yourself down with things that will either directly hinder your accent or will accumulate and slow you down to a stop then a backslide... I'm not saying that listening to a non-Christian group will make you backslidden but several choices like that or a mindset saying that it's ok will. ... ... I'd like to say one more thing to the person who said that they had gone to church for a long time, was a youth leader, and went to Bible collage for a while... May God help you ... I know He extends His mercy and grace to the ill-informed but you know what's right and I hope you have time to get your act together. There may be flaws in you, in people around you, in your pastor, in your church, and maybe even in your denomination but God Himself never has a flaw... ... ... ... I am part of a denomination that some people call "radical" because we have standards and forms of worship that other people see as to much. When I am talking to any of my friends that don't believe the same way I do about God and church I always tell them that they have to always take the next step to get closer to Him. When it comes down to it they probably know what they should or should stop doing in order to get closer to Him but are reluctant to take that step because it might be inconvenient to there flesh so they ignore it. ... Lots of people go through life with the label (CHRISTIAN) but never follow the word of God to a depth that a person who has been apart of it their entire life should. They can be as far away from God as the worst person imaginable and have it worse off because they don't even know it. … Sorry I know I’m long winded, I hope this helps somebody.
You say "I'm just a sinner like we all are..." What makes a person a sinner? What makes a person not worthy of "Gods love"? Thepoint I'm getting at is that a lot of "Christian" people tend to be in this dreamworld lala land living in a little bubble.
I used to go to church, I did 3 years of bible college, I was youth leader for 8 years plus a student leader for the last 2 years of highschool. I was living a lie, to me. I saw so much hypocracy in church and in the christian circle it was disgusting. I got tired of it.
I met a girl at the end of summer a few years ago, helped her find her dog and asked if I could take her for coffee. We ended up going for dinner and becoming great friends. Some of my christian friends had met her on occasion, one in particular had gone with his wife and us and some others for dinner a few times. In November of that year I found out she was an exotic dancer one night a week. When I informed my friend of this, he$ asked if I was going to still be friends with her, I said "Of course." He got out of my car 20 km's from his house and walked home. He would not get back in my car. The next day he "I can't be your friend if your going to be friends with people like her." Real Christlike. He was on the search committee for a Sr. pastor for the church at the time, and has since been elected an elder. He ruined my name in the church by telling people that I was dating a stripper, which i wasn't and that i was a regular at stripclubs and that I would probably recruit 18 and 19 yr old girls to be strippers if I had the chance.
I wonder, What Would Jesus Do???
Hw would probably be her friend as well.
Personally, in my own experience, I think the Bible, which so many people spend their life studying is nothing more than a semi decent story book.
I can't say I don't believe in God, I'm here right. I don't think I'm freakin stardust. I just don't have much faith in an entity that i cannot see, hear, smell etc. In all my yrs of studying the bible, praying learning more and more about the religion of Christianity, I never once "heard the voice of God." I got tired of waiting.
What makes you think the bible is FACT?
Whether this band is christian or not, why should it matter?
Quote: "It's funny how Christians always want to know if this band is in their camp. their minds are thinking 'The music is good but will Christ judge me on listening to them?' I had the same question when I was approached by a radio exec pushing them as a Christian band. Truth be told. It's music and Jesus doesn't judge us according to our music taste, it's the lyrics and what we do with them . It's our heart. The real issue is we love the music but can't quite place the lyrics. Enjoy the group and just keep your walk in line with the Holy Spirit."
I agree with that somewhat, but my mom always told me this and I stick by it as much as I can:
GIGO: Garbage In Garbage Out.
So yeah, God may not judge us by the music we listen to, but if what you are listening to affects your Christian walk then you shouldn't be listening to it.
Also the Bible says in Proverbs 4:23 "Above all else, guard your heart, for everything you do flows from it."
So I think it is a personal choice, but you do need to be careful.
I try to follow a 70/20 rule, where 70 percent of the music I listen to is Christian and 20 percent is secular.
And I am by no means trying to make myself seem "holier" than anyone else because we all have our faults.
~A
The fact that this debate.. not the "whole debate", but this 1 post has dragged on for so long in totally dumb.
Is flyleaf a christian band? ask yourself.. and there's your answer.
Are you a christian?
YES: most likely you will say that flyleaf is a christian band then.
NO: Then most likely you will say they aren't
If a band full of "Non-believers" wrote nothing but songs about jesus and "god" just because they liked the stories and new they would sell, DOES THAT MAKE THEM A CHRISTIAN BAND?
Let's make it plain and simple.. I'll take it back to the beginning of my post.
Is flyleaf a christian band? ask yourself.. and there's your answer.
Either way it doesn't matter.
What does matter though is that a lot of the "non-beleivers" that wrote on this post as well as others around the world are going to stop listening to them just because they founf out that Flyleaf is labled a christian band..
IF YOU LIKE THE MUSIC, LISTEN TO IT. IF YOU DON'T, MOVE ON AND LISTEN TO SOMETHING ELSE. THERE'S NO REASON TO COMPLAIN ABOUT IT OR WORRY ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THEY ARE OR ARE NOT.
All five members of the band are of the Christian faith.[14] This faith influences their music, but lead singer Lacey Mosley doesn't necessarily believe that makes Flyleaf strictly a Christian band. "We all share the same faith. And so when we deal with the whole 'Christian band thing,' we kind of think about something P.O.D. says, like, 'If you're a Christian, it affects everything in your life. So if you're a plumber, does that make you a Christian plumber?' "
Mosley said. "I don't know the answer. We're a band, it's part of who we are, so it comes out in our music, and it's the fuel for what we do. And finding faith saved my life. So I'm not ashamed of it at all. And most of our album reflects that."[15]
The band's music has received mainstream and Christian success. For example, the song I'm So Sick appears on Rock Band, a currently popular game involving guitar and drum controllers as well as a microphone. Perfect appears on Guitar Praise, a Christian video game using a guitar controller as seen in the Guitar Hero and Rock Band games.
why does it matter, christian or not the music rocks and its not like playing marilyn manson or anything. they don't have any curses in lyrics and why put a label on a great band anyway just enjoy the music for what it makes you feel. the christians didn't invent music but definitely gave us something to sing about. to be honest I think you can call any band that doesn't curse and doesn't sing about things that involve sin christian even if it doesn't mention anything holy or sacred or preachy. music is music and its how it makes you feel after listening to it for me than the lyrics themselves. one thing that does wig me out though is christian metal. metal was started on 3 fundamental chords which were stated to be evil or from evil source/s. if you want to question anything it would be that there's books written on that stuff. STOP QUESTIONING THE MUSIC BUT MORE THE MOTIVE IS WHAT YOU SHOULD WORRY ABOUT. labels are for intellectuals that have nothing better to do.
Wikipedia's answer:
All five members of the band are of the Christian faith.[13] This faith influences their music, but lead singer Lacey Mosley doesn't necessarily believe that makes Flyleaf strictly a Christian band. "We all share the same faith. And so when we deal with the whole 'Christian band thing,' we kind of think about something P.O.D. says, like, 'If you're a Christian, it affects everything in your life. So if you're a plumber, does that make you a Christian plumber?'"
Mosley said. "I don't know the answer. We're a band, it's part of who we are, so it comes out in our music, and it's the fuel for what we do. And finding faith saved my life. So I'm not ashamed of it at all. And most of our album reflects that."[14]
The band's music has received mainstream and Christian success. "Perfect" appears on Guitar Praise, a Christian video game using a guitar controller as seen in the Guitar Hero and Rock Band games.
Maybe they maybe they aren't. Why does it have to become a holier than thou debate though? Such as amblessed comment, "Compare the lyrics with God's Word and you'll be able to discern.."
Maybe they are "Christian" people with good music with a decent message instead of what 90% of modern music doesn't have. It's because of comments like that etc. that I refuse to step into a church anymore for anything but a wedding or a funeral and even then I'm hardpressed to do it.
Personally I love their music, it sounds good and if it's "Christian" I don't hold it against them.
Are you saying that any song by any artist should be straight copied out of the bible? If so, half the worship songs shouldn't be used in churches or other meeting and most of the other half that are left shouldn't be played because they are depressing...
Just my $.02
'Flyleaf = Good band, but weak, scared, childish Christians.'
I'm sorry, but what a moronic comment. Since when does a song with a spiritual message have to SAY Jesus and God? I think that's your own bigoted theory on what Christian music ought to be. At my church, plenty of our worship songs say 'Him', 'He', 'You'. So what's the problem with that? Trying to say God and Jesus every other word just to make it UTTERLY clear to bigots like yourself that yes, the band is christian, or at the very least made up of Christian members is completely useless. It's music. Not a sermon. If you're that quick to make rude judgements like that, and the rest of your congregation thinks similarly to you, then thank God I don't attend your church. How awful that would be.
I say yes, but seriously... "Why does it matter?" you either like the music or not. you shouldn't like something just because its christian or non-christian. and personally... I believe in god but then I dont but I love flyleaf. I personally think that its one of the best bands in the world! and if you are one of the people searching for the answer to "Is Flyleaf a Christian band?" I hope its for a good reason and not something like because you only listen to certain genres of music. Listen to the songs. if you like them then you like them. if you dont then you dont. I think you shouldnt worry about what the genre is.
It's funny how Christians always want to know if this band is in their camp. their minds are thinking "The music is good but will Christ judge me on listening to them?" I had the same question when I was approached by a radio exec pushing them as a Christian band. Truth be told. It's music and Jesus doesn't judge us according to our music taste, it's the lyrics and what we do with them . It's our heart. The real issue is we love the music but can't quite place the lyrics. Enjoy the group and just keep your walk in line with the Holy Spirit.
AFTER HEARING THAT ALBULM,go pray and ask god to give you the authority to know if flyleaf is a christian band.I heard this preaching at church called digging for god meaning seek for god in your prayers and if you dont feel his holy presence keep on praying and I bet you guys are gonna find the answer right away so I encourage you to do that sometime!it doesnt matter what your beliefs are in songs or artist but what matters is that if it touches you heart! well I guess I have enough typing today! GOD BLESS YOU!
xenos, you said: Why does it have to become a holier than thou debate though? Such as amblessed comment, 'Compare the lyrics with God's Word and you'll be able to discern..'
I came at it from a position of what I know to be FACT - don't know how you read into it 'holier than thou' - I'm just a sinner like we all are but a sinner who has been 'forgiven' by the grace of God / sins covered by the blood on the cross - simple: every person will either accept or reject Him...your choice...wish you the best !!
They are not a christain rock band, though all the members are christian. Look at their website, mtv article- whatever. Lacey herself said that they are all christians but they dont like to be labled strictly as a religous band. Of course it will show through to their music sometimes, but that doesnt mean they strictly christian. Just because they show up on christian statians and stuff doesnt mean they are. It just means that the person running the station thinks its a good song to show faith.
LOL..."Jesus AND God" Well anyway. This shouldn't be an argument about religion. All someone has to do is MENTION religion and this crap happens!!! It all kind of comes down to THIS: What do you CONSIDER a "Christian" band? I mean, the way I look at it, there are two definitions... 1) a band that sings ABOUT God or... 2) a band that has all Christian members.
YEEEAH!!! And Flyleaf is kinda...well BOTH! So SURE, I GUESS you can consider them a FREAKING CHRISTIAN BAND!!!
its interesting to know...but in the end the lyrics will have a personal meaning so it doesn't really matter...to me they are christian because I am a christian and because I like to think that I'm listening to christian music...but to an athiest it would be good music with lyrics that mean something different...people shouldn't get so offended and try to interperet things so much for everyone else 'work out your own salvation with trembling and fear'
I think yes. but does it really matter? why are you sitting there and looking up the answer for the question "is Flyleaf a christian band?" I mean COME ON! is that all you have to do? it shouldnt matter what genre the music is! if you like it, you like it. if you dont, you dont. its as simple as that! I believe in god, but some of me isnt sure yet. but I love Flyleaf. I think it is the best band in this world! I hope you do to...
reply to jemmaa
I am a christian and I think there songs are about god because most singers like taylor swift always sing about boys but in all around me they have words like thickening the air I breath it cant be about a boy he jemmaa maybe you should pick up a bible maybe you can read it instead of wasting your time on crap I mean there are theories that make sense just give it a shot
Yes, they are. Flyleaf is my favorite Christian band. They are awesome. Did you know they're offering extra music if you pre-order their CD through I-Tunes? So cool. Check it out:
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k well if youre not christian, is it like aaginst the 'The Chritian Law' to listen to band that is not even surely Christian...cz Lacey Moseley just said she doesnt even care that if they are or are not...she said the music is what matters
im hindu and I love rocking out to Flyleaf and their lyrics make sense when theyre compared to life, not necassarily god
In their song 'supernatural' heaps of people perceived it as a song about god being so fantastic. But I took it as them saying god is a waste of time. Hm, I guess it depends on your beliefs. I'm sure christians would take the song one way, whereas me being an athiest, I took it a different way. Type them into google I'm sure you'll find out! :)
flyleaf doesn't always put themselves off as a christian band, they definitely don't sing christian music, but their song, "cassie" is about a girl who said she believed in god at a school shooting, and the guy killed her, it's about how the lead singer would say she believed in god, and she'd die for him, too, just like cassie did.
see? everytime you ask a simple question it becomes a battle... anyway...yes they are categorized as a christian/alternative band as far as the lyrics are concerned,I like them because the band always seems to leave it up to the listener to decide how to interpret them... keep rockin' lol :)
but they only have ONE song talking about God...I dont understand the very definition of what a christian band is because all the ones that I listen are labeled "Christian" and they NEVER talk about religion and they are even more scary than regular bands. I must be "mental"
personally I think I could be a god based band but if they talked about jesus I wouldn't listen to them I dont belive in jesus and a far as god goes I belive in him I just dont belive he is in control of my actions I am the only one who can contol my life and actions
Yes they are a christian band, anyone who has seen them live would know they are. When touring with KoRn they mentioned it was fun being around other rock musicians even though they were used to performing with christian groups because they are a christian group.
the member in flyleaf are Christians but they dont say that they are a Christian band. as in they arent willing to go on tours for non Christian bands and whatnot.
their bulletin to all their myspace friends said that they were undecided but are Christians
YES!!! it is a christian band. you can find thier cd in christian stores, they are very open about being christians and they even performed at aquire the fire which is aimed for non-christians to get them on fire for God. i went and it was amazing!!!
I guess they could be considered Christian, honestly though, I don't care what genre they are, I just like the music they make. I mean, people interpret songs differently, so what I think it means, may not be what you think it means...
No.I know almost everything about them there alternitive rock.But they do all have the same faith.you can search up there history on the internet,like I did but I actually memorized it =].Lacey was athiest until she was almost 16
Flyleaf is a alternate rock band that basis there music around there religion(christianity)so in all aspects they are members of the christian religion they just dont consider themselves a christian band
pretty much any band can be so called 'Christian'. just look at underoath. one of the genres of one of their songs is emo/Christian...I've honestly never met a Christian emo. but whatever.
Well they are in as much as they have two labels and one markets to a Christian demographic. Beyond that it's up to every person to individually decided what they see as religious or not.
I went and listened to some of their songs and not all of their lyrics are writen down ... at least not on yahoo music lyrics ... I might just be paranoid but that is strange ...
Sort of. they used to be all out christian. now they are an alternative rock band with christian lyrics. but not all their songs are christian, so.. it depends what song.
Yes they are Chrisitan Praise GOD!!!
Here's tha video listen to what she says towards the end when she talks to the crowd. http://www.godtube.com/view_video.php?vi...
yah they're a christian band. I personally don't believe in god, but I still listen to them. her f*ck!ng voice is amazing.
paramore's a christian band alsooo.
Whats the difference - Music is Music. Do bands get abuse for being Christian. Don't see a Protestant / Hindu / Morman genre?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Fully Alive (acoustic) lyrics, last line:
"fully alive now she knows how to believe in jesus."
need I explain myself more further?
Yes They Are. Ima A Huge Flyleaf Fan. I Seen Them In Concert At Creation Which Is A Christian Festival. Yes They Are A Christian Band.
wow I cant believe this has gone on for this long well I red and yes fly leaf is a christian band and they are from texas like me
I am not a religious person, but I can even recognize they are a Christian rock band... I LOVE Flyleaf and they inspire me!
yea. but thats a genre. you can be alternative and christian. they have all these songs that have christian sounding lyrics
Flyleaf appears both on pop and Christian charts.
I guess it is one of those eye of the beholder kind of things.
well they dont like to be labled but they are a band full of christians and right a lot of inspirational songs.
I dont know, I saw them live that band sucks pretty bad. thatgirl you suck they are NOTHING near metal.
they do not define themselves as a Christian band, however, like Paramore, all the members are Christian.
Flyleaf, Chevelle, Switchfoot, and even the dark metal band Tourniquet is christian. You'd be surprised.
All of them are christians but they are just an alternative rock band who writes insprirational songs
Yes, they're Christian. That song Cassie was about a girl who got shot because she believed in God.
Yes they said so themself, they are christian. But that does not stop them from being hella good.
yes, they are. just listen to the song All Aruond Me. its talking about how close she is to God.
they are signed to a christian label. so technically. yes they are a "christian" band.
So many of you say it doesn't matter but you keep posting about it. I find that ironic.
I don't like the way the lead singer sings it sounds like she can't even sing at all!
Yeah the lyrics to their songs talk about Jesus and God Like"Cassie","Im so sick"
nooo way!!! they got some christian songs but they're too emo to be christians x//
Flyleaf is a christian band. trust me. I used to be the biggest flyleaf fan.
I dont think they are... I guess it depends on how you interpret the lyrics
They all are Christians. But they dont focuse their music on it.
nothey are not a christian band but most to them are christians
yes they are considered a christian band great band btw ;]
I was wrong they are a christian band. I looked it up.
I love flyleaf !!! and yes they are a christain band
it IS a christian band. its a Christan Rock band.
not at all; Flyleaf is an alternate metal band
yup they are.n their music still rocks!!
Yes. They are a Christian rock band. :D
ya, put a christian rock or punk band
Flyleaf is an alternative rock band.
flyleaf is not a christian band
Yes they are, and I love them
noo way its not christian.
no they arent, but RED is.
yes. without a doubt.
Yes they are
Yea they r
you bet
