Why is commiting suicide a sin

Why is commiting suicide a sin, when a person only does it because of the harsh moments he or she has had to face in theri lifetime, and such promises of peace and good afterlife in heaven is definately a better option than for e.g. being raped...

continously in front of your loved ones or anything just purely evil im sure you can think of ? Hence in that sense its the creators fault for putting the person in such harsh atmospheres or to put the person in such evil situations that forces them to suicide, by that logic suicide is not a sin just a way to end the evil commited upon you right ?

You're condemning people you dont know. What if the person was suffering, and nothing could help that suffering? Isnt it selfish that people demand that person stay alive for them? Why do people have a right to your life? You cant stay alive because of others. They cannot be there for you every minute of everyday. They could die or get sick. You definitely do not owe anyone your life. Well your kids perhaps, you put them on this earth and you made that choice.

And suicide is not usually from unbearable pain. It's usually because the person feels hopeless that things will change, and helpless to change the situation. A lot of people go through unbearable pain. But they survive knowing that there is hope for something better. When hope fades, life does too. And you cannot judge someone for losing that hope. Because unless you're there or have been there, you really cannot know what it is like.

Your right I think about that to ,I don't know how its a sin but they say that taking away your life is a sin I don't know why lol it makes no sence but it just is

bc god gave you life and youre fcking destroying it..

id don't know if you realized yet,
but god's pissy. anyhting and everything rubs him the wrong way.
there IS no logic.
it's his way.

From a religious stand point, it isn't the creator's fault. Horrible things happen because of sin in the world. He never created sin, that was Satan's and man's doing.

Look suicide is wrong, there are ways to get out of that situation. There always is. Even if it kills you... wouldn't it be better than taking your own life? Fighting for your right to live is better than taking it willingly.

Even if life is hell right now. It doesn't mean that it will forever be that way. Everyone goes through their personal hell in life. Some more extreme than the other. But there is always a way out.

If God put someone on this earth it is for a purpose. Though we have a choice to rebel against that purpose. However, God will take care of his own, if only we accept his will for our lives.

I'm sorry if that sounded like a sermon, but suicide I believe is wrong and selfish. Life if hard... for some more than we can bare. But I believe that we shouldn't have to bear the burdens alone. That is why God is with us. He will lift those burdens and carry them with us.

Yeah it absolutely doesn’t make sense:

Take your own life and you go to hell,

Allow someone else to murder you whilst you are religious and you stand a chance
Ending up in heaven with your murderer after he repent his sins!

That aside, taking your own life would absolutely go against humans natural fight
for survival and natural instincts. Even if you feel suicidal, test this, by asking someone to try to drown you in a bath tub! I promise you, after the second breath you took under water, your survival mode would start to over ride your suicidal thoughts and you would start resistance!

***….by that logic suicide is not a sin just a way to end the evil comited upon you right ?***

By saying this Gooner 17, it seems like you make suicide out to be acceptable?

I don’t think we must think of suicide as sinful or not. If all of us who had suicidal thoughts before, went ahead and done it, what would this world come to? What would that teach our kids, people would kill themselves over smaller and smaller issues in future (devolution perhaps ;-)), instead of rather learn how to deal with problems better!

I think that suicide is a tough subject , I mean you do have those people that have there religions and believe that its a sin, that God laid down his sons life so we could have ours, I don't know if I really believe that , I was born and raised Catholic and being catholic we are pretty much taught to feel guilty about everything so I mean killing yourself could just be another thing that you can feel shitty about. I don't know if suicide is really the best thing to do but then I mean think how sad it is that clearly they couldnt find there God and had to take it upon themselves to ease the pain of whatever drew them to think of doing this act to themselves in the first place. I personally wouldnt consider suicide a sin, I don't think you will go to hell or anything like that or that God will punish you for this, God/Jesus teach us to love one another and forgive and understand , so for those who say people who commit suicide are sinners, you are no better for judging them, for not understand and not realizing they did what they did because they personally felt there was no other way out. Dont say theres always another way because you have lived in there shoes and felt there pain.

Well, I would also say in every sense of the subject that if you think about it, the people who did 9/11 committed suicide (and also murder) but they did it because of their religous beliefs, so it would all stand in your religious beliefs.
On a more personal note, I think suicide is wrong because it's the pussy way out, life isn't easy, and trust me, the older you get the harder it gets but that's just the way it is.

The creator gave us free will, and therefore doesn't control our situations, or even the way we react to these situations. I suppose suicide is seen as giving up, wasting the life your given, which goes against the 'life is sacred' motto that so many religions aim to drum in to you. I completely agree though, suicide is often not taken lightly by the person, and is sometimes a calculated, well thought out action. In many cases, I feel it should be seen as being courageous, taking charge of your own demise and not cowardly at all. However, it is also a selfish act to commit, the people they're leaving behind are the people that really suffer.

I don't think suicide is wrong, I think some people truly believe there is no other answer. Who are we to judge when someone wants to end there like, thats there choice and some say its the pussy way out but until youve been there you have no idea what its life and not only t hat everyone sees things in different ways, people do what they do because our society does nothing but judge one another, the way you look, act talk, how much money you have, how many friends you have, who your with what youve done, what you like, what you wear, how much you weigh. We as a society hurt people, you have rapists, abusers,kidnappers that have just taken it to the next step but in the end people hurt people and make them feel the way they do and some are strong enough to handle it, some get depressed and seek help ,some are ashamed of being depressed and hid it and things get worse, why because once again as a society weve made people feel uncomofrtable to have downfalls, I think that the people who do take there own lives shouldnt be accused of being a pussy but rather feel and try to understand that some just arent as strong ,somtime the only way out from yourself and your thoughts is taking yourself off this earth. Whos to say that these people arnt finally at rest, comfortable with themselves, they just maybe the finally found there peace. I think we need to stop being so judge mental.

It's cowardly because you throw your life (that the creator offered you out of pure kindness) away due to a whim.

We all suffer in life. Regardless of the many different reasons we all feel pain. Thinking that you're suffering more than other people is a downright selfish thought, which is what many suicidal people tend to think quite often. Heck, even as teenagers, most of us have felt like our suffering was the biggest one and only we could understand it (just to see how selfish our thoughts can be).
What we need to know about harsh situations, is that, whenever we are faced by one, we must first face it, and then we must overcome that hard situation. We must learn how to save ourselves from our own troubles. Most people expect God to help them out of each of their problems, which is why they often get disappointed in the end and blame Him, and suffer on their own, then commit suicide (it doesn't happen often maybe, but it happens).

The secret to leaving a worthy life is cultivating the spirit of survival...tackle down each and every problem that arises (and remember that problems will always arise, always). Fight for your happiness...and do things on your own, don't ever wait for God, He will intervene Himself when He feels He needs.

Cause god gave you shoes ,
to fill em . People are surposed to put em on and wear them - Eminem

I disagree with the comment about people who commit suicide are in more pain, I don't think they believe that. What Im saying is that some people have a low tolerance to pain and they don't have the ability to deal with things.
Being a teenager is hard yes and people all around the world suffer daily but who are you to judge how much a person can take. Everyone is different and saying that they do it on a whim I dont think thats necessarily true in all cases. You say people need to over come this and find happiness but maybe its just not that easy for some people, I live in a small town, 130 thousand and I have seen a fair amount of people lost from suicide, I don't see it as giving up and letting there friends and family down I see it as a tragedy that that they thought this was the only answer. I miss those poeple and still love them but I find peace in knowing that they have let go of all the burdens that they carried. I think when you bring God into the mix is some what rediculous in the sence that God will intervene when needed, maybe this was Gods way of saying this is now the end , everything happens for a reason and I truly believe that if its your time to go then its your time whether your in an accident,disease,murder or taking your own life. You only die when your suppose to . no earlier nor later . They say God works in mysterious ways right? whos to say God hasnt had a hand it. I don't think suicide comes from some selfish evil place, I don't know where it comes from all I know Is you cant blame people for feeling the way they do, yeah so they took there own lives and yeah it wasnt fair to others but I mean in the end only Gods opinion matters and he teaches to forgive, so forgive these people instead of hating what you cant understand.

Well, I never meant to say that people who commit suicide are in more pain, I said that often they believe so. If they didn't feel that pain from the burden they carry, then why would they choose to commit suicide in the first place. So to me at least, it is only natural that suicide comes from a feeling of unbearable pain, I hope I make sense. As for how much a person can take, I do agree that some have lower levels of tolerance, but really, that shouldn't be an excuse for committing suicide. It's wrong to even think that a person can't take the amount of pain that he/she passes through, that is a thought that should always be avoided...because when we think 'I can't take it' the pain becomes even more unbearable.

And the biggest reason to why I say that it is selfish is because they make the people around them suffer because of them. How does a mother or a father feel when their kids commit suicide, have you ever wondered? Well I'll tell you, most of the times they blame themselves...do you see how bad it is? Because someone 'couldn't take it' the people who are still alive will carry the heavy burden of 'guilt'. And that is a very heavy burden, believe me.

I remember I had a neighbor, a teenager girl who was 17, one night she wanted to go party, her mother said no, they argued, her mother slapped her across the face and she went to her room. A few hours later, the same daughter jumped of the window, cracked her neck on the landing and died...let me just tell you that after that her mother was never the same...the woman is now always staring at the distance, almost never happy, and much less talkative. And she still had to be strong to take care of her other children.

So now, I ask, how dare you take your own life when people still need you alive, when you've got people who love and depend on you. When I was 14 I heard of a guy who committed suicide and left his wife and kids huge amounts of debts...how cruel is that? Quite alright, he might have suffered a situation that I may probably never understand, but is he the only one that needs to be understood? Isn't that selfish? Could he not understand how others would feel about him committing suicide instead?

As an after thought, I don't hate people who commit suicide. And quite frankly it is not my place to forgive them. The ones who have to forgive them are the ones who now suffered because of their actions, in my opinion...granted, forgiving them is the only thing that those who are still alive can do.

Think about it.

You are totally right Ty.

Seems that a lot of people are ready to throw stones because it seems they really cant understand the situation and were they are coming from. People who commit suicide are everyday people who do feel hopeless and don't know where to turn or think even if they were that no one would understand how they could possibly feel.

Im not saying that if your having problems that you shouldnt seek help and you should just take your own life or anything like that cause I don't believe that but I can understand that place were your completely lost in yourself.

I'll openly admit this because I think something needs to be heard from someone whos been there. When I was 15 I overdosed on a bottle of pills, my mother found me lying on the driveway barely responsive. She grabbed me and rushed me to the hospital were I was admitted and was put on I've , had to get my stomach pumped and stayed in the hospital for 2 weeks under lock down and observation.

I don't know if I thought that was the answer to what I was feeling or not, I remember being with a friend and we were really messed up on drugs and I was angry about a lot of shit that was happening in my life, one weak moment was all it took and I truly thought that suicide was the answer to my problems, that all that hurt and frustration and anger that was inside of me could just be let go of, that if I had passed I could be free.

I lived that day but came to realize that the feelings I had was still there and I still felt like if it had just ended that day I could move on with my life, in death. I know this sounds weird and most of you wont be able to understand it but when you feel like everything is coming at you and you have no where to turn and you feel captive in your own body that the only thing you want is to released, to feel free to feel alive in a different sense then actual life.

I know what its like to be at that place and its so hard and it takes everything you have to get through it , some are just to exhausted to go threw the journey.

I had people that loved me yes but when you don't love yourself its easy to loose sight of other people. Someone on here wrote what about the families, yeah they are left to grieve and they have to deal with whats left and thats got to be extremely hard but these people need to come to realize somtimes its not about other people, sometimes you have to take things into your own hands and deal with ones self , sometimes people have to learn to let go even if there not ready.

If your loved one has killed themselves know that they have regrets but try to understand and forgive them for leaving and know that they are at peace with themselves now.

The subject has been deviated here. The question was Is suicide a sin? not Is suicide right or wrong?.

The very question of why something is a sin is in itself illogical when the real meaning of the word sin is understood. Sin is disobedience to God. There can be only one factor that determines weather an action is a sin or not and that is is it in obedience to God. In other words something is a sin because God says so period. Therefore suicide is a sin by that standard.

Contrary to what many people believe or want to believe God the Creator does not control anything and everything that happens. First people make this wrong assumption and the make allegations against the Creator based on the wrong assumption. God is not the author of all events because He created us with a free will. We are free to make all choices in our lives and some choice may lead to bad situations.

Also there is a change when you invite the Creator into your life and submit your life to Him. Then He starts to take care of your life and after this whatever happens in your life is controlled by Him.

first of all...

...does it say in the bible, AT ALL, if suicide is sin???

I've studied it for many years, and I have not encountered ONE, not ONE verse, saying so.

and if your going to answer saying suicide is murder, and therefor murder is sin, then look up the definition of murder and suicide.

youll find them to be completely different terms.

Diamond kicker - ***And the biggest reason to why I say that it is selfish is because they make the people around them suffer because of them. How does a mother or a father feel when their kids commit suicide, have you ever wondered? Well I'll tell you, most of the times they blame themselves...do you see how bad it is? Because someone 'couldn't take it' the people who are still alive will carry the heavy burden of 'guilt'. And that is a very heavy burden, believe me.***

Diamond, this is exactly the reason WHY some teenagers decide to commit suicide, because in their minds they want the people who stay behind, to suffer with guilt for the rest of their life’s! One important thing that teenagers must remember is, is that their hormonal changes play a massive role in their emotions and these might let them “think” at a stage in their life’s, that suicide might be the only way out. It is the responsibility of parents to explain these emotions to their children and guide/teach them. I know of little or few cases where teenagers are smiling the one day and the next moment they commit Suicide (the same with adults). People surrounding them (loved ones) must take note of their children’s emotional well being and help them BEFORE they reach the point Of non return!

***Also there is a change when you invite the Creator into your life and submit your life to Him. Then He starts to take care of your life and after this whatever happens in your life is controlled by Him.***

Really Eternal life, what if you’ve invited the creator into your life and submit your
Life to him, and your child commit suicide after that? How did he start to take care of your life and whatever happens, how was this controlled by him? Or would it not
be the natural reaction of such parent, to then blame this occurrence on something
they might have done wrong against god earlier in their own life?

That’s what makes this believe system so acceptable for only one person: god
No matter what happens, he can never be blamed! ;-)

We arent going off topic talking about whether its right or wrong though , what we are trying to establish is that is it a sin. Which I've actually come to the conclusion that there are a lot of close mind people that are very judge mental about this subject.

We don't have the right to judge this people how do you not understand that, I read time after time the suffering the families feel what about them..STOP! What about the people that take there own lives because they are suffering.

Who are you to say that to suffer one way is justified but for someone to suffer another way and commiting suicide is wrong. Usually if someone suffers theres other people involved that have made them feel isolated and and like they cant turn to the people around them.

I get that you people think this is a sin but you are not one to decided this, God decides and you know what even if it is a sin God forgives, and even if you people e wanna talk about the evil side on this , if someone was persued by evil and couldnt help but give in, God will have mercy on there soul because they had no control.

So maybe Suicide is a sin but I believe God will forgive them because Gods suppose to love his children.

Suicide is considered as a bad end of a Muslim (so it's a major sin).
If a Muslim is afflicted with a calamity and shows patience and seeks Allah’s pleasure in that, this calamity will increase his rewards. But if the Muslim gives up (of Allah’s mercy) and feels unsatisfied with his life and thinks that the best way to get rid of his problems is to commit suicide, in that case he chose disobedience and incurred Allah’s anger on himself and killed his own self without just cause.
Allah says:And do not kill yourselves. Surely, Allah is Most merciful to you. And whoever commits that through aggression and injustice, We shall cast him into the Fire Quran(4, 29-30)
The Prophet said:Whoever kills himself by throwing himself from a mountain will be throwing himself from it in the Hellfire eternally, and whoever kills himself by drinking poison will have the poison in his hand, drinking it in the Hellfire.(Saheeh al-Bukhari and Muslim)

The prophet Mohamed said: “Whoever throws himself down from a mountain and kills himself will be in the Fire of Hell, throwing himself down therein for ever and ever. Whoever takes poison and kills himself, his poison will be in his hand and he will be sipping it in the Fire of Hell for ever and ever. Whoever kills himself with a piece of iron, that piece of iron will be in his hand and he will be stabbing himself in the stomach with it in the Fire of Hell, for ever and ever.” (Saheeh al-Bukhaari and Muslim)

He also said: “Whoever kills himself with something in this world will be punished with it on the Day of Resurrection” (Saheeh al-Bukhaari and Muslim).

He also said: “Among those who came before you there was a man who was wounded and he panicked, so he took a knife and cut his hand with it, and the blood did not stop flowing until he died. Allah said: My slave hastened to bring about his demise; I have forbidden Paradise to him” (Saheeh al-Bukhaari and Muslim)

It was narrated that a man who had killed himself with a broad arrow-head was brought to the Prophet Mohamed and he did not offer the funeral prayer for him (Saheeh Muslim).

This is totally pointless...in the end, I guess we're all entitled to think of 'it' however we want it. I'm done.