Isn't using magic against god in the christian religion?

these people are talking about casting spells...isnt that like aginst god? im jw

*** People who drive with me have no idea how I always find the perfect parking space. I cheat, I ask God to find it for me. Never fails.

I guess God is so busy answering your parking space prayers, that he forgets to answer the prayers of cyclone and earthquake victims.

FYI, Randi's offer applies to miracle and all other forms of paranormal claims as well.

I keep seeing the same thing everywhere. 'Magick is the work of the DEVIL!!!'

Newsflash: A lot of your traditions come from old Pagan traditions (aka: witches.). Don't believe me? Look it up.

For example: there is no set date for the birth of 'Christ', so to make Pagans happier about being forced into another religion, they set a date around the holiday celebrating the winter soltice (aka: Yule.) and gave the substitue of 'Christmas'. They took all of the same practices of the holiday and mashed them in with the new holiday. That's right kids, putting up a Christmas tree, hanging a wreath on the door, etc. came from early Pagan traditions.

You're thinking twice now, aren't you?

But, to be honest, magick is a complex thing. Any self-respecting witch wouldn't work evil. There's a rule that everyone follows. It goes a little something like this:

Bide the Witche's Law ye must,
In perfect love and perfect trust.
Eight words the Witche's Rede fufill:
An' it harm none, do what ye will.

What ye send forth comes back to thee,
So ever mind the law of three.
Follow this with mind and heart,
Merry ye meet, and Merry ye part.

Sure, there are those who worship Satan and misuse magick; but get your facts straight, loves. To be honest, witches/Pagans/Wiccans don't worship the devil, in fact most don't even acknowledge a figure like the Christian Satan. Nor do they revere any similar figure.

Personally, religion is a faceted jewel in my eyes. It's beautiful, precious to each of us, and there are many sides to the same thing. In the end, I believe we're all worshiping the same thing, just looking at it from a different perspective.

One last thing before I move on: A perspective of a true Witch and a fact.

A witch believes that he or she has the power to change the world around them, right? We all do. We can go out and do something that can change our lives. A witch may need a little help though, I mean, come on! We're only human! So, A witch will ask for a little divine intervention through a spell.

Everyone prays right, no matter who it's to; a spell is the same thing as a prayer. Every one of us prays... A spell is just a witch's way of doing it. Not so different now, is it?

Hope that cleared a few things up for everyone! I hope you'll keep this in mind before bashing a religion you know nothing about.

Blessed be!

Wicca is not against the Bible purely for the fact that is not even Christian. In fact, Wicca came before Christianity, So stick that in your juice box and suck it--

Just kidding people. I'm not that mean.

On a more literal note, spells are simply a form of prayer. Everyone prays differently, right? Muslims different then Jews, Catholics different the Jehovah's Witnesses. So does that mean that everyone is going against God?

Just because we call it a spell doesn't mean that it's evil.

Spells are, in my opinion, just a more powerful form of prayer itself, since it invokes and manifests more ways then simple prayer does.

And I'm going to not ramble and leave it at that. Any more questions? Please don't hesitate to ask. XD

believe it or not, no it's not
http://members.aol.com/RawnaMoon/bible.html
Saint even used magick. King Solomon used seals,
12 to aquire everything needed in life. It was rumored that demons gave him such seals.

Chaldeans, Babylonians, Scythsians, Arabs practice a divination called Belomancy. Belomancy(in short) is basically making up prophets using arrows. Three arrows are marked with symbols, then put into a quiver mixed. Then one would be drawn interpreted. In the bible Belomancy was practiced by Nebuchadrezzar (Ezek.XXI 21) When he stood in the parting of the way...to use divination: he made his arrows bright.

Don't believe me look it up.

Wicca is not against the Bible purely for the fact that is not even Christian. In fact, Wicca came before Christianity

No, actually it's not. Wiccan at the max is only a few centires, if even that. But it's roots are. Magick goes back before recorded history. Cave men use to carve skulls to ward off evil spirits. Instead of the word witch it was originally sourcer. There are many other things that have been changed mistranslated over the years. I wouldn't trust the bible.

The bible was made in the 1700's, the books that the information burned. here's some food for thought, the dead sea scrolls were documents band from the origonal bible.The bible has been edited re edited, for years.

Christianity and islam have similar beliefs. In islam we believe that the use of black magic is possible but it is a major sin. I think it's the same in Christianity. Because the bottom line is that black magic is caused by the devil. I know I sound a bit potty but the Bible and Quran mention it.

Oh yeah and you can always pray for something to happen!!!

*** Oh yeah and you can always pray for something to happen!!!

True. ...and it's just as effective as magic.

While you're thinking about this, consider: Why does the bible forbid something (practicing magic) that it also claims doesn't exist?

Yes and what confuses people is that there is a thing called white magic, which in all honesty is good magic,, but in the end it isnt its all a lie from the devil

no thatz not aginst god not in my book
xxxhunixxx

In order to do real magic you either have the powers of God or the King of Wickedry (devil). It creates an illusion of having powers. It's trickery. Only the devil is full of trickery. Therefore it is not good.

well it is! but spells and witch craft is just a type of theme thing! so its ok if you like spells or movies like that though like 4 example harry potter, or twitchs! those have whitch craft in them! you can still believe in god 100% and still like casting spells things!! so its ok if you like both!!

~xoxo~
Bubblicous97

no not if you dont believe in god then its perfectly fine

You know in your heart that this is...against God... so, hold onto that. Yes, def. God teaches to avoid this completely. Why?? because there is real power out there, but, it is evil, God has real power too, and it is good. We live in a world that is divided between good and evil... we have to choose which we are going to serve. God wants us to receive his power to do good, and not be led by anything else. The powers of darkness are behind the power that does not come from God, and they have one thing in mind, to steal, kill and destroy... while God on the other hand, wants to help us be all we can be in him. He is very concerned about our soul and where we will spend eternity when we die, the powers of darkness desire to control us completely, for selfish reasons, God has unselfish motives... Choose wisely, your future and eternal destiny are at stake.

God Bless you...

lemme see...

using magic is against god because:

I am the lord you're god you shall have no other gods besides me.

so, if you are obeying that commandment you can't 'place spells on people' or what not, because by doing so you're calling out satan's control in being your god in order to allow you to be able to do that.

nice one with the sarcastic reply, 'if I pull a rabbit out of a hat am I in the same league as the devil'... its an illusion, its not real magic. are you summoning satan in order to pull the rabbit from the hat? no...

and its also bad if you were worshipping david blaine and summoning his magical powers too

Wizards and sorcerers derive their magick from mana, a source of power which is in no way related to God or the devil.

The Bible condemns sorcery (aka casting spells), but plenty of liberal Christians do not consider the Bible to be authoritative, but rather, they view it as they would modern religious writings.

Pulling a rabbit out of a hat which you put there isn't real magic. I mean where you have some intervention where it actually does happen without you planting the trick itself. Simple hat tricks aren't what I refer to as being in the same league with the devil. I think you missed the whole point ,justabloke.
Casting spells are not God's work ,bubblicious97. Play with that and see what happens. You can't run once you invite that stuff in. It's an innocent invitation from the devil to do other things that involve him. Get it? What has happened with those that play the Ouija board? Seek more information.

Newsflash: magic doesn't exist.

I can't turn water into wine, neither can you nor Jesus. That would be magic.