Is the baptist religion the same as the mormon religion?

I am confused about the different sects of Christianity and I would like to know if the Mormons are anything similar to the baptists, and where do the born-again Christians fiit into the whole scheme of things?

The Baptist Religion is Chritianity, thus they gather in independant churches called the Baptist Church, 1st Baptist Church, etc. The Mormon's believe in the teaching's of Smith and having a new prophet and secon Bible. The Baptist's preach directly from the Bible while the Mormons do not. They(Mormon's) also believe in a multi layered Heaven, celestial Glory(polygomy in Heaven), etc. I was once a Mormon whom even cooked for their late Prophet Kimball but now I am saved and I am a proud Christian who read's and believes in just 1 Bible.

I hope this explanation isn't too confusing. It's a very good question.
I could be mistaken, but I think that in addition to the Holy Bible, mormons also believe The Book of Mormon to be God's word. Otherwise I believe they are similar to baptisits.
I don't know for sure. I am a methodist, but I know some Baptists.
To be born again is a term used by many evangelical, fundamentslist, and penecostal prodestant churches to describe the way one's life has a sort of newness, or spiritual rebirth, about it when they come to accept christ as their personal saviour.

Mormans beleive Jesus Christ was a created being not as Baptist beleive that Jesus is:
1) the Son of God incarnate
2) God Himself who came to earth in the human form of Jesus (God the Father/God the Son/God the Holy Ghost)
...once you are saved (receive Jesus as your Lord and Savior, asking for forgiveness of your sin) the Holy Spirit resides in you
...man is born in sin, God cannot even look upon sin...had he not sent Jesus to pay the price (sacrifice) for us, we would have zero chance to go to Heaven...only those who are saved will see Heaven...good person/good deeds will not get you there (ex: the thief on the cross who never did anything good, but what did he do when he was on his cross ?
...when Jesus said 'it is finished' the sacrifice for mankinds sins was paid...the only sacrifice in scripture He asks of us ,after receiving Him in our heart is... PRAISE...see it's not about you...it's about HIM

Everyone must decide for themselves: to either accept or reject Jesus (John 3:16)

To compare Morman/Baptist is too lengthy a task for here just hope I shed some light...God Bless You !!

No they are not the same.

If you Really want to know what each is all about visit these links:

Mormon Belief:
http://www.leaderu.com/orgs/probe/docs/mormon1.html

Baptist Belief:
http://www.baptism.org.uk/baptist.htm

I, on the other hand, am more partial to and highly recommend this site:
Truth or Tradition
http://truthortradition.com/

Hope this helps you

funguy, shangy is right about checking things out for yourself. amblessed, I am sorry to say that you don't know what you are talking about when you talk about Mormons. They do indeed believe that Jesus is God's ONLY BEGOTTEN SON! They do indeed he was born to Mary and God is His Father! They do differ from Baptists on some things but also have some common beliefs. My daughter is Mormon and I called her before I posted this to make sure that I what I thought was right.

Mormans:
By definition the Mormon church teaches that the gospel is the Mormon church system and its doctrine.{20} The church and its doctrine becomes the good news--their gospel.

For the Christian it's not an organization but a Person who represents the gospel, and that Person is God's only begotten son, Jesus Christ. It is the life, death and resurrection of our Lord Jesus Christ that embodies the gospel for the true Christian. Jesus is man's savior. The Bible tells us that JESUS is the only way to God the Father.{21}

By contrast, Brigham Young says: 'No man or woman in this dispensation will ever enter into the celestial Kingdom of God without the consent of Joseph. . . .' 'He reigns there as supreme a being in his sphere, capacity, and calling as God does in heaven.'{22} So for the Mormon, Joseph Smith has become the savior.

Volume One of Doctrines of Salvation says this about Joseph Smith: 'No salvation without accepting Joseph Smith. If Joseph Smith was verily a prophet, and if he told the truth...then this knowledge is of the most vital importance to the entire world. No man can reject that testimony without incurring the most dreadful consequences, for he cannot enter the Kingdom of God.'{23}

Joseph Smith is Savior

Hi Funguy

I think the foremost distinction between the Church of Jesus Christ (Mormonism) and the Baptist Church is that the Baptist Church believes God is eternally distant -- that He is an interdimensionally traveling wisp from a zone called Pleroma, which His existence BTW defines. The Church of Jesus Christ believes that God is near -- that He exists within our time and space and has form. In their beliefs, Baptists rely on the philosophy of classic theisism while the Church of Jesus Christ relies on revelation from God. And that brings up another point, Baptists and other Protestants believe God 'spoke'. The Church of Jesus Christ believes God speaks.

Both are Christian denominations who believe that Jesus Christ is God and in His atonement.

I hope this helps.

Rudy

Maybe the best advice that could be offered here is...what does The Word of God, THE BIBLE say...THAT is what I believe...Jesus is my Lord and Saviour and He dwells within, AMEN !

If your heart quit right now, before you could even turn off this computer, where would you spend eternity ?

There are many differences between the Baptists and the Mormons. One of the biggest difference is that Baptists believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God and that salvation is only through Him. All who believe on Jesus will be saved.
Mormons believe that only members of the Mormon faith, in good standing, will be saved.
Baptists belive the Bible to be the word of God.
Mormons believe the Bible is not reliable and they take the word of the Book of Mormon, Joseph Smith, and Brigham Young as a higher authority than the Bible.

The Bible clearly warns against doing that.

Mormons claim that Joseph Smith was a prophet of God, however when his life and actions, recorded in history, are compared to the life and actions of Jesus, as recorded in the Bible, one notices a great difference.

I believe one is safer to follow Jesus Christ rather than Joseph Smith.

Let's not tread on each other's toes here. I think this might be getting a little out of hand. Everyone's own beliefs are very important to them, which is why this is a very sensitive topic. If we practice a little respect and tolerance for each other, it will go a long way.
The basic definition of a christian, regardless of their denomination, is to be a follower of christ. Mormons and Baptists alike are Christians in the fact that they believe Jesus is their saviour. The confusion I believe comes down to the difference in the nature of God. Baptists and Mormons believe in somewhat different manifestations of Him.

Some more differences

Buptists believe one must be a member of one of the moving target (theologically speaking) of churches that make up Evangelicalism. Members of the Church of Jesus Christ (I.e., Mormons) believe, well, that it makes sense to be a member of Christ's Church -- and we leave the fatal theological contradictions that plague the Evan church to them! Despite 300,000 Biblical variants (and the 30,000 fundie congregations that result), Baptists like oldgeezer say that God's clarifying words are not necessary. Apparently he and other Baptists are satisfied with a God of confusion. Members of the Church of Jesus Christ would never compromise like that -- and we don't believe God would either.

Baptists believe first in a whole slew of no accountablity, self appointed, self annointed leaders -- folks like Ted Haggard, hank Hanegraaff, Harold Camping, Robert Tilton, and Paul Crouch. Members of the Church of Jesus christ believe in Jesus Christ -- and we accpt that he does not change, that he speak though His servants the Prophets. Baptists beleive that god is deaf, having spoken for a short period a long tima ago.

Baptists limit our God to the ink and paper between the covers of a finite book. Members of the Church of Jesus Christ would not have the temerity suggest that is possible with our infinite God

The really ironic thing is that Baptists still routinely practice polygamy (mostly in Africa). Despite some limited practice historically in the Church of Jesus Christ , we haven't allowed that for over 100 years, antywhere in the world.

I hope this helps

Rudy

You may see television ads that present Mormonism as just another 'Christian denomination.' This faith is does not hold to the standard Christian beliefs.

The Mormon sect was officially founded in 1830 by Joseph Smith. Smith claimed that God told him to reinstate the 'priesthood' and that he had the 'keys to the church on earth.' Because of his strange teachings, Joseph Smith was murdered by an angry mob. His successor, Brigham Young, was responsible for moving the Mormon Church to Utah.

Listed below are several of Mormonism’s major teachings that are direct quotes from church leaders and official documents:

God is an exalted man:
'God himself was one as we are now, and is an exalted man...I say, if you were to see him today, you would see him like a man in form...like yourselves in all the person, image, and very form as a man...He was once a man like us; yea, that God himself, the Father of us all, dwelt on an earth' (Joseph Smith, History of the Church, Vol. 6, p. 305).

Joseph Smith will be Heaven's gatekeeper:
'No man or woman in this dispensation will ever enter into the celestial kingdom of God without the consent of Joseph Smith. From the day that the Priesthood was taken from the earth to the winding up scene of all things, every man and woman must have the certificate of Joseph Smith, junior, as a passport to their entrance into the mansion where God and Christ are' (Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 7, p. 289).

The dead can be saved:
'We are the only people that know how to save our progenitors, how to save ourselves, and how to save our posterity in the celestial kingdom of God; that we are the people God has chosen by whom to establish his kingdom and introduce correct principles into the world; and that we are in fact the saviours of the world...' (John Taylor [Prophet], Journal of Discourses, Vol. 6, p. 163).

People living on the sun and moon:
'Nearly all the great discoveries of men in the last half century have, in one way or another... contributed to prove Joseph Smith to be a prophet. As far back as 1837, I know that he said the moon was inhabited by men and women the same as this earth, and that they lived to a greater age than we do, that they live generally to near the age of 1000 years. He described the men as averaging near six feet in height, and dressing quite uniformly in something near the Quaker style' (O. B. Huntington, Young Women's Journal, Vol. 3, p. 264, 1892). 'Who can tell us of the inhabitants of this little planet that shines of an evening, called the moon?... So it is with regard to the inhabitants of the sun. Do you think it is inhabited? I rather think it is. Do you think there is any life there? No question of it' (B. Young, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 13, p. 271).

The Negro race is cursed:
'Not only was Cain called upon to suffer, but because of his wickedness, he became the father of an inferior race. A curse was placed upon him and that curse has been continued through his lineage and must do so while time endures. Millions of souls have come into this world cursed with a black skin and have been denied the privilege of Priesthood and the fulness of the blessings of the Gospel' (Joseph Fielding Smith [Prophet], The Way To Perfection, p. 102).

'You see some classes of the human family that are black, uncouth, uncomely, disagreeable and low in their habits, wild, and seemingly deprived of nearly all the blessings of the intelligence that is generally bestowed upon mankind' (Brigham Young [Prophet], Journal of Discourses, Vol. 7, p. 290).

God has a wife:
'In the heaven where our spirits were born, there are many Gods, each of whom has his own wife or wives, which were given to him ...while yet in his mortal state' (Orson Pratt [Apostle], The Seer, p. 37). 'This doctrine that there is a Mother in Heaven was affirmed in all plainness by the First Presidency of the Church' (Bruce R. McConkie [Apostle], Mormon Doctrine, p. 516).

babtists are a denomination of Christianity. Momonism isnt. its as plain as that they arent even close to being the same.

That's actually a funny question. I am a Baptist, and I can promise you that we are NOTHING like the mormons. As stated above..'Baptist' is a denomination of Christianity. We derive EVERYTHING we believe from the Holy Bible. However, the Mormons like to believe they are a denomination, but if you study up on what they believe, you will see that they derive their beliefs from the book of Mormon..yeah..nothing like the Baptists.

Mormons and Baptists couldn't be any further apart. Mormons believe in a system of family values and laws created by Joseph Smith who claimed to have a revelation and created a new 'bible'.
Baptists belief that you must be baptisted to be saved. (this is a very short answer because of space - there is so much more).
Baptists use the Bible as their standard of belief and the Mormons use the 'book of Mormon'.

The dictionary defines 'Christian' as a follower of Christ. The name of the 'mormon' church is actually the The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. In the name of the church is the name Jesus Christ. 'Mormons' believe that we are children of God. That we lived before we were born and that we will live again after we die. They believe that the only way that we can be saved is through the atonement and sacrifice of Jesus Christ. They believe in the teachings of the Bible and believe it to be the word of God. They believe that Jesus lived and performed many miracles. They believe in the teachings of the ancient prophets. They believe in the 10 commandments. They believe in the apostles of Jesus Christ. They believe that those prophets and apostles were able to receive revelation for the people they were teaching. They were able to know what God wanted for His children so that they would be happy and return to Him. They believe that Christ suffered our sins and was crucified on a cross and that He was raised from the dead. They believe that we should follow the teachings and of Christ because that is the way that we can return to the presence of God through the blood of Christ. They believe that we will be judged for actions good or ill and be blessed accordingly.

If you examine the above beliefs you will notice that there are things that many denominations have in common with The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day saints and those are only a few of the commonalities.

'Mormons' also believe that God loves ALL his children and not just the ones that lived in Jerusalem or the birthplace of the Bible's teachings. They believe that the people who lived in other parts of the world needed to hear the word of God just like those that lived and walked with Jesus. They needed to know how to be saved. They believe that these other peoples would have kept records like the Bible and the Book of Mormon is such a record. They believe The Book of Mormon to be the word of God and it works hand in hand with the Bible's teachings.

'Mormons' believe that God loves us as much as He loved the peoples of ancient times and that he would not leave us with out direction. They believe that God talks to man just as he did in the time of Abraham, Isaac, Moses, John the Baptist, etc. They believe that now a days the temptations of Satan are even more perilous and difficult to overcome and that God would not leave His children with out guidance.

I have met many people with many different beliefs and that its difficult to see what others believe as valuable and good. I think that if a religion teaches you to love your neighbor, do good in all things, believe in God and Jesus Christ, and teaches you to endure and live strong to the end that it is worthy of a little respect and definitely the honor of beginning known as Christians. I know a lot of 'Mormons' and they are some of the best people on the planet. I do not think you have to be a Baptist, Evangelist, Lutheran, Pentacostal, etc to be labeled a Christian. If you believe in Christ and His teachings you are a follower of Christ or a Christian.

Ok. So judging by all the lengthy, heavily-opinionated responses. I think we can all agree... for once...

They are NOT the same.

Now, would anyone like to overexplain 'born-again Christians' ???

tell me your kidding

yep

No those two religions are not even close, except that they both belive in god of coarse! as far as the born again christians I have no clue!

I find it interesting that there is so much animosity due mostly to the fact of misunderstanding. To use the Joseph Smith = Gatekeeper example. If you lived in the time of Moses and lived a great life, but denied that Moses was a prophet of God and did not follow him, you will be accountable for that. It is not like God will clear away every sin even when it was blatant. That is ludacris. It would be like the parents of a child who can never accept the fact that THEIR child would do anything wrong and so they always protect him and defend his obviously intentional deeds. So in today's time, if there was a prophet of God, and you had the chance to learn about him and sincerely pray about him, and then (obviously you would receive an answer if he were true) rejected him, God can't do much else for you because he gave you an answer and you deliberately disobeyed it. So everyone who accepts the so called true gospel in this time, if it came from Joseph Smith and is in the Mormon church, will also need to accept the fact that Joseph Smith was a prophet of God.

Jesus came to seek and to save those that were lost... he came to develop a relationship between himself.. and his creation... He is spirit and he is love... we love him when we follow his commandments... they are in his word... He said, you must be born again... he was the sacrifice... we are to trust in him.. and what he did for us... to aline our lives with his word... his way.. and his spirit... we are to forsake all to follow him...that means houses, land, postitions, titles, families, etc...he wants to be first in everything... that is not religion... that is relationship... if we do that.. he will bring the rest together... he wants to be Lord, of our lives... he wants our thoughts to be pure... and our actions to be sincere...we are to owe allegiance to no man... only him.. he is the mediator between us and God...the man Christ Jesus... a flaming fire... Alpha and Omega... the begining and the end... there is no salvation apart from him...

If you want your question answered by an LDS scholar, you can ask it here:
http://www.fairlds.org/contact.php

Thanks Rudy, I liked your answer...simple and to the point...

LOL @ Captainassassin...

phrannie

When Baptists refer to being 'born again' they are usually speaking of a person being baptized and accepting Jesus Christ as the Son of God and their Saviour and professing their belief in the one true Father God. This phrase is not literal and is only meant to acknowledge the beginning of a new life in Christ and abandoning one's old ways for a life devoted to the Lord. In theory, all Christians are born again after accepting Christ but not all Christians use this exact phrase to describe the event of a person devoting their life to God.

Baptists and Mormons are very different, and though some similarities exist Baptist beliefs emerged only from biblical scripture whereas Mormons propagate the beliefs of Joseph Smith, a man who was thought to have fabricated the denomination for personal wealth and women. The Mormons also follow a book that is a grossly mistranslated version of the Bible that was adapted in 1830.

Oh, and I would like to address 'rudy'- not all Baptist are evangelists. I am the daughter of a Baptist minister and would like to tell you that my father cannot stand Ted Haggard or any other self-proclaimed minister that defiles the name of God for secular possessions or any other benefit one may receive for falsifying or corrupting the divine scripture. Also, I would like to know where you obtained your information that Baptists practice polygamy because I was under the impression that that sin was reserved only for Mormons. Baptists do not find God to be some finite and deaf-eared man sitting on a throne indulging in our pain, but as a compassionate and just God that we have a personal relationship with through prayer and studying the scripture. Do not dare to confuse Baptists with some evangelical schlub preaching under the pretenses of a Christian while he goes around telling people 'send me a dollar and I'll send you a miracle.' True Baptist beliefs are seeded only in scripture, not in the words of some false prophet that glorified Mormanism for personal profit.

no.

Baptist and Mormons are nothing alike. Mormonism is considered a cult not christianity. Mormons believe that they will become gods. Brigham Young said that 'As Adam is God once was, but as God is Adam can become' He taught this for 20 years up until he died and it was taught for 30 years after he died. Then their prophet after 50 years of teaching denounce this belief as false teaching. My question to this is if The prophet after Brigham said this was false, then the Mormon church was not true for 50 years. If what he says is false according to what Brigham Young said, then the church today is false.

The Mormons believe that Jesus and Satan were spirit brothers and God wanted a plan for mankind. According to their belief he posed the question to Jesus and Satan as how to carry it out. According to their teaching He accepted Jesus' proposal and rejected Satan's. In their teachings Satan rebelled because of this and 1/3 of all the angels rebelled and this is where the black race came from. This is on a film called the God Makers that shows what they teach. According to the Bible Satan is a created being Jesus is God in the Flesh.

John 1:1-2 says that 'In the begenning was the word and the word was made flesh and the word was God, The same was in the begenning with God. The name Immanuel which is used in Isiah 7:14 'Therefore the Lord Himself shall give yo a sign; Behold a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shalt call his name Immanuel' to tell of the comming of Christ, literally translates in the Hebrew language to mean 'God with us'

The Bible teaches in the book of Deuteronomy 18:18-22 says this 'I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him. And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him. But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die. And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the LORD hath not spoken? When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptously: thou shalt not be afraid of him'. This is the Biblical way of checking out or conferming whether or not a person who claims to be a prophet of God is or isn't. Joseph Smith the first 'prophet' of the Mormon church made several prophecy's that didn't happen. I wil list a few:

1. In 1832 Smith prophesied that a temple would be built in Independence, Missouri, 'which temple shall be reared in this generation. For verily this generation shall not all pass away until an house shall be built unto the Lord' (Doctrine and Covenants, 84:4-5) To this day there is no such temple.

2. In 1835 Smith stated: It was the will of God that those who went to Zion, with the determination to lay down their lives, if necessary, should be ordained to the ministry, and go forth to prne the vineyard for the last time, or the coming of the Lord, which was nigh-even fifty-six years should wind up the scene. (History of the Chruch, 2:182) This would place the second coming of Christ in 1891, once again history proves Smith's prophecy was false.

3. Smith also claimed the American Civil War 'would be poured out upon al nations' (Doctirne and Covenants, 87:2 History shows this was not the case.

4. Smith also prophesied that there were inhabitants living on the moon who wore black garments that were 7 feet tall and lived to be over 1000 years old. We have been to the moon and know for a fact that this isn't true. 150 years ago he would never thought that we would one day walk on the moon.

There are many more but I won't bore you.

Jesus said to Nickodemus that for a man to inherit the Kingdom of God he must be born again John 3:3, Nickodemus ask him how can a man enter into his mother's womb a second time. Jesus answered by saying 'Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. He is not talking of baptism here when he speaks of water he is speaking of the natural birth, the fetus grows in the mothers womb in a sack of water. Thus we know that for a child to be born the mothers water has to break. This is the first birth the second birth is the spiritual birth. That is why he said 'That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

To experience a spiritual birth one must be drawn by the spirit of God to a place they see themselves as God sees them.

1. a sinner Romans 3:23 'For all have sinned and come short of the Glory of God'

2. They need to understand there is a penalty for sin and that penalty is death Romans 6:23a 'For the wages of sin is death', Revelation 20:14-15. 'and death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

3. They need to realize you can't earn or buy your way into heaven it is a gift of God.
Romans 6:23b 'but the gift of God is eternal life in Jesus Christ our Lord', Ephesians 2:8-9 'For by grace ye are saved through faith and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God. Not of works lest any man should boast.', and Titus 3:5 'Not by works of righteousness which we have done but according to His mercy He saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and the renewing of the Holy ghost.

4. They need to realize Jesus when he died on the cross, took our place and paid the price for all sin. Romans 5:8 'but God commendeth (proved) His love for us in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us', 2 Corinthians 5:21'For He hath made Him (Jesus) to be sin for us, who knew no sin, that we might be made the righteousness of God in Him'.

5. Realize that by puting their faith and trust in Him to forgive their sin and confessing their sin He will save them Romans 10:9-13 'That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus Christ and believe in thine heart that God hath raised Him from the dead thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confesion is made unto salvation. For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

If you will by faith just believe this and ask Him to forgive your sin and come into your heart and be your Lord and Savior He will do so and save you from your sins.

The choice is yours. You can either reject the truth or receive it. I hope you receive it.

I am a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (aka Mormon and LDS). I don't know much about the Baptist religion, so I can't comment on it, but I can tell you this, the two reilgions are very different and have different beliefs. The only thing that I can be sure that the two faiths have in common is that we both believe that Jesus Christ is our savior.

Yes, the two are very different. I lived in Utah for 9 years. Before becoming a born again christian I was searching for the truth. I had the Mormon missionaries come to my house for right at 3 months. They never could answer some of the simplest questions, ie... where are the plates that Joseph Smith supposedly translated the book of Mormon from, and if according to the way that He translated the plates with the special specticles, (he claimed he looked into a hat with these specticles and a character would appear, he claimed that the character would not vanish and another would not come up until they had written down the correct character). If this is so why has the book of Mormon over 4000 literal changes to the text. If this is true and it is documented isn't that saying God is illiterit. Can't an all knowing God translate it correctly the first time. I was told by the missionaries that Joseph Smith was the one the Mormons were looking for to resurect them. If that is the case Why would Jesus neet to die. According to first John 1:7 'if we walk in the light as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with the other and the blood of Jesus Christ cleanseth us from all sin. If Jesus' blood cleanseth us from all sin why do we need Joseph Smih to resurect us. The Bible says that Jesus Christ is the resuection.

ok. I think it's great that so many people are interested in my faith---the mormon faith, but if you have questions about it, don't ask someone you don't even know. if you want actual answers to your questions, go to the church's official website.

http://www.lds.org

there you will find out what our beliefs are. yes, we believe in God the Father, and His son Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost. we believe that they are not one 'thing' or entity' and that they are one in purpose.

we do NOT worship joseph smith, or any other prophet for that matter. j.s. is NOT our savior, we know Jesus Christ to be.

we are NOT a cult. I don't even know why you would think that, but message me if you want more details.

please do not believe what random people tell on this subject. shoot---don't believe me! go to the church's website and find out for yourself. please stop shooting rumors around the internet.

I have talked to stake presidents and missionaries about this. And none of them can answer this question. The Bible say in First Peter 3:15 'But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear'

This verse says you need to be able to explain why you believe what you believe. Maybe you never saw what I showed you today from Doctrine and Covenants. Maybe you don't know just what the Mormon church truly believes.

What I ask you is a very serious question. Most professing Mormons probably don't even know that this exist. I don't think you even know half of what the Mormon church believes. I don't mean this to put you down in any way either, what I mean is only certain Mormons those who are temple mormons really know what deep dark secrets the Mormon church teaches. The definition of a cult is a 1. Community or system of religious worship and ritual. a. Followers of such a religion or sect generally regarded as bogus or extremist. Followers of such a religion or sect. obsessive devotion to a person, rinciple of idea. the object of subject devotion.

The christian church which has been around since the book of acts. They were first called christians in antioch. The Mormon church started when Joseph supposedly found the plates in 1820. The Christian church has always considered the Mormon church a cult.

The Mormon Church Believes:
1. There is no literal hell. Read luke 16:19-31, Read Jacob 6:10 in the book of Mormon It tells there is a literal lake of fire and torment forever and ever. Read I Nephi 9:16 it says the same thing. Read Alma 5:56 says unless you repent you will be hewn down and cast into the fire.

It also says this about those who claim there is no hell.
I Nephi 28:22 says 'And behold, others ge flatereth away, and telleth them there is no hell; and he saith unto them: I am no devil, for there is none and thus he whispereth in their ears, until he grasps them with his awful chains, from whence there is no deliverance.

The Bible says the arm of flesh will fail you. I don't take anyones word I study the word myself to know if its truth or not. I challenge you because your eternal soul could be in danger. I haven't said any of this because I want to slam the Mormon church either. I have many friends who are steeped in Mormonism. It is my desire that they find the truth in the word of God not the works of Joseph Smith.

-yes, we do believe in a literal hell. that is exactly what those scriptures you (justsearching) are describing. interestingly enough, it is reserved for very few people, however.

-your definition of a 'cult' is quite broad. according to it, every religion is a cult. I don't understand why you think we are 'extreme'. what, because we read the scriptures? we dress modestly? we discourage tattoos? I thought tattoos and half-naked bodies were regarded as being extreme. when did that change?

-Christianity did not begin with Christ's birth. Christ is eternal, so is Christianity.

-I am well aware that mormons who are temple worthy are guided into deeper insight of the church than those that are not. but I know what I believe. there are no dark secrets. it's a hard subject to talk about...but I can assure you that nothing cultish, deep, dark or strange goes on it the temple. it is a place of beauty and insight.

-as for your interpretation of 1 Nephi 28:22---there is no 28th chapter in 1 nephi. 1 nephi only goes up to 22 chapters so I don't know where you were looking. do you have the correct reference? find it and I would love to help you understand what you're reading.

Great. I'm glad you don't trust me on these matters. I'm just trying to open your eyes. I DO NOT worship joseph smith. he is not my savior and those who say he is are ignorant of LDS beliefs. And honestly, we're all human, all of our eternal souls are in danger. Being a mormon, I know what I have to do. I know the plan of salvation, I understand it. I just wish you wouldn't throw around things that you have heard about my faith. it's not fair to me or to you. I dont do that to any member of any religion, and I would like the same courtesy. I'm not forcing you to believe what I do, but don't pass on 'facts' about the Mormons. you don't know.

That's interesting you say that because I have spoken with many LDS missionaries and they all say that there is no literal hell or place of punishment but there are 3 kindgoms. And none of these are a place of punishment. They even teach you can earn you way to the higher kingdom.

Mormons also teach you can become a god. Brigham Young said 'as Adam is God once was, and as God is Adam can be. This was taught for 50 years in the mormon church but I believe it was in the 1890 the mormon prophet said this is false. Does this make one of the pillars (Brigham Young) a false prophet. According to Deut. 18 it does.

Would you care to explain Black people and the mormon church? I know they wouldn't allow Blacks to enter the priesthood so in 1977 the NAACP brought a lawsuit against the mormon church and poof the prophet of the mormon church had a revelation and said God told him that Blacks could now enter the priesthood.

You see the God of the Bible dosen't change, He dosen't cower down to governments, but the god of the mormon church apparently does. I am praying for you silly girl that the true God LORD JEHOVAH will open your eyes to the truth.

One last question, when Jesus said He has done nothing in secret, but everything openly, why does the mormon church not allow anyone except special mormons into the temple. What I mean by special is those who have the temple recomend from their bishop. Only those who wear the holy garments (underware), practice the monthly fast and have good standing with the church are allowed to enter the temple. According to Jesus Christ all those who are followers of Him are priest before God.

Baptist religion is a part of traditional Orthodox biblical Christianity, it is Protestant, evangelical, and different yet similar to the Orthodox, the Anglican/Episcopalian, and Roman Catholic traditions. All of those are mostly traditional and Orthodox Christian traditions-and they all claim to be based on the Bible. The Mormons are a cult that say they are Christian, and they refer to the Bible-but their teachings are in conflict with biblical true Christianity. Mormons and Baptists are similar in conservative values, but very different in real beliefs about the nature of God, Jesus, humanity, the Holy Spirit, God the Father, the devil, sin, and atonement for sin. The Bible is the basis for the Baptist religion. The Bible and 'other testaments' are the basis, supposedly, if the the Bible at all, for Mormonism. The religions are not the same at all, once you find what they each really believe. Try looking up a Baptist church statement of faith for your local Baptist church, and start from that.

Study up on it; they are two separate and very different religions.

they're not thhe same trust me,