Have we all died and gone to hell?

Well... apparantly... hell is the absense of God...

How can there be a god... when there are so many bad things going on in the world... everything is kind of falling apart... theres disease, crime, murder, natural disasters, terrorism, recessions,...

death, suffering, starvation, corrupt governments, and so many other things.

So how can there be a God? Why is it that so many innocent people suffer, why doesn't God protect us?

If he loves us so much... then why does he let so many bad things happen?

If he was able to breath out the stars surely... if he existed... surely he would be able to stop the little problems on earth.

Personally... I don't really believe in God anymore... I think that he was used as an explanation... In the past they couldn't explain stuff scientifically:

How did the stars get in the sky?
Because God put them there when he created the world.

Its dumb... so if he did exist... as so many people say he does... why would he all condemn us to hell if we dont believe... its blackmail.

Blackmail that the church used centuries ago to scare people into not breaking the law.. and working and not objecting to things they thought were wrong, so bascially all the people were told that if they were good people on earth... and worked hard... they would have an eternity of happiness in heaven.

Don't you think humans would have been able to detect some sort of existance of god, if we can create black holes, do space exploration, wipe out the earth if we wanted to.

Sooo... I think that heaven must just be like a state... a state of peace.
I think that heaven will be like it was before we were born... Absolutely nothing.
And I think it is hard for a lot of people to imagine that since everything we have ever known has been something.

What are other people's views?

'Heaven' is basically the end of suffering.

I don't believe in god, but I do believe in enlightenment, and when you reach enlightenment, then you will have attained what 'heaven' is purported to be.

I am not believe in god but there is something which gone out from our body which is
responsible for our survival .when we leave this amazing world there is more fun in the
house of god because god call good persons to enjoy and ask him the list of good works he had done for the world he had left out.so it is the usual thing which is going from decades and we are puppets of god so enjoy every moment of life and hope when god called us to live the real life in heaven.I am from indiahave a nice day ok bye.for any other questions ask me without any hesitation

why do we always say we don't believe in God because he doesnt do this or doesnt do that?? have you trully called upon him to help us in our times of need?? God let us suffer so we can go to him and stay in him.. rich people are more concerned about there money... and they usally leave God out so he allow us to suffer.

No one knows the answer. Search up Buddhism. Most buddists believe that there is 3 marks of existance. and when they know the 3 marks of existane, you can reach Nibanna (It's like heaven but Buddhas don't believe in heaven - neither do Monks) Whenyou reach Nibanna you have ended the cycle of your rebirth and you have finished all suffering. Buddhists believe that like... this life isnt actually a life, it's an illusion and that they die many years like millions of them till they reach nibanna. If you have time, also search up Siddarta (the actual budda) He speaks about Pari-Nibanna (you can search that up too)

And to your question about how come god isnt there for us, maybe he is there but needs you tosuffer to be stronger. As if you wish you wanted something and had everything you have, you wouldnt learn how to do things for yourself. But I dont know, I'm not religous. I don't believe in god.

But then why would let people suffer more than others?
Thanks for the replies by the way.
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I didn't even finish reading it,but...gd doesn't care anymore. He only cares about certain people,also known as his favorites. He gives his favorites what they want.

people suffer, its their fault, he made us... health, some people are not healthy, suffer there, some people might be stupid and hurt their self, suffering there too, yeah. its the people not god, and god is real

Im a christian but god dose not condem us to go to hell he loves us you me everyone in the bible theres no plays that he told me if I dont belive in him ill be thrown in hell I know he love me and everyone but there is people that dont belive in him dont like him like Satan hes the one that is against god but its the choise of people if they do want to go to heaven or not when we die he takes all of our problems and throwes them away his paying for what we have done but he still loves us for anything that would ever happen hes our god and our creator

OK then... so he will always loves us the murderers, the mass-killiers, the terrorists... ???

Are we already dead and in hell? If so, then what does it mean to be dead, when we are all very much alive?

Yes, He will always love us murders, adulterers and the like. Like I love my children no matter what they do. When my children break my rules they get punished. God is the same way. He made rules that every one of us has broken and we are now being punished and will go to eternal punishment by our own choice. Like a child who grows and develops his own personality and begins to make his own choices. I can't make them love me but I will try and tug at there hearts until they choose to love me. If they choose not I can't force them. God didn't make us robots so that we have to worship him. If he did our love for him would not be genuine. So then God gives us over to our sinful desires. He will not force us. But wrath awaits for those who don't repent and turn back to him.

good points

I see no reason to take the concept of god seriously when it was obviously developed to explain the origin of the world, give life a purpose, reinforce piety, etc.

and it becomes irrelevant in the face of the scientific evidence.

And yeah, there's no proof of god that's why you have to have faith.

I take God very serious. I agree science and Creation are irrelevant. Science is a wonderful thing and shows us an in depth look at God's work.

There is proof all around us that God exists and also there is proof all around us that the devil exists, that's why we have evil.

If you want further proof of God. Then accept His challenge in John 14:15-21 where He says He will manifest Himself unto you.

And hey if you don't believe in this stuff. Then you have nothing to worry about right? And if I'm wrong then I'll just die and rot. But what if your wrong?

If I'm wrong... then... maybe, I will be damned to hell like the rest of the non-believers... =]

I'm not saying that science is irrelevant, the contrary

I'm saying the scientific evidence shows that creation is unnecessary.

I think it shows that the concept of a creator-god is irrational.

If you think there's proof of god, that's fine.