Gay people and religion

So I was thinking about this today and don't exactly know why the christian religion looks down upon gay people. Anybody wanna answer that for me?

By the way im not gay, but my church of around 5000 people in the service I go to always get excited when...

the pastor talks about how good that gay people are getting shutout of california for marriage and how wrong gay people are.

Thanks

Luthien,

'... Note the number of people responding who are quite obviously looking down on Christians...'

Sexual orientation is not the result of choice. it is a quality that should be considered as one would consider gender, age or race. To treat homosexuals 'different', would be sexual discrimination.

Religious doctrines however, are practiced by choice and the accompanying expressions can be disputed through argument.

Both of the above can be found in this tread.

(by the way, talking about 'looking down'; you refer to REAL christians. Do they represent a higher order of faithful than ordinary christians? Your remark makes me curious!)

Because they think being different is wrong.

They believe in whatever the bible says.

I myself am Athiest.

I couldnt imagine being in a religion where they judge on people sexuality.

The bible to me is a rule book which I dont intend to follow.

I dont have a problem with any religion aslong as its not being shoved down

my throat.

Fu*kkk it (:

im chritian and I look at gay people the same way I look at you me and anyone else.. I dont care about peoples sexuality its there personnality that counts.

They look down apon Gays b/c in the bible it says its a sin to be gay and that marraige is to be between a man and woman.

First let me say this. Most cristians dont look down on gay people. Unfortunatly some do. They are not to be degraded bassed on the choice they made. We all make mistakes. If we all looked down on people because they sinned we would all be looked down upon. The bible says that God created sex and marriage as a holy and pure union. This union was to be between a man and a woman. Please dont think of cristians as bad people because some degrade gays.

people will find any excuse for bigotry...
the christian religion frowns upon several things people ignore today... they focus on homosexuality because they're narrow minded bigots and they need an excuse to justify their hatred and pettiness (how else would you explain these idiots who claim to follow a religion that was founded after a guy that preached tolerance and acceptance and yet go around judging people?)

oh I might add, it's the bigots who find any excuse... bigots come in all colors, religions, etc..

that relativley new addition to the christian bible is just that, a new addition
its recently been added by homofobic people or hardcore religiouse fanatics who beleive everything they dont understand is wrong
but there is nothing wrong with being gay/bi/transexual/transgender, ect
because being gay doesnt make you any less human
however they continue to beleive that its adam and eve, not adam and steve
and that men should only be with women, and women only men
what they fail to understand is if adam and eve really did populate the planet then adam and eve's children practiced insest by having sex with each other
so surely that should be a more talked about thing in there bible right?
but no, its not
theres no really good explination a christian will give you other than something like
its just wrong, god doesnt like gays, ect
if he made you, he doesnt care what your sexuality is
humans are sexual beings
as for me im a proud athiest
and dont beleive in any god

Not all of us look down on them we just don't like their decisions. I don't really care about their sexuality anymore, after all its not my choice.

hey, mister, dont stereotype!! ^_^. lol. and no, I dont believe that christians really 'look down' onto gay people. its just that the bible says that we shouldnt be homosexual, and that God made man and woman to be together, not man and man, and how that it is a sin if you make love to one of your own sex, and things such as that. im a christian, and I dont look down on gay people. theyre the same as you and I, just with different sexual preferences.

Please do not think that all christians are fundamentalist jerks that condemn anyone who is different to hell.
The right wing, fundamentalist christians give all christians a bad name.
I am jewish but have many friends who are christian and they do NOT look down upon anyone.
The problem is that the loudest and most vocal are the fundamentalist nut jobs. So many people think that their attitudes represent most christians, when that could not be further from the truth. If you look at the christian answers on this site, the most negative answers towards others are from the fundamentalist crowd.
In their book, everyone that is not cut from the same cookie-cutter mold is going to hell.

I always get a laugh at what christ must think about how they are representing him. They say that he is loving, that he forgives all and that to have him in your life means that you will want to live following his teachings.
If you read some of the answers from the fundamentalists, they sound more like the devil than christ.

it's not just christians...people are afraid of change because they are so used to something and familiar with it that once something new comes in the mix,they are terrified. my best friend is gay,and I dont care that he is. as long as he's happy then its all good.

A lot of Christians (most?) are hypocrites.

The same people making excuses to have straight sex outside marriage will vocally condemn gays...even though biblically, what they are doing is even worse (homosexuality is only referred to a few times total in the entire Bible, whereas extramarital sex is condemned over and over and over, including one of the 10 commandments).

I know what you mean. There are so many crazed bible freaks out there and they piss me off sooo much. And they seem to be the ones to get the medias attention. The only good words I can use to describe them is evil and brainwashed. They distort the words of our Lord and use it to hurt people. The word of God was never meant to put people down. And I am sincerley sorry for any rude insensitive jerks that have given you a piece of their ignorant minds. Its not christians who hate gay people. Its this cult of horrible repulsive people who dont know what their talking about and they're just making themsleves look like fools. I am a christian but by no means am I a crazed fanatic and a hypocritical lunatic like many christians tend to be. We are all sinners. We have all lied. We probably have all stolen something in our lives. We have premarital sex. We cheat on our boyfriends/girlfriends. We have a variety of sexual orientations. There really is no excuse for these stupid bigots to be judging you. What makes them so high and mighty huh? The best advice I can give is probably just to ignore these stupid hypocrits which I know is very difficult since they call so much negative attention to themselves and seem to enjoy every moment of it. Try your best not to let it get to you. Talk to gay christians. I happen to know many. They will understand you best. Or you can talk to me if you'd like. Im always willing to help. :]

We do not look down on gay people but look down on sin. Homosexuality is a sin, reason for that is that it is an unhealthy lifestyle. What many people wouldnt tell you is that average homosexual have a lifespan of about 40 years.

There are so many crazed bible freaks out there and they piss me off sooo much.
So you believe that the bible is false and you are the one way to G-d? The wisdom of G-d can not always be understood by man, but it should be recognized.

What many people wouldnt tell you is that average homosexual have a lifespan of about 40 years.
tseirpeht werever you got your factsfrom is wrong
and if they were right
there wouldnt be tens of thousands of old gay men and old lesbians

I didnt say all homosexuals I said most. tens of thousands is not that many. And yes the facts are right, saying they are wrong will not change what is. So your wrong, get over it.

tseirpeht - the scientific report that is the basis for your claim of the fact of a shorter homosexual life span was not submitted for publication to any respected medical journal, instead it was circulated on the internet. It is a flawed report using dubious research methods by a very conservative christian team, Paul and Kirk Cameron.
To quote leading epidemiologist Morten Frisch, MD, PhD, DSc(Med)
The authors should know, and as PhDs they presumably do, that this report has little to do with science. It is hard to escape the idea that non-scientific motifs have driven the authors to make this report public. The methodological flaws are of such a grave nature that no decent peer-reviewed scientific journal should let it pass for publication

You base your statement on a horribly flawed, unpublished study by conservative Paul Cameron. A man who has been kicked out of every legitimate medical group and cited in court for providing false information.

The American Psychological Association (APA) launched an investigation into Cameron after receiving complaints about his work from members. The APA President Max Seigel sent Cameron a letter on December 2, 1983 stating that the Board of Directors had decided to drop him from membership for failure to cooperate with their investigation. An APA spokesperson told The Boston Globe in 2005, We are concerned about Dr. Cameron because we do believe that his methodology is weak.

In 1984 the Nebraska Psychological Association issued a statement disassociating itself from the representations and interpretations of scientific literature offered by Dr. Paul Cameron. In 1986 the American Sociological Association passed a resolution condemning Cameron for consistent misrepresentation of sociological research. This was based on a report from the ASA's Committee on the Status of Homosexuals in Sociology, which summarised Cameron's inflammatory statements and commented, It does not take great analytical abilities to suspect from even a cursory review of Cameron's writings that his claims have almost nothing to do with social science and that social science is used only to cover over another agenda. Very little of his work could find support from even a bad misreading of genuine social science investigation on the subject and some sociologists, such as Alan Bell, have been 'appalled' at the abuse of their work. In 1996, the Board of Directors of the Canadian Psychological Association approved a position statement disassociating the organisation from Cameron's work on sexuality, stating that he had consistently misinterpreted and misrepresented research on sexuality, homosexuality, and lesbianism.

But I should have guessed that you would support such a flawed study, from such a flawed researcher.
You are one of those bible thumping, right wing, fundamentalist christians that I mentioned in my previous answer.
Your attitude is what helps to give christians a bad name and since you claim that you are a messianic jew, I guess you help to give messianic jews a bad name also.

'...tens of thousands is not that many...'

Tseirpeht, your level of compassion, and respect for life is moving me to tears...

Your remarks regarding statistics are as ignorant as the uneducated men who invented your morals...!

How dare you judging what's going on in my bedroom?! Your behaviour is deeply undignified!

So your wrong, get over it.

What if your wrong? May I have the link to the website in which you got this 'fact' from please. I'd like to see your proof behind this statement of yours.

I have no idea but I think it's because for some religions they believe that life if ment to reproduce and have a family. gays cant have kids...unfortunately lol. My best friend is gay and he is a great person and I would never think that he's going to hell because of it

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they had a great christian teaching about homosexuality.
JESUS LOVES GAY PEOPLE!
hahaha. yes, I understand that the book of leveticus says that a man should not lie with a man, but it is no different from any other sin. if Jesus died to save me and I am a sinner, then he died to save homosexuals also!