Freedom of speech and the bible

Why is, even tho they say we all have freedom of speech, does everyone object when I quote the Bible? I mean, if others quote other sources it's okay...ie:marilyn monroe, but if I quote the living God I'm not allowed--is this fair?

You want to suppress the same freedom of speech that allows you to quote the bible?
If you have the right to quote the bible, people have the right to complain...

no it isn fair, I know what you mean, nobody wants to offend the sinners but its ok if us christians get offended by it...there is no such thing as a freedom of speech..if there was ALL religions could say what they want, and we could quote what the Bible says, also people dont want to hear b/c if they do their afraid God will get a hold of them and they'll see that they are wrong and they'll have to change or deal with God...its not only you that gets rejected by it, I have to, the non believers say they have a right to say, well so do I...

You know what, the Bible teaches us to spread the word of Gospel and not to be ashamed of it, so you know what I say? Kiss my God loving feet, when people look at me strange when I quote the Bible. Its no-ones business what you think or say,so love it up!!! God Bless!!

No it isn't fair, but it matters not - This is easy explained by the Holy Scriptures. If they hated me, then they will hate you also, Jesus said. - just strive to do and say what pleases Him and fight the good fight ! - what indescrible joy it will be to hear Him say Well Done !!

I second backbyter.

To quote is one thing, to use it as an advantage towards preaching for the purpose of religious conversion is despicable.

As much as you have a right to your religion - I have a right to mine, and I don't appreciate people telling me that I'm wrong in my belief.

People have an opinion on everything and they are going to tell you what their opinion is. As backbyter and ichibanarky said if you're just stating your opinion then that's fine but as soon as you start pushing your beliefs then you ask for whatever you get (not that you do that).

However some people no matter what you say will always try to discredit you and your beliefs. Don't let them bother you. You have every right to believe what you want, just like they also do.

They will tell you that there is no proof of God and then give you all kinds of facts to state this when in actuality no body can prove if God exists or doesn't exist. Believe what you want, and don't worry about what others say of your opinion.

Good luck

***Why is, even tho they say we all have freedom of speech, does everyone object when I quote the Bible?***

You have the freedom to quote the Bible, and other people have the freedom to object to it. Their objection isn't preventing you from doing so.

***I mean, if others quote other sources it's okay...ie:marilyn monroe, but if I quote the living God I'm not allowed--is this fair?***

Exactly WHERE is this issue occuring? Where are you not allowed to quote the Bible?

You are free to quote the Bible, and I am free to mock you for doing so. That's what freedom of speech is all about..

Nobody's stopping you from quoting the bible - they're just exercising _their_ right to free speech to object when you do.

It's worth pointing out, though, that this is a private site. None of our rights to free speech apply here, as we're here at the invitation of the site owners. If they want to stop you from saying something, they're perfectly entitled to: Free speech doesn't mean people are required to provide you with a platform.

agreed you have the right do do so and we have the right to object to that statment.

and we have the right to tell you why you are wrong for objecting the statement, if there is no pfreedom of speech on here and we cant quote the Bible on here then why a\have a religious sections and yes I know there are others on here, but once again if htey can quote whatever then we can quote the Bible, people coming on here and sayin we can mock and whatever...how can you say that, we dont have a chance to say anything so you can, but if I was another domination or believed in the manin the moon, I can quote whatever they say...thats the thing, its not whether or not you mock or whatever, its bein able to say bout God's love, wats wrong wit someon sayin God loves you, it says it right here in John 3:16, that offends people but if some buddah person said something its ok...no it isn...im not sayin they cant talk or whatever, but they should have the same restrictions that Chrisitian people do...this country )US) was found on Christ and now the government wants to do away wit Him...they need to get right and if they dont, id hate to be them when they come face to face wit God

***...and we have the right to tell you why you are wrong for objecting the statement...***

RIGHT. Everybody gets to object to what they want, on both sides... a.k.a. freedom of speech. So why was this subject even brought up?

***if there is no pfreedom of speech on here and we cant quote the Bible on here ***

...you... JUST established that there IS freedom of speech here. Maybe you should slow down and THINK about what you're ranting over.

***this country )US) was found on Christ ***

WRONG

***the government wants to do away wit Him...they need to get right and if they dont, id hate to be them when they come face to face wit God***

Congrats... you're officially a 'religion abuser' (a.k.a. the REASON why Christians are so divided, and have such a bad reputation) ...and an idiot...

I don't think God wants us to debate what we believe in. It's more about spreading the Gospel if you feel that' s your calling. Knowing He is with you throughout your spiritual journey.

Yet, as you can see people will speak out and that comes with the territory. I just think don't take it personal it's not against you anymore it's more of a problem to people because of whot/what you believe in. In the long run we'll see or not, the fruit of the seed that we plant. Keep strong and stick to what you believe in. I like to think I respect others beliefs, therefore, I can only ask for the same in return. God bless.

They don't ALL act that way. But the ones that do... are more memorable...

***I don't think God wants us to debate what we believe in***
I agree he'd rather we be ignorant ...o wait that would be the church

Ladies and Gents, we have a winner for longest run-on sentence...

and we have the right to tell you why you are wrong for objecting the statement, if there is no pfreedom of speech on here and we cant quote the Bible on here then why a\have a religious sections and yes I know there are others on here, but once again if htey can quote whatever then we can quote the Bible, people coming on here and sayin we can mock and whatever...how can you say that, we dont have a chance to say anything so you can, but if I was another domination or believed in the manin the moon, I can quote whatever they say...thats the thing, its not whether or not you mock or whatever, its bein able to say bout God's love, wats wrong wit someon sayin God loves you, it says it right here in John 3:16, that offends people but if some buddah person said something its ok...no it isn...im not sayin they cant talk or whatever, but they should have the same restrictions that Chrisitian people do...this country )US) was found on Christ and now the government wants to do away wit Him...they need to get right and if they dont, id hate to be them when they come face to face wit God

Take a breath and THINK about what you are trying to say, it might help.

This country was NOT founded on Christ.
and you think the government wants to do away with Christ?
No One stands a chance of being elected president unless they are christian.

I grow so terribly weary of many of the christians crying about lost rights.
EXACTLY what rights have you lost?

ACTUALLY, you ARE WRONG--THIS COUNTRY WAS FOUNDED ON CHRIST--READ GEORGE WASHINGTON'S, THOMAS JEFFERSON, OR LINCOLN'S DIARIES--YOU WILL FIND THEY NOT ONLY MENTION GOD, BUT ALSO SPECIFY WHO--JESUS CHRIST. I HAVE A CUZN THAT USED TO TALK DOWN ON CHRISTIANS LIKE SOME OF YOU, AND NOW HE IS ONE...I PRAY THE SAME FOR ALL OF YOU...NO ARGUMENTS HERE--I CAN ONLY GIVE you THE WORD WHEN you ASK ME FOR IT ON HERE...THAT IS A RULE ASK THE DUDE.---

Please do not tell me that you think Lincoln was one of the founders of this country?
You, my dear, are wrong in your statement regarding this country being founded on Christ.

The United States became one of the first countries in the world to enact freedom of religion by way of a separation of church and state.

The framers of the United States Constitution rejected any religious test for office, and the First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution specifically denied the central government any power to enact any law respecting either an establishment of religion, or prohibiting its free exercise.

Quote from Jefferson
History, I believe, furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil government. This marks the lowest grade of ignorance, of which their political as well as religious leaders will always avail themselves for their own purpose. --- Thomas Jefferson to Baron von Humboldt, 1813

Quote from Benjamin Franklin
I wish it (Christianity) were more productive of good works ... I mean real good works ... not holy-day keeping, sermon-hearing ... or making long prayers, filled with flatteries and compliments despised by wise men, and much less capable of pleasing the Deity.--- Benjamin Franklin, Works, Vol. VII, p. 75

Quote from John Adams
I almost shudder at the thought of alluding to the most fatal example of the abuses of grief which the history of mankind has preserved--the Cross. Consider what calamities that engine of grief has produced! --- John Adams, letter to Thomas Jefferson

Quote from Thomas Paine
Here it is that the religion of Deism is superior to the Christian Religion. It is free from all those invented and torturing articles that shock our reason or injure our humanity, and with which the Christian religion abounds. Its creed is pure, and sublimely simple. It believes in God, and there it rests.

Quote from James Madison
What influence, in fact, have ecclesiastical establishments had on society? In some instances they have been seen to erect a spiritual tyranny on the ruins of the civil authority; on many instances they have been seen upholding the thrones of political tyranny; in no instance have they been the guardians of the liberties of the people. Rulers who wish to subvert the public liberty may have found an established clergy convenient auxiliaries. A just government, instituted to secure and perpetuate it, needs them not. --- James Madison, A Memorial and Remonstrance, 1785

About George Washington
The name of Jesus Christ is NOT mentioned even once in the vast collection of Washington's published letters. He refers to Providence in numerous letters, but he used the term as a synonym for Destiny or Fate. Bishop White, who knew him well for many years, wrote after Washington's death that he had never heard him express an opinion on any religious subject. He added that although Washington was serious and attentive in church, he never saw him kneel in prayer.

And why in the world would I ask to hear the word from someone who carries and voices such obvious disdain for non-christians, who doesn't understand the very basis for the founding of our country and who spells cousin, cuzn.

I am jewish and WOULD NEVER ask for the word from someone so narrow-minded.
What a great witness! Give the word to someone else. You have already shown me your example of the word and you typed it in ALL CAPITALS!

And as for Lincoln, though not a founder of this country as you indicate:
Abraham Lincoln's religious beliefs are a matter of controversy. Lincoln frequently referenced God and quoted the Bible, yet never joined any church. He was particularly secretive about his beliefs and respected the beliefs of others.

Oh No, better leave him off your list. Lincoln RESPECTED the beliefs of others.

ACTUALLY I TYPED IN ALL CAPS SO I COULD SCROLL DOWN TO READ WHEN SOMEONE WENT OFF LIKE you JUST DID... AND YES, I CONSIDER ALL OF OUR FOREFATHER'S OPINIONS AND TOLERANCES WHEN I LOOK AT OUR COUNTRY--CHRISTIANITY WAS DERIVED FROM THE JEWS, SO I RESPECT YOUR BELIEF MORE THAN you COULD EVEN UNDERSTAND...AND AS FOR THE QUOTES YOU GAVE--THEY WERE CLEARLY DIVIDING CHURCH AND STATE B/C OF PAST ABUSES OF POWER BY THE CHURCHES IN ENGLAND AND ROME...THERE IS A CLEAR DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A RELIGIOUS PERSON AND A TRUE CHRISTIAN--ONE WHO HAS A RELATIONSHIP WITH AND TRIES TO BECOME MORE LIKE CHRIST...I AM NOT HERE TO ARGUE OR CUT DOWN OTHERS, AND I USE LOTS OF WORDS THAT YOU MIGHT OBJECT TO--BUT HE IS STILL MY FAVE CUZN... PS--HE USED TO BE GAY TOO...GOD DELIVERED HIM...WITH GOD ALL THINGS ARE POSSIBLE...

I can feel the respect...

utopia pretty conclusively showed your original claim - that the US was founded on christ to be false. Why that's the case is pretty much irrelevant. I'd also like to join with him in saying: You thought lincoln was a founder? That doesn't lend you much credibility.

And you're typing your entire message in capitals because it makes it slightly easier for you to find it? It makes it a lot harder for all of us to _read_ it. Learn to use the search function and you can stop looking like an idiot.