Who will go to heaven and hell?

Lets say one man goes and blows up 10 000 people, he is caught by the police and after the court case he gets a death sentence. In the time he waits for the death sentence, a priest talks to him about God and he starts to believe in God and love those...

around him and really feels sorry for what he has done and asks God foregiveness for all the sins he has commited. He is truly a reborn christian. According to the bible this guy will go to heaven.

Then there is a guy who has never believed in God, and has never accepted God into his heart or thanked him for what he has been given. But this guy is one of the nicest guys you will ever meet. He lives according to the rules of society, he loves his wife and his family and everyone he knows, he has started charity organisations which have helped thousands, he is genuenly a nice guy, but he doesn't believe in God. According to the bible he will go to hell.

What are your opinions on this?

That is why I believe in God but not in hell or the bible.

Just becasue you dont believe in god you shudnt go to hell. you can be a nice person as you showed above without believing in God. you shouldnt have to base your life around beliveing in god you should just be the best version of urself that you possibly can x

The first man that accepted god into his life will go to heaven.

The other man will not. apparently hasn't accepted god into his life.

So yeah, I'm agnostic, I prefer to not be anything right now. Doesn't mean I don't believe. And Yeah, If I died right now, I'd go to hell. Eventually I'll figure it out, just not right now.

This is why I HATE the Christian relgion - because according to the bible, since the first man who kills 10,000 people asked for forgiveness, he is supposed to go to Heaven.

While the man who has lived his life so wonderfully and helped so many people - is supposed to go to hell because he did no believe in God.

Absolutely Ridiculous.

According to Christianity the first will go to heaven. The 2nd to hell cause the only unforgivable is denying God. This is one of many aspects of Christianity that doesn't make since. The first could have killed as many people as possible and still would have made it to heaven.

The truth is that neither heaven or hell really exist. So neither will enter heaven.

The thing is both men have sinned against G-d, no man is without sin. For example G-d said you shouldnt lie, then one man tells another a lie. That is a sin. If G-d said even if you think about sin, it is considered a sin against G-d. So even if you havent killed anyone, according to G-d you did it in your heart. Another sin. The point is that no one is perfect. Now when you compare it to the man who has blown up 10000 people it seems small. G-d promised however that all who ask shall be forgiven. They shall be made new. One man asked G-d to clean him, the other did not so there was no place for him.
Yes it is difficult to understand but G-d set rules, he loves both men the same. He made the invetation, gave it to both men, only one showed up. It is not G-d that keeps you from getting into heaven, it is yourself.

personally I HATE this part of the majority of religion
its so...well...wrong
believe in god ( not buddah, hindu gods, etc. ) or you will go to hell
you can be a great person but if you are not a believer in God then you will face reribution
theres other issues too but too many to begin to mention right now lol
...wtf?!

Mormon's = Heaven

This is one of many reasons why the Bible is NOT believable...

It's obvious from reading the entire Bible that heaven and hell are manmade concepts. The Bible is vague about what they are supposed to be, and about who will actually go where, at what time. It's not even worth paying attention to.

im catholic but I kindaaa believe that even if you dont believe in god, but you are a good person, you'll go to heaven.
I don't know thats just me
I cant really see god punishing someone for being a good person

This is exactly the way they brainwash people. Because if belief is not a requirement for entrance into heaven, then what difference does it make if you don't follow their religion? If the only way to heaven is to believe, then you are risking heaven if you don't. If they ever admiited that just being a good person is all you need to get in, and belief is not required, then church memberships would be completely decimated in a short time.

Why would god be so vain that he requires people to believe in him? Doesn't sound like a perfect being to me. Sound like a pretty evil, egotistical bastard to me.

The killer who lived his entire life against god, repents in jail and goes to heaven.

The man who helps others, is unselfish, honors his parents, doesn't lie cheat or steal and who has lived his entire life doing good, but doesn't believe in god, goes to hell.

Yep, sounds fair to me.

This is not my opinion, it is what God says in His word.

It IS only your opinion that these are actually the word of god. How could you possibly KNOW that it is? And do you believe everything you read?

I've long thought that even if heaven and hell did exist, the company in hell would be much better, for the exact reasons you outlined.

Well, only a few religions adhere to the policy that even last minute reborn-ness will get ya thru the pearly gates no matter how bad your behavior...frankly, I'll follow the ones that believe good works will get you there...

Since it's religion, you can believe whatever you like...

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ok. according to what I've been taught,you can't go to heaven unless you have a personal relationship with jesus christ. I don't remeber where this is from but:I am the way,the truth and the life,NO ONE comes to the father except through me. so,The first guy would go to heaven,and the second guy won't. god is willing to forgive anything you or anyone else does,if they except him,and truly believe in him. so the first guy would go to heaven and the other guy,even though he was a nice guy,he's going to hell.

hope I helped

yeah, it's fact according to bible thumpers.
That's as screwy as a serial killer converting the last few days of his life, gettin gall his sins cleared up going ot heaven
a nun dedicatn gher entire life to Jesus the bible, yet doubts it for the last few minuest of her life then goes to hell.
screwy, but the bible thumpers thin kthat

*[...What are your opinions on this?]

***Why are you asking such a question of us when you could go straight to the highest authority Himself [I.e., Jesus Christ] and get the answer? Here's is what He said:
(1) Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the Kingdom of God [John 3:3]...and again
(2) Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world. I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins [John 8:23-24].

From what you told us, it is hard to tell if the FIRST man was saved. You said he starts to believe in God...was sorry for his sins and asks God to forgive his sins...and starts to love all those around him. This does NOT mean that he has had a truly born again experience even though it was an emotional one...especially knowing that he was going to die as punishment for his crime. a lot of men on death row feel sorry for their sins...love all their cellmates and ask God to forgive their sins...but this does NOT mean that they have been born again.

To be saved (that is, to have a true born again experience)...a person must see himself for what he really is...a sinner...For ALL have sinned and fall short of the glory of God [Romans 3:23]. They must REPENT (turn away from their sins). Repentance is not making a resolution to do better and it is not conviction (sorrow) of sin...for a person can be convinced that he is wrong and still not repent. Repentance is a CHANGE of mind...a CHANGE of heart...and it results in a CHANGE of action [Acts 3:19, 20;Isaiah 55:7].

Too, a person must trust in the COMPLETED WORK that Jesus Christ accomplished FOR them on the cross...that He TOOK THEIR PLACE on the cross...died for THEIR sins (although He never sinned) and was RESURRECTED BODILY from the dead [Romans 10:8-11;Hebrews 10:10-13].

Salvation is a GIFT of God and they cannot EARN it by their good works [Ephesians 2:8,9]. God gives it to them FREE when they place our FAITH in the COMPLETED work of the Lord Jesus Christ as the SATISFACTION (or payment) for their sins [Romans 6:23]. He died as their SUBSTITUTE and took the PUNISHMENT for THEIR sins upon Himself (even though He never sinned) and became THEIR SACRIFICE to satisfy the righteousness required by God [1 John 2:2].

Now because salvation is a GIFT that God offers them freely...they must RECEIVE it (Revelations 3:20;John 1:12,13) to be saved...that is, they must reach out in faith and receive the GIFT of God (Jesus Christ).

To be saved from the consequences of their sins they must now receive Jesus Christ (who is God's GIFT to them) PERSONALLY as their Lord and Saviour by faith and trust in His COMPLETED work for them on Calvary's cross.

Rejection of God's provision of salvation THROUGH the Lord Jesus Christ is eternal DEATH in HELL [1 John 5:10-13]. This is the choice EVERY person has to make...for Jesus Christ is the ONLY Saviour for sinful man.

I cannot determine if the FIRST man had a truly born again experience...only he and God know that...for only God knows his heart. However, I know of a CERTAINTY that the SECOND man was NOT saved and will perish in HELL for He believed NOT that Jesus Christ is the Messiah Saviour [1 John 5:10-13].

Avim

But then it isn't fair. Why should someone good perish just because they don't believe in God. So basically what you are telling me is that I can go and kill a lot of people and then I have to truly repent my sins and I will end up in heaven. What is the point then of living a good life then?

*[But then it isn't fair...]

***You are not God...so you don't get to decide what is fair and what isn't.

*[...Why should someone good perish just because they don't believe in God...]

***Because the good someone that you are talking about is NOT good at all:
(1)We are ALL born sinners and, as such, will perish if our sins are not forgiven: Behold, I was shapen on INIQUITY, and in SIN did my mother conceive me [Psalm 51:5]...For ALL have sinned and fall short of the glory of God [Romans 3:23]...As it is written, there is NONE righteous, no, NOT ONE: There is NONE that understandeth, there is NONE that seeketh after God [Romans 3:10-11].
(2) None of the things that your good someone has done has any merit with God because he is a sinner who REJECTS God in his life and, as such, is UNRIGHTEOUS in the eyes of the God that he REJECTS...and, as a consequence, anything that he has done or will ever do are as FILTHY rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away [Isaiah 64:6].
(3) BOTTOM-LINE: Your friend is NOT good...he is an unrepentant sinner who rejects God...and all of his self-righteousness are as filthy rags before our righteous God with which we have to do.

Avim