The lds (mormon) religion...

I was wondering why do people have such a problem with people of the LDS faith?

Lots of answers here: http://www.funadvice.com/q/...

I ve know idea at all cause I don't even know what LDA faith is all about?
anyway, could you explain more to me if you don't mind.
THANKS GOD BLESS

Well... you know how the Christians took the Hebrew Bible, and added stuff to it, thus making the Christian (a.k.a. Holy) Bible.

The Mormans (a.k.a. LDS a.k.a. Latter Day Saints) took the CHRISTIAN Bible, and added stuff to it (not literally). The exrta stuff is in a separate book called the Book Of Mormon.

The also have prophets alive today in their religious infastructure; who can receive new rules, rituals, or instructions DIRECTLY from God himself.

we also believe in the godhead, not trinity, and personal revelation. actually...there is a whole myriad of reasons why people litterally hate us. anyways, for more about what we believe, you can go to www (dot) lds (dot) org. that's the offical website of the church.

ps...we ARE christian...

oh, thanks everyone for you re explanations
it helped me understand it a bit more
GOD BLESS

Okay well I am Mormon and I really don't know why we get such a bad rap either. I think people are just ignorant.

Cause they go around on
bikes and try to force people
into things. plus they tell
people to come to their
church but WILL NOT
touch ours with a 100
foot stick. And its kinda
cult like. And a bunch of
other reasons I dont feel
like typeing.

THEY [MORMONS] ARE A WALKING EXAMPLE OF CONTRADICTION

I'm not a Mormon, but wife is... which pretty much makes me a Mormon.

However, your rambling condemnation of their church could basically directed at any Christian church, including your own. Just substitute your favorite prophet (or Jesus for that matter) for Joseph Smith, and the logic holds true. There's not a single Christian church today that follows all the tenets of the early Christian churches, nor do they even follow all of Jesus' supposed teachings. Heck, you can't even agree amongst yourselves fairly basic, fundamental things like when the Sabbath should be observed (technically, Sunday is NOT the Sabbath). Here's a teaching I bet you don't obey (nor should you): Jesus believed in stoning to death disobedient children - see Deut 21:18-21 and Matt 15:3-4 and Mark 7:9-13. And besides, I'd like to see you even try to follow all the teachings in the Bible - ha ha ha, you'd have to follow contradictory statements. And to really understand what was going on in the Bible, you'd also have to learn the original languages of the Bible, because the current translations are full of errors (it's not thou shalt not kill, it's you shall not murder, for example). You'd also have to become experts on the cultures that produced the biblical works, to understand them in their full context.

The fact is, Mormonism has more proof of its validity than any other Christian denomination. Whereas with the Bible, we literally have no idea who most of the Biblical authors were, we know exactly who Joseph Smith was, and who his fellow LDS founders were, and can see their testimonies of seeing the gold plates that the Book of Mormon supposedly came from, and their testimonies of seeing God and Jesus and some of the prophets, and so on. And we can base our belief or non-belief about their testimony based on who they were and the lives they lead. We have no such ability with the Bible, as most of it was written and re-written and re-transcribed and re-translated by nameless, faceless ancient and modern scribes.

As for Joseph Smith, I don't believe that he was a prophet, but I believe that HE believed that he was a prophet. Were he a true fraud, were he a charlatan, he would have high-tailed it out of town at the first sign of trouble with the wolves at the gates. His life was constantly threatened, he was jailed numerous times on trumped up charges, and still he returned time and again to lead the Mormon people; and, ultimately, he died for his faith.

In truth, the greatest anti-mormonism comes from the days of the early Mormon church. First of all, people in this country haven't always treated people of differing religions kindly. Catholics were for a long time ostracized - in pre-Revolutionary northern colonies, they couldn't vote nor take part in government! So here's this upstart young man who calls himself a prophet, and claims that all other churches are false. Well, no consider yourself a preacher of the other, established religions - you of course start telling your congregation that Smith is a liar and a fraud and a spawn of Satan, etc.

Beyond that, though, the Mormons found trouble in Missouri because most of them were from Northern states, and Missouri was a slave state. The Mormons were prosperous, and they started gobbling up land in western Missouri. They also claimed (and still do) that the New Jerusalem would be coming to western Missouri (Independence, to be exact). This infuriated the pro-slavery folks in MO, and the Governor at the time actually enacted an extermination order against Mormons, to either kill or drive all Mormons out of the state... a execution order that wasn't removed from the law books until 1976!!!

After that, the Mormons escaped to IL, where they were welcomed... for awhile. They became very prosperous in a city renamed by Joseph Smith to Nauvoo. Indeed, at the height of Mormon settlement there, Nauvoo rivaled Chicago in size, population and began to be a political powerhouse. This became a political threat to those in power in Illinois, and people in the communities surrounding Nauvoo became jealous and incensed at the prosperity and political/military might of Nauvoo (Joseph Smith was captain of the Nauvoo Legion, a militia). In fact, Smith was a Presidential candidate at the time of his assassination by a mob, as he sat in jail in Carthage, IL.

In short, hatred of the Mormons was sparked by their difference from others around them, by their prosperity, by their rising political influence - indeed, all the reasons bigots usually hate others (Jews, Catholics, etc).

Morons believe (but don't tell you this up front at your door):...

Jesus and Lucifer (the devil) are spiritual brothers.

Black people could not be inducted into the LDS priesthood. This was because black people were not fighting against the Satan in the battle in heaven. They couldn't become priests until the 70's when the LDS church leaders changed to allow them due to pressure from Civil Rights activists.

Mormons believe they know the truth by having a burning feeling in the bosom or chest. This could easily be heartburn or a false indicator of truth. Way too vague to trust this.

The Book of Mormon has been changed over 1,000 times since it was written.

Joseph Smith, the founder of Mormonism, claimed he found some golden plates buried which had the Book of Mormon written on them. He carried these plates for miles. How could he when they would have weighed over 200 pounds each?

Mormons believe God the Father was once a man who actually have sexual intercourse with Mary to produce Jesus.

These are just a few of the deceptions of the LDS system. They do try to live moral lives, yet they have a different message and a different God than the God of the Bible. Therefore they are in many ways a cult.

you're about...2% correct...
our nick name is mormon.
yeah...that's about it.

...I'm kind of surprized, however, that you made no mention of the 7 sisterwives that I MUST have, seeing as I am an oppressed woman living in a cult.

my goodness you are ridiculous.

sillygirl006, please be honest and tell people what Mormons really believe. What I said is true and it's written in your Mormon documents. I will also add that while Mormons do have a strong sense of family and try to live moral lives they have a different message of salvation that the Bible doesn't agree with. I Your writings say that in 1823 Joseph Smith had another heavenly visitation, in which an angel named Moroni told him of a sacred history written by ancient Hebrews in America, engraved in an Egyptian dialect on tablets of gold and buried in a nearby hill.

Joseph was told it was the history of the ancient peoples of America, and that Joseph would be the instrument for bringing this record to the knowledge of the world. Joseph obtained these gold plates from the angel in 1827, and translated them into English by the spirit of God and the use of a sacred instrument accompanying the plates called the Urim and Thummim. These plates were only seen by a few people close to Joseph and no one else ever again. You think they'd be on display in Utah somewhere if they were real.

The above is neither historically nor archeologically sound/proven. This is purely out of Joseph Smith's vivid imagination. There are also numerous timeline inconsistencies with the very origin story of Mormonism above.

Lastly, Joseph Smith said that the Book of Mormon contained the fulness of the gospel. However, its teaching on many doctrinal subjects has been ignored or contradicted by the present LDS church, and many doctrines now said by the church to be essential are not even mentioned there. Examples are the church's position on the nature of God, the Virgin Birth, the Trinity, polygamy, Hell, priesthood, secret organizations, the nature of Heaven and salvation, temples, proxy ordinances for the dead, and many other matters.

The Curse of Cain (the black race is not entitled to hold God's priesthood because it is cursed; this doctrine was not abandoned until 1978!
LDS Blood Atonement (some sins - apostasy, adultery, murder, interracial marriage - must be atoned for by the shedding of the sinner's blood, preferably by someone appointed to do so by church authorities) when only the real Jesus Christ of the Bible can forgive/atone for sins!

We can go back and forth all day, but the evidences are just not on the side of the Mormons and their LDS system. I hope you do some extra studying outside the Book of Mormon so you can see exactly what deceptions you have believed regardless of what you've been taught.

sillygirl006, please be honest and tell people what Mormons really believe. What I said is true and it's written in your Mormon documents. I will also add that while Mormons do have a strong sense of family and try to live moral lives they have a different message of salvation that the Bible doesn't agree with. Your writings say that in 1823 Joseph Smith had another heavenly visitation, in which an angel named Moroni told him of a sacred history written by ancient Hebrews in America, engraved in an Egyptian dialect on tablets of gold and buried in a nearby hill.
No evidence of Hebrews or Egyptians living in the Americas during the purported time that J. Smith said. Plus the Bible warns against any angel or entities bringing a different gospel other than the Holy Bible which is how Joseph claims mormonism/LDS was founded.

Joseph was told the golden plates were the history of the ancient peoples of America, and that Joseph would be the instrument for bringing this record to the knowledge of the world. Joseph obtained these gold plates from the angel in 1827, and translated them into English by the spirit of God and the use of a sacred instrument accompanying the plates called the Urim and Thummim. These plates were only seen by a few people close to Joseph and no one else ever again. You think they'd be on display in Utah somewhere if they were real.

The above is neither historically nor archeologically sound/proven. This is purely out of Joseph Smith's vivid imagination. There are also numerous time-line inconsistencies with the very origin story of Mormonism above.

Lastly, Joseph Smith said that the Book of Mormon contained the fulness of the gospel. However, its teaching on many doctrinal subjects has been ignored or contradicted by the present LDS church, and many doctrines now said by the church to be essential are not even mentioned there. Examples are the church's position on the nature of God, the Virgin Birth, the Trinity, polygamy, Hell, priesthood, secret organizations, the nature of Heaven and salvation, temples, proxy ordinances for the dead, and many other matters.

The Curse of Cain (the black race is not entitled to hold God's priesthood because it is cursed; this doctrine was not abandoned until 1978!
LDS Blood Atonement (some sins - apostasy, adultery, murder, interracial marriage - must be atoned for by the shedding of the sinner's blood, preferably by someone appointed to do so by church authorities) when only the real Jesus Christ of the Bible can forgive/atone for sins!

We can go back and forth all day, but the evidences are just not on the side of the Mormons and their LDS system. I hope you do some extra studying outside the Book of Mormon so you can see exactly what deceptions you have believed regardless of what you've been taught.

Wow...that is so completely wrong. you have no idea what you are talking about. if you knew anything about the church of Jesus Christ of latter-day saints. you would know that we don't solely study the book of mormon. I have had 9 years of formal instruction on the bible. that is study focused on the bible. that is not including the personal time I have spent studying the bible. OH WAIT! make that 10 years...I'm studying the new testament currently in a college class.

I have no idea where you are getting this stuff---the church does not change its position. it does not change doctrine. whatever you have against mormons...well, it's time to get over it.

sillygirl and other mormons please consider the info put forth by infoholic posted above by me (infoholic). I pray you aren't relying on a burning in your bosom to prove mormonism is true. Truth be told, mormonism is fraught with numerous inconsistencies and outlandish (yet unsupported) stories.

Many are caught up in the LDS church due to the hope of their family being eternally together in the hereafter despite evidence to the contrary. This is only one reason but Joseph Smith did not deliver a new and everlasting message as he claimed he did. Do your homework and check out the evidence for yourself!

ha ha, tell me more about what I don't know about my own religion. you certainly have a way of twisting the truth. how sad.

Whoa... let's see... hmmm... what usually happens to a person's credibility when they start referring to themselves in the third-person?

I'm gonna go with, it disappears.

This burning in the bosom is the Holy Ghost testifying of truth. it is as much physical as it is mental and spiritual. It testifies of truth by providing feelings of comfort and understanding. The funny thing about evidence is it can be tampered with and distorted to fit the needs of an individual or group. what is history but a fable agreed upon? -Napolean Bonaparte
Something tells me infohollic that the mormon missionaries could show up on your doorstep with those golden plates and you still wouldn't believe Joseph Smith was a prophet.

The burning in the bosom may also signify that you have heart burn from eating a chili dog. You gave a typical Mormon canned response! Mormonism is indeed full of numerous deceptions and historical inaccuracies. For example, there is no real evidence that Israelite-Hebrews were living in America in the past. Don't say the American Indians had anything to do with that either.

Many Mormon theories don't hold water and they are unfounded. Don't let the outward wholesomeness of your Mormon lives give you comfort in you being truly saved from your sins. You are worshiping a different God and have a different Jesus Christ than the historical/evidential Jesus of the Holy Bible. Therefore, you are in error and still in your sins even now. Get unbound from the Temple and get bound in the body of Christ.

Lastly, Jesus and Lucifer never were brothers, so please deal with these issues and seek the truth in the Bible alone, not in other false works of men!

It's almost as if you believe that God spoke to man through the Bible, and then never spoke again. Revlation would never again come to man. Not through a prophet, not through scripture, and certainly not through one's prayers.

!que triste!
(how sad).