Religious questions

My parents are extremely religious. I however am not.
1. How can we truly prove god is real?
2. How come when people say god saved them in car accidents and stuff then why didn't he save the 6 million jew. you are basically saying you are more important...

that 6 million jews.
3. Where in the bible does it say to keep Chrismas, Halloween, Easter, and ect.
4. Where in the bible does it say Santa or putting up christmas trees are holy?
5. where in the bible does it say SUNDAY is the true holy day? why not saturday the seventh day anymore?
6. Why would god send someone to hell if he is supposed to be a loving and merciful god???
7. Where in the bible does it say people are going to heaven? It says god will make the earth his kingdom FIRST!
8. How come in the bible it says thou shall not kill or murder why do homophobic people say god says to kill them?
9. If we are suppositivley going to heaven then I don't think you guys would last long because got kicked out Satan for rebeling you'll be kicked out too if you sin.
10. Where in the bible does it say God Hates THE PERSON?? because I believe its god hates the SIN!?

*** Thanks be to God the holocaust ended.

So G-d ended the Holocaust?
Too bad he didn't end it after the first jew or gypsy or special needs person was killed.
That goes back to my original question...
what kind of sick G-d do you believe in?

I want a G-d that does not wait until millions have been exterminated like vermin.
I want a G-d that does not allow it to happen in the first place.

1. we cant do it scientifically. how can you explain those miracles that happen?? we live by faith, and not by sight.
2. perhaps the Holocaust was a test of faith.
3. it doesnt... =P
4. it doesnt. it isnt. Christmas is NOT about Santa Claus or christmas trees. its about Jesus Christ's birth.
5. because SUNDAY is the 7th day. in the Bible, it states that God rested on the 7th day, and so we just, I guess, consider that holy? I dunno. its not relly considered holy
6. ummh, if you dont believe in him, well, he cant save u. =P
7. ummh, no. it says in the Bible that Heaven is his kingdom.
8. well, I guess homophobic people are not mentally stable? because he would NOT tell you to kill urself.
9. how is that a question? and, umm, in Heaven, we shall live forever praising and glorifying his name.
10. ummh, it doesnt say that in the Bible. God detests SIN. he doesn't hate a person. he loves us all so. that's why he sent his one and only son to die for us. to save us from sin.

You have obviously given this quite a bit of thought.
Religion is at the root of most of your questions.
I make a difference between practicing religion and having faith. Religion ruins everything. Almost every religion thinks that their laws, their practices, their beliefs are the correct ones and that everyone else is wrong. That leads to judgment, judgment leads to hatred, and hatred leads to cruelty...all in the name of religion...all in the name of MY god is better than YOUR god, MY religion is the ONE true religion and yours is wrong.
Just read some of the answers on this site...

1: you cant people have spent there whole lives trying to do it and never have
2: all things happen for a reasion and it kinda changed the usa in good ways
3:it does not say we just do it but I dont know why
4:it does not once again
5: it does not but from people calculating stuff from the bible almost all the importent things fall on sundays
6:peopl,e do wrong stuff and who know may be he thinks he's doing it out of love
7:it is his kingdom now and umm it talks a lot of heaven but people b-leave it to think there safer once they die
8:its all ion there heads
9:thats not a qustion its a statement
10:god hates the sin it says not the perison but you can make up for your sins in your own way

hope I helped =]

***2. perhaps the Holocaust was a test of faith.

Of whose faith? Jews believe in G-d. Are you saying that G-d decided to test the jews by allowing them to be shot, raped, starved, skinned alive, turned into soap, gassed, burned in ovens, sterilized, beaten and killed just to test their faith.
They showed their faith. They believed in G-d.
They showed their faith. Those that survived continued to worship G-d.
They passed the test, they had faith.

What kind of sick G-d do you believe in that would allow 6 million to die just for a test.

***2: all things happen for a reasion and it kinda changed the usa in good ways

Wow, it kinda changed the USA in good ways...
How EXACTLY did the holocaust help the USA?

No no no aliyah0137. I am basing most of my facts on what people have told me about the bible about people and about certain things. And no Saturday was the seventh day. Not Sunday. And I didn't mean killing homophobic people I ment homosexuals because I get a lot of remarks that people are supposed to kill them. I was distracted because I was watching On youtube gaygod video about how he will not date a meat eater. And 9 was supposed to be a question I just got distracted, again. It was supposed to be how are we supposed to stay in heaven if its obvious we will sin?

Lame, you are blaming G-d for how people treat others. G-d does not send anyone to hell, it is the people who send themselves there. If you want proof I can show you thousands of things the bible has predicted and science has shown but they will all look like a bunch of coincidences to you.

I don't believe hell is real at all. And were in the bible does it say Jesus was born on christmas day?

I fail to understand you comment teresa_is_cool , you say that the important things fall on Sunday. How does that determine that you should keep that as the Sabbath day? Isn't it God rested on the seventh day which is saturday the sabbath.

in all honesty the answers you seek will most likely evade you for the rest of your life,all you need to believe is that if you do good things ,good things will happen to you in this life and the next.Dont worry to much about hell ,it wasnt even in the first testament .it was added later in the second testament so that the church could hold power over the regular people.just like in the midevil ages the church would charge money for people to confess.and utopias first response is legitimate ...religion is the root to a lot of evil in the world ...even today there fighting over the holy land..holy crusades ..and it was used as a tool in the holocaust..hitler didnt hate jews ..he needed a disliked social class to use as a scapgoat to get the rest of the country squarely behind him,when there is a comon enemy ..all are friends ... anyway enough ranting

sweety religion is not about proof.
1. its something called FAITH... how can we prove anything at all?... you're simply overthinking.

2. Wow. I am not even kind of sure how you can compare 2 completely different things... But I will attempt. With everything good there is evil. Ex. Good- God, Evil- Satan; Good-heaven, Evil- hell. And it confuses me that people expect good things to happen, but when bad things happen we blame God, but who is to blame except for ourselves? Humans are naturally evil, therefore we do evil things... People need to stop blaiming God and take a look around. That's why the holocaust happened... Because somewhere, someone screwed up... Thanks be to God the holocaust ended.

3. I'm not sure that this has anything to do with anything... But these are holidays that help us REMEMBER the great things that have happened... Halloween is just fun. screw what people say about it being the devil's holiday... Its just something fun for kids to do.

4. It doesn't say that... Once again.. what does that have to do with anything??... it DOESN'T!!! ha... Again.. for fun... old traditions.. etc. No religious purposes.

5. Because God rested on the seventh day.. aka Sunday... It just happened that way.. ha... If its that big of a deal to you, and you REALLY want to worship all day Saturday, knock yourself out... I'm sure God would be delighted.

6. God gives chances. And he is loving, merciful, and FAIR! if someone didn't have a chance, I personally believe God would NOT condem them to hell. God is such a great God he has given us free will. Which gives us the CHOICE to do good or evil. again... weather we go to heaven or hell... It is simply up to us.

7. Heaven is God's kingdom, you are misinformed.. It's OUR job to make the Earth God's kingdom.

8. Because Satan has twittled with their minds. I'm not going to act like I know what happens to mentally unstable people after they die. Again, look at humanity as a whole... We mess up ourselves, God doesn't do this to us.

9. Oh my Gosh! This is an insane one.. Satan thought he could be stronger than God. wanted to take God's place! God forgives for our sin, if we ASK for forgiveness! Satan did NOT want God to forgive him... Sin is a problem... But God won't condem someone to hello simply because they sin. It is when we sin so much it interferes with our relationship with God, That is when the big problem occurs.That's what God wants from us... RELATIONSHIP!!! And don't you think that Satan wanting to be stronger than
God just might effect their relationship?... I sure think so!

10. And I'm not sure what bible you've been reading if you think it says God hates the person... He surely DOES NOT!. So just get that image our of your mind... its taking up too much room.

Funmail me... I would like to attempt to set your views straight.

Best of all is, you guys might even be so lucky to meet Hitler himself in heaven, he was religious and most possibly had true remorse over his sins and prayed for forgiveness before his death ………enjoy eternity with him ….good luck, I’ve got a feeling your going to need it ;-) (that is…..if you still think eternal life exists)

Mean to say:

If you’ve killed 1/100/1000/1mil people it doesn’t matter, if you have real remorse over your sins and pray for forgiveness, you will be saved from hell.

If you’ve raped1/100/1000/1mil people it doesn’t matter, if you have real remorse over your sins and pray for forgiveness, you will be saved from hell.
Etc Etc Etc

1. We can't.
2. Because people who believe only see the positve things that come out of their belief and rarely acknowledge the evil that it does.
3. It doesn't.
4. It Doesn't.
5. The bible says keep the sabbath holy, which was always considered saturday. But when they were trying to sell chirstianity to the pagans, they changed somethings to fit with pagan traditions.
6. Good question. I have never gotten a good answer from a believer for this one. I actually think most believer don't really think their god would send good people to hell simply for not believing.
7. It actually does say it. But it says a lot of fantastic things, as does most mythology
8. Because they are crazy.
9. Most believers think it is up to god to make those decisions. But I agree, if there is a god, I don't think he will be happy with the way some fundamentalist christians behave.
10. Well there are many places in the OT where god hated the people. Like most of humanity in the great flood. Christ supposedly taught about forgiveness and tolerance. I do believe most christians try to follow these tenets, as do most everyone else. But there are plenty who will twist their religious belief in order to demoize certain groups. Some on this site.

1. Nobody can.
2. Its quite common for religious people to think they have some supernatural forces protecting them from harm. Its also common to credit God for ALL good things that happen, and blame themselves or Satan for the bad things. I call it divine blame placement, and I think it goes against the concept of free will.
3. It doesn't.
4. It doesn't. Both Santa Xmas trees (and all the other fun Xmas practices) were originally Pagan before Christianity adopted them.
5. It doesn't.
6. Nobody can answer that, because nobody knows how God (if he exists) operates.
7. Several places.
8. Because the Bible DOES say homosexuals should to be put to death. And it also DOES say we aren't supposed to kill/murder people.
9. You could always ask for fogiveness... again...
10. It doesn't... who's telling you this sh*t??

1) You can't
2) Not surprising. People are like that. To them , they're the most important being in their lives. It's all about them.
3) It doesn't. They weren't even Christian holidays, they were/ are originally Pagan's. Christmas was originally the winter solstice, Yule being the rebirth of their sun god when he lay'd dead for the days(when the sun stays on the same coarse before moving on). Easter originally Ostria, a festival held to honor the goddess Ostria, goddess of fertility. Halloween originally being Samhain, the Pagans' Celtics' new year, also to be when the spirit return to the underworld(not being heaven or hell, just a place where the dead went when they died), when the barriers become the thinnest between worlds. The Christians took the in order to get people to convert. Hey, you've holidays, we've holidays too, come on over. Almost the same as come to the dark side, we've cookies.
4) Another figure inspired by the Pagans.
5) He's not, even the bible says different:
“..To Fear the Lord is wisdom” -Job 28:28
“The Lord is a man of War!” -Exodus 15:3
...I the Lord thy God am a jealous God”-Deut 5:9
God being all loving such is a rather new concept.
Hell, to say God is all loving would be to contradict many of ancient texts in the bible common sense.
7) EXACTLY
8) It doesn't in the bible at all. It says to kill witches demands for certain killings. For instance when the Jews where searching for their holy lands, God told them to kill men, women children, but to keep the virgins for themselves.
9) I agree. I can see it now. God says to do something but that's in the bible I'm God you idiot, I say what goes But the bible is the law f*ck you, you're going to h3ll, how's that for law.
10) haileybre, teresa_is_cool, aliyah0137, captainassassin(sorry dude)
you're all wrong
It says God HATES RIGHT HERE =
~*~*~ “As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.” -Romans 9:13~*~*~

Many of these questions have been asked time an again. I will provide the answer hoping that people don't ask it again. However I think that that is very unlikely.

***1. How can we truly prove god is real? ***

God is not physical but He is a Spirit. Whenever people use the word prove the word scientifically is what is understood. Since science can study only physical things it is outside the scope of science to prove (as in an experiment) God. However since God is our Creator His works can be seen in all the creation. Now weather one considers the marvels in the nature as evidence of God depends on oneself. Therefore God cannot be proved to another person.(as in demonstrating via an experiment). But one can prove to oneself that God exists. So are there evidences that God exists? Yes. Can I show some evidences? No.

***2. How come when people say god saved them in car accidents and stuff then why didn't he save the 6 million jew. you are basically saying you are more important that 6 million jews.***

The question is if God exists why did he not help the Jews? The question assumes that if God existed then He would have helped the 6 million Jews. How is the questioner sure that, that is how a God would act? He is not sure but just assumes. If we knew for sure that God would help people in such a situation, then if the people are help by God then we could say that God does not exist?

***3. Where in the bible does it say to keep Chrismas, Halloween, Easter, and ect***

No. The bible does not ask us to keep them. They are not Christian festivals.

***4. Where in the bible does it say Santa or putting up christmas trees are holy***

No. That is also not said in the Bible.

***5. where in the bible does it say SUNDAY is the true holy day? why not saturday the seventh day anymore***

There is no particular day mentioned as holy in the Bible. So you work for six days and the seventh day must be kept holy. There is a law that says that if you have a slave you must let him go free on the seventh year. This does not specify any particular year. From when you have bought the slave the seven years are calculated.

***6. Why would god send someone to hell if he is supposed to be a loving and merciful god???***

Again how does the questioner know that God would not send anyone to hell? According to human logic that may be how we feel God should act. But we do not know God's logic.

In any case God does not send any one to hell. Man has the choice to choose weather to go to heaven or hell.

***7. Where in the bible does it say people are going to heaven? It says god will make the earth his kingdom FIRST! ***

It does not say in the Bible that people are going to heaven. It says that anyone who is saved will go to heaven.

***8. How come in the bible it says thou shall not kill or murder why do homophobic people say god says to kill them? ***

So by the logic of the questioner all army people should be punished as it is murder is a criminal offense in the court of law and army people kill a lot of people during a war. Just as killing during a war is not considered a criminal offense, punishment for the braking of a law is not a sin. Do not kill is a law. To kill a homosexual is administering a punishment.

So am I saying that killing homosexuals is ok? No. The law applies to all but punishment differs with each community. For example abusing woman is an offense all over the world, but punishments may vary for this offense in different countries. Punishment varies based on various things like time, region etc. God viewed homosexuality as a serious sin and he ordered the Israelites to punish homosexuals with death. With the death of Jesus on the cross the new testament came into effect. We are now commanded only to preach the Good News. Therefore we do only that.

***9. If we are suppositivley going to heaven then I don't think you guys would last long because got kicked out Satan for rebeling you'll be kicked out too if you sin. ***

When we accept Jesus as our savior the Holy Spirit comes and dwells in us. Thus we have the Holy Spirit in us and will have when we are in heaven. Any type of rebellious nature would have ceased to exist. Therefore we will never be kicked out.

***10. Where in the bible does it say God Hates THE PERSON?? because I believe its god hates the SIN!?***

It does not say in the Bible God hates the person. He hates only the sin.

Oh and I saw a post here that says ...h thanks to the benefits of purgatory. I just wanted to inform brotherdavid that there is no such a thing as purgatory. We would be pure in heaven because Jesus sanctifies us.

*** Well, we have faith. ***

that is not proof

*** The things God has done noted in the old Testament. Noah's arc has now been found. ***

No it hasn't.

***The chariots and spears at the bottom of the red sea when Moses led his people out of Egypt has been found.***

No they haven't

*** That small bit of proof should be enough to show you God is true. ***

That is not proof, it is evidence, extremely unreliable evidence.

*** Although, you should not need proof, even Satan understands God is real :-s ***

Maybe you don't need evidence to believe something as fantastic and unknowable as a diety, but I do. That doesn't make me a bad person.

*** No-one can question the work of God. ***

Why? Is he afraid we might hurt his feelings?

*** He has a plan for everyone. ***

Then why can't he tell us what it is?

*** Why didn't he save his ONLY son on the cross? Because his plan was that Christ saves us from our sins, gives us a way to be saved. That was the plan for Christ. Everyone is unique to God. ***

Dogma is not proof either. We have all heard this before. No need to keep repeating it.

***Those days are special to all Christians, whom show the true love for Christ. Your parents love you, so they celebrate your birthday. Christians love Christ. Many days are kept sacred for different reasons. ***

No, those days are holidays based on pagan fesitvals. They needed to make chrisitianinty more palatable for the pagans, so they made the holidays and rituals the same.

*** Christmas trees are not pagan, they are a sign of the holy trinity, father, son and holy ghost. To remind us, what Christmas is all about. A monk was spreading the good news in the 7th century and spotted the tree, and found it as the holy trinity shaped object. ***

Do you ever question one thing you hear?

*** God made the world in 6 days ( proven via a young earth ) and rested on the 7th. ***

No he didn't. There is ample proof that the world has been around for over 4 billion years, and that humans have only been here a few hundred thousand. Are you disputing this?

*** God does not want someone who rejects him.***

Why? is he vain? Can't handle rejection?

*** He let us know he is around via the law , then sent his son to earth for us. If someone still won't accept him and continue to live in sin, why should God save him? The law is supposed to be upheld not broken with people living immoral lives that continue to reject God. ***

So this god of yours will cast perfectly good people into hell for simply not believing. But he will accept pedophiles, rapists, and murderers as long as they believe and asked for forgiveness. Yeah, he is a real loving guy, that god of yours.

*** ( example: Sarah 29, parties every night, casual sex, drugs and is a lovely girl to speak to, nice and well spoken, doesn't believe in God or Christ even though she was taught about God )

Why would God want to save her? In this twisted modern world, that maybe a normal lifestyle for some, but that is immoral and will go to hell, no doubt. God is merciful, to those whom love him. ***

This type of thought is truly dispicable. Who are you to judge? Isn't that up to your god?

*** People have to be purified to go to heaven in purgatory. If you are lucky enough to go to purgatory thats a good thing. You will suffer terrible in fire to purge yourself for the consequences of your sins. If you die with mortal sins like my Sarah example, you will go to hell. However, After purgatory , only then can they go to heaven. That's why catholics pray on NOV 2nd to deliver souls to heaven from purgatory. ***

And do you think usurping your god's will by judging others is being pure in his eyes?

*** You shall not kill yes, people use religion as an excuse to kill. The law of Moses is clear and must always be obeyed. God is our creator and orders angels to kill forhim, afterall we are his creation and a creator can do what he wants with his own creation. ***

So angels are god's hitmen?

***You can't sin in heaven. The soul is pure and loves God so much thanks to the benefits of purgatory. ***

How do you know this?

*** Has God not got the right to hate ? ***

Sure he has, most of you thumpers do a good job at it, so you must have learned it from somewhere.

*** God gives people a conciseness so we can decide if its good or bad. How can God hate the sin when we are the ones doing it? ***

And do you think that atheists have a concisence?

*** Does God hate sex? why did he say be fruitful and give us sexual organs. ofoucrse he doesn't, providing we use the tools he gave us within then law he gave us.

Does God hate it when we Lust, or watch porn and commit adultery, yes. Using the tools against te law creates SIN. ***

He hates it so much, he says adulterers should be stoned to death by your neighbors.

*** It is WE whom commit the sins, not sins that overcome us. God is to be loved and to be feared. When you truly fear God is when you have come to really love and understand your creator. ***

Sin is a manmade concept.

*** A fear of his wonderful powers and loving merciful spirit is what all souls seek. ***

So he is hateful, vengeful, yet merciful? You are completely clueless.

According to Christianity the six million Jews will be burning in Hell while Hitler is Heaven

Check out these Adolf Hitler quotes:

Hitler: My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice... And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people.

Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.

--2.perhaps the Holocaust was a test of faith.--

I see now, you think god uses people and allows them to suffer as a test?

Like the christians who claim that god is working in their life, believe that people living in poverty are a tool from god to teach compassion

*** Oh I forgot to state I'm done with this thread. ***

Good, because you have no credibility when you make such idiotic and fantastic claims like Noah's ark was found, and the pharoes chariots were found.

1. How can we truly prove god is real?

I answered this question somewhere here.

There you go..

Everything, my friend, every single thing, is evidence for God. He is everywhere. Everywhere is his creation.

Even the sentence 'God does not exist' has God in it.

You can think of God, right? Even atheists can do it.
Now if you tell me that you can think of something that doesn't exist and can't possibly exist, I will be an atheist right now.

C'mon.. this is an open challenge for all of you, my sisters and brothers. Just name me one single thing that doesn't exist and can't possibly exist.

No, no, no.. you are not allowed to use things that already exist. You can't just take a piece from everything and put all the pieces together to come out with something that didn't exist in such a form before. I didn't challenge you to invent anything. Creativity is not my subject here. I am not talking about a creature made of Marie Curie's head, a giraffe's neck, a lion's body and my feet. I am talking about something which is not composed of things that already exist, something that has NO imitation in our universe.

Name me this something, and I am an atheist.

You can think of God, remember? But you can't think of anything that doesn't exist.

God is not composed of anything. God is not an imitation of anything that we know. So, here is the question: Where did we get God from?
Who put Him inside of our minds? Who made Him a subject of our arguments?

If God wasn't real, nobody would ever mention God, let alone feel and think of Him.. the idea of God would never ever hit anyone's mind.

In order to believe or believe not in something, that thing has to exist in the 1st place. I myself don't believe in Communism, but Communism does exist.

Just open your eyes, my friend, and you shall see God in every step you take. He is closer to you than your own heart.

2. How come when people say god saved them in car accidents and stuff then why didn't he save the 6 million jew. you are basically saying you are more important that 6 million jews.

Staying alive does not mean you are saved, and being saved does not mean you are not important. Everone is meant to live for a while, some people are meant to live longer than others. It's not that bad people die and good people survive. Don't try to figure out life in terms of addition and subtraction. Figure it out in terms of multiplication and division. It does not matter how many years you live, it does not matter if you die in a car accident or inside a gas room. It only matters how you live the number of years God gives you.

3. Where in the bible does it say to keep Chrismas, Halloween, Easter, and ect.

I dunno. I am not a Christian.

4. Where in the bible does it say Santa or putting up christmas trees are holy?

Ditto.

5. where in the bible does it say SUNDAY is the true holy day? why not saturday the seventh day anymore?

Ditto.

6. Why would god send someone to hell if he is supposed to be a loving and merciful god???

'Cause He is just, too.

7. Where in the bible does it say people are going to heaven? It says god will make the earth his kingdom FIRST!

Earth is already God's kingdom.

8. How come in the bible it says thou shall not kill or murder why do homophobic people say god says to kill them?

I dunno.

9. If we are suppositivley going to heaven then I don't think you guys would last long because got kicked out Satan for rebeling you'll be kicked out too if you sin.

You don't sin in heaven.

10. Where in the bible does it say God Hates THE PERSON?? because I believe its god hates the SIN!?

God doesn't hate anything.

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