Someone saying that they are proud to be white, racist?

Would you consider someone saying that they are proud to be white, racist?
If so, why is that.
Would you consider a person who says they are proud to be black a racist?
Explain:

This is something that has come up with a group of friends of mine, and...

the answers were shocking, yet somehow predictible. I'm just curious as to what other people think.

It's pointless to be prideful of things you had NO PART in obtaining.

Absolutely not, for both -
And my reason is simply everyone should be proud of who they are, and every aspect of that. You cant change your race to you might as well embrace it. Sitting there saying my race is better than your race... type thing I would consider to be a bit racist though.

What are YOUR thoughts about it?

It's pretty controversial.

A lot of black people who identify their pride are often seen as powerful, but if a white person does it, they are accused of being racist.

I think we can all be proud of who we are, but it doesn't have to be a racist view. I like who I am, and I happen to be white. If I were black, I'd still like who I am.

The simple fact, is that we will never be in a world that has the ability to be colour blind. In a sense, we are all racist - if you can look at a group of black people and point at the one white person standing within it, that's just as racist a view if it were a black man in a white crowd.

What we need to do as a society is start looking at people from the inside, not the outside.

I personally think that you should be proud in everything that makes you, you. Including skin color.
Talking with my friends though, they assumed that white people who said White Pride, were racist, because of the bad history and things associated with the saying White Pride
It amazes me though that they did not see a black person who said Black Pride, as a racist.

Phew!
I read your advice and think you're great - I was hoping to read that and I'm glad you aren't racist..
Kudos!

there is no heritage or history of white people in this country, the white colonists that came to America were from all different backgrounds and from all over Europe. If a white person was saying they are proud to be German, Dutch, English etc. it would be completely different. because their genetic history and heritage are from that country.
black people on the other hand have been oppressed in this country for 100's of years. they used to be banned from being in the same places as white people just because they were black. around the civil rights times black people want to show they are proud of being who they are despite all the bigotry from the the majority of the country. so they say they are black and proud.
saying that you are white and proud means nothing and is definitely racist

Saying that you are Black and proud means nothing as well then. Because you are still talking about skin color ma'am.
Technically, it is african-american.
I never said there was a heritage of white people, that would be silly. White, is not a heritage.

blerggher, for many years, women were treated as though they were unimportant and also had the problem of not being allowed in many places that men went.

If I say I like being a woman...does that make me a feminist?

We can't change history. We can't make what our ancestors did not happen, but why should we, as white people today, be persecuted until the end of days for something we had no hand in doing?

I'm all for black pride - they have a right to it...but so do we. We have a right to celebrate our place in this world, and just because my ancestors came from across the sea doesn't mean a damn things these days. I was born Canadian, just as my mother, and her mother...and I am a proud Canadian.

ichibanarky
Thank you, that was my point exactly.

skin color is not somthing for people to be proud of ,people should be proud for what they achieved in life

^^ And why isn't it something to be proud of?

I agree with stephanief987

well then, don't say you are proud to be white. say you are proud to be canadian. I even addressed that in my post. If a white person was saying they are proud to be German, Dutch, English etc. it would be completely different. because their genetic history and heritage are from that country. maybe I didnt word that correctly. but in America, saying you are proud to be white really doesnt make any sense. There was such a wide range of different cultures with white skin coming to this country during the colonization times.
Black people were treated like subhumans just because the white people at that time thought that black skin meant that they were an inferior race. and enslaving them would actually be ok in the long run as long they could be converted to christians, because you know, that sorta thing would help them out. I am not saying anyone should be ashamed to be any skin color. but saying you are proud to be white is ignorant.

steph . and why it is ? color does not define you as a person and does not make you a good person , it is just a color !!!

I think it's stupid to be proud of something you had nothing to do with.
There's no reason to be proud of being white, black, yellow, or purple.

You didn't accomplish anything, and it had nothing to do with you.
It's like being proud of being born with both of your legs.

underwaterophelia , I agree .

I would never say that someone who is proud to be who they are is racist.
Mainly because you cannot help being the color you are and therefor should be proud of it.
I love being white, because that is how I was born. Not because of the heritage of white people(because God knows we havent been perfect).
If I was mexican, then I would be proud of that. If I were black, then I would be proud of that. Etc, etc, etc.

Why can't people be proud of themselves (whether they are white, black, mexican, indian, etc. )? If you are something and you are proud that doesn't mean that you are a racist. Racist's hate people because they are different than themselves. Saying that you are proud of being...whatever color you are...is not the same thing.

lanternoflight and colethky, your post is racist because Mexican(and indian) is not a skin color. its a word used to describe some one who is from Mexico(or india).

I think the biggest problem with racism in america today is lots of people simple do not realize they are being racist.

White people used to think Black people were completely lower than them on the social ladder. When talking about a person who was black they would never just say That guy standing over there they would always say That black guy standing over there. People saying they are proud to be black is basically them taking away white peoples power to oppress them using the term black.

If you are someone who is black and american. saying that you are proud to be black means something. saying that you are proud to be white means nothing.

there is a difference between being proud of who you are, being proud of the heritage of your people, and being proud of the country you are from.

saying you're proud to be white MEANS NOTHING

First off, I can't help that blacks were enslaved in the past. I personally had nothing do with that, so me saying that I am proud to be white, does not make me a racist. In my opinion.
I dont believe that any race, as a certain privledge over the other, to say they are proud to be their skin color. If you are going to argue that you can't be proud to be white, then you should also argue that you can't be proud to be black. No skin color is above another, and no skin color should have that privledge if the other's can't.
Also for the people saying you should not be proud of something you couldn't control, or something that you did not accomplish.
Then why are people proud to be women, proud to be american, proud to be canadian, all of these things could not be controlled. You were just born that way.

peanutbritttle
That's one thing that came up with me and my friends. Saying you are proud to be white and saying White Power are two totally diffent things. People usually associate white pride with things that have happened in the past (such as hitler, nazi's etc.), which is not true in the least.
Saying you are proud you are white or black or whatever, is not saying that you are better or more powerful than anyone, it is simply saying you are proud of something that makes you, you.
I see no problem in anyone having pride in whatever makes them, themselves. You can be proud of your religion/heritage/color/eye color/hair/sex/ etc, and I dont see why you shouldn't be.