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Oops - should palin have walked out?

woofstock Asked by utopia 2 months ago, 13 answers.
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Palin’s church, the Wasilla Bible Church, gave its pulpit over to a figure viewed with deep hostility by many Jewish organizations: David Brickner, the executive director of Jews for Jesus.

Palin’s pastor, Larry Kroon, introduced Brickner on Aug. 17, according to a transcript of the sermon on the church’s website.

“He’s a leader of Jews for Jesus, a ministry that is out on the leading edge in a pressing, demanding area of witnessing and evangelism,” Kroon said.

Brickner then explained that Jesus and his disciples were themselves Jewish.

“The Jewish community, in particular, has a difficult time understanding this reality,” he said.
Brickner’s mission has drawn wide criticism from the organized Jewish community, and the Anti-Defamation League accused them in a report of “targeting Jews for conversion with subterfuge and deception.”

Brickner also described terrorist attacks on Israelis as God's "judgment of unbelief" of Jews who haven't embraced Christianity.

"Judgment is very real and we see it played out on the pages of the newspapers and on the television. It's very real. When [Brickner's son] was in Jerusalem he was there to witness some of that judgment, some of that conflict, when a Palestinian from East Jerusalem took a bulldozer and went plowing through a score of cars, killing numbers of people. Judgment — you can't miss it."

Palin was in church that day. Should she have walked out? Should she disavow her pastor for inviting someone to speak who stated that the attacks on Israel were G-d's revenge on Jews that had not become Christians?

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How far we have come... Answered by jimahl on Sep 04, 2008, 10:47AM
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c'mon utopia, that isn't playing fair.

How can you expect a candidate to be responsible for what a preacher says in the church they attend? I mean, no one would be stupid enough to believe that, would they?

Tis Me!! Answered by lanternoflight on Sep 04, 2008, 11:36AM
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Just because you dont like her or McCain, or obviously GOD, doesnt mean that you have the right to judge her becuase of what her PASTOR did.

Another random picture taken by me :] Answered by trisarahtops on Sep 04, 2008, 12:03PM
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I think Utopia is just getting back at all those people who said those things about Obama. Which, they did the exact same thing.

Paybacks a B!TCH.

Answered by fau on Sep 04, 2008, 12:08PM
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Not everyone feels that way though. I personally have never said anything about Obama for what his pastor said. I dont think it should even be an issue.

How far we have come... Answered by jimahl on Sep 04, 2008, 01:54PM
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"Just because you dont like her or McCain, or obviously GOD, doesnt mean that you have the right to judge her becuase of what her PASTOR did."

One would have to believe in god before one could like or dislike him (or her).

And you are absolutely right, no one has the right to judge anyone because of what their pastor did...

woofstock Answered by utopia on Sep 04, 2008, 03:07PM
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Come on guys, here is the litmus test.
To all of you Republicans and/or Religious folks out there who blasted and still blast Obama for what his pastor said...
Stand up, speak now or forever hold your peace.

Or is it just about racism against whites?
or do you also deplore hatred against jews also?

Barrack Answered by rickd on Sep 04, 2008, 04:34PM
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This is not even making th epages of "the Oregonian", a very liberal newspaper. Utopia, you are digging deep, and your argument is not apples and apples.

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woofstock Answered by utopia on Sep 04, 2008, 05:16PM
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Really?
not apples and apples.
You mean it is whites and jews. Are you saying that expressed hatred for one is bad, and okay towards the other?

Barrack Answered by rickd on Sep 04, 2008, 06:42PM
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No, I am saying one luncheon doesnt equate to twenty years of sermons.

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woofstock Answered by utopia on Sep 04, 2008, 07:18PM
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So, in the same vein, as long as hatred was expressed ONLY once, it is okay or somehow excusable.

I love my mom, best...... Answered by phrannie on Sep 05, 2008, 01:52AM
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Ditto rickd...one "invited" speaker for ONE sermon, does NOT add up to 20 years of sitting and nodding with the same pastor...Anybody could sit thru a one time deal...but ya got to like it to sit thru it over 1000 times.

Apples and oranges...

phrannie

How far we have come... Answered by jimahl on Sep 05, 2008, 07:26AM
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And you two were present for those 20 years to know what was said?

VILLA! Answered by leevan on Sep 05, 2008, 09:58AM
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its not an issue

whats a real issue is the degrading comment about community organising. the more I think about it...

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