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Is this a good law or bad law ?

Asked by amblessed about 1 year ago, 51 answers.

Colorado Governor Bill Ritter has signed a bill that has shocked many of the state's residents - open bathrooms - This bill allows men to go into women's restrooms and locker rooms and vice versa because we are told that we cannot discriminate against...

someone with a transgender status - I'm wondering if the Ladies here would be concerned - from a safety aspect - that the person next to you or in there at the same time as your daughter, wearing a dress might have a difference in equipment - the question: Is this a good law or bad law ?

Transgender identity includes many overlapping categories. These include transsexual (TS); cross-dresser (CD); transvestite (TS); androgynes; people who live cross-gender; drag kings; and drag queens. Usually not included because it is considered to be a paraphilia (rather than gender identification) are transvestic fetishists

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Oh I miss him Answered by armywife06 on Jun 11, 2008, 07:00AM
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Wow this one is crazy. First of all I am an open minded person. I dont hate or dislike anyone for the way they live. I think I would just have to hold it till I got home though. I dont get why we change so many things is this country to prevent making people with transgender identity or whatever you want to call it comfortable. Im not sure about others kids but mine personally would freak out if the walked into a bathroom and seen a man in a dress standing at the sink. Could you imagine the questions. There comes a time when you need to explain all these situations to a child but Id appreciate it if I could do that in my own time and way. Why does everyone want to shove this in our face. If it makes a many feel pretty to dress like a girl so be it. Do whatever makes you happy. To pass laws that please a small part of the population when things were fine the way they are is rediculous. Men no matter what they are or how they dress should use a mans restroom and same goes for women. I agree that sometimes it stinks having to wait but I would rather wait than storm into a mans bathroom and make others feel uncomfortable.

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35 weeks pregnant (Yes, I have a sports-bra on) Answered by stephanief987 on May 31, 2008, 02:57PM
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Hands down, stupid law for sure. That is invading privacy and really shouldn't be allowed anywhere.

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Kurotsuchi taicho from Bleach Answered by sillist1s on May 31, 2008, 03:44PM
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So...does this law allow only transgender men/women to enter into the lady's/men's room or any man? It's true that you don't want to discriminate, and I don't discriminate against anyone. But...a regular old man, like a child predator could just decide for one day to go into the girl's bathroom and do whatever.
I'm on the fence on this one.

Three Days Grace Answered by matt18091 on May 31, 2008, 06:01PM
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He must have been looped when he signed it...Thats nasty O_O

sam and me Answered by lish54 on May 31, 2008, 06:06PM
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how much stupider can they get...that law is beyond bad...like its been said..a rapiest can be right beside you your friend daughter etc...and anyone that agrees to it is just as stupid and ignorant...I dont even know how to explain how I really feel bout this law...iys just plan stupid

Shark Atack Answered by funadvice on May 31, 2008, 06:21PM
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Such a fine example of how members of the Democratic Party think. . . Almost brings a tear to my eye. . . . .

Ya I was laughing that hard. . .

Face! Answered by underwaterophelia on May 31, 2008, 08:00PM
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This is a good law.

For everyone saying the rapist comments, do you honestly think a sign on a door is going to keep rapists out of the women's room anyway?

If anything, when the rapist enters the women's room, it is more likely there would be men to protect the person being attacked, and more people to help in general.

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Face! Answered by underwaterophelia on May 31, 2008, 08:05PM
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Also, how in the hell is in an invasion of privacy?
No one is allowed to go into private stalls, and if you put urinals in stalls, no one would see anyone else's genitals by accident, which shouldn't be a big deal for grown-ups anyway.

If women can see each other wash their hands and it's ok, why isn't it ok for a man to see you wash your hands?

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Shark Atack Answered by funadvice on Jun 01, 2008, 08:25AM
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Amblessed - are you implying that a transgender is a potential rapist?
Where are your facts?
Is it just because they practice a lifestyle that is different from yours?

Parents should not allow their child to enter ANY public restroom alone, no matter what gender designation it has.

And, quite honestly, as a woman who is tired of waiting in long lines to use the women's restroom...
Good.

Answered by amblessed on Jun 01, 2008, 08:37AM
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amoeba - are you implying that a transgender is NOT a potential rapist?

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Shark Atack Answered by funadvice on Jun 01, 2008, 09:34AM
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No. But I don't fear ANYONE based on their sexual identity...
You asked if mothers would be concerned from a safety aspect... That implies there is something to fear...

Fact -
the majority of child molesters are heterosexual males, whether they rape boys or girls (97% of all child molesters are male, according to the FBI):

In one study, 98% of males who raped boys reported that they were heterosexual according to the 1998 article Sexual Abuse of Boys in the Journal of the American Medical Association.

only 4% of same-sex assaults are homosexual assaults.

Shark Atack Answered by funadvice on Jun 01, 2008, 09:44AM
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Well, of course my boys came into the Ladies' toilets with me when they were little. When they got older (about 8) they didn't want to go into the Ladies' and I didn't think that other women would want them in there, either. So I sent them, usually together, into the Gents' toilets. I found that quite nerve-wracking, leaving them alone in there with who knows who? However, they have to learn to cope with that.

A potential paedophile (who obviously could be anyone of any gender/background) could have been in there and would be a threat to boys as to girls. Our boys are not 100% safe in a male toilet. As has already been said, a potential rapist would not be worried about the label on the door if he intended to go into a female toilet. So, although I find this idea a bit trendy-lefty, I don't find it threatening.

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Answered by amblessed on Jun 01, 2008, 10:31AM
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amoeba - if want to send your little girl to that restroom, fine - for me and my family, a certain location would have to freeze over first - interesting - 'not threatening' - this gives the right for the molester/rapist to simply put on a dress and go in there with any female - that will Never be 'not threatening' to me - amazing that this absolute possibility, does not concern...Take care !!

Shark Atack Answered by funadvice on Jun 01, 2008, 10:59AM
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As I stated NO parent should allow their child to enter a public restroom alone.

I agree with flossheal, trendy but not threatening. And when my son wanted to go alone, I stood outside the door and had him talk to me in a loud voice the entire time. lol.

Shark Atack Answered by funadvice on Jun 01, 2008, 12:03PM
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Think of this any old perverted guy can stick on a dress and enter the ladys room. . . . How long before someone gets caught Sexually acting out in Wonderful Colorado. . . .

Face! Answered by underwaterophelia on Jun 01, 2008, 02:50PM
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Amblessed, what if your daughter or wife goes into the women's room, and there is a man hiding in there who attacks her?
It would not matter what the sign on the door said, because the attacker is not concerned with the law.

Say this happens, and it's a bathroom for both sexes--now, if there's an attacker, you could be in the bathroom with them to protect them.

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Shark Atack Answered by funadvice on Jun 01, 2008, 03:37PM
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Wow. . . Talk about paranoid. . That's what pepper spray is for.

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Face! Answered by underwaterophelia on Jun 01, 2008, 04:04PM
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Why is it paranoid when I talk about the dangers of single sex bathrooms, but it's not paranoid for you to talk about the dangers of open bathrooms.

Also, pepper spray does not work on everyone.

Shark Atack Answered by funadvice on Jun 01, 2008, 06:02PM
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No public restroom is completely safe from creeps, no matter the assigned gender.
If amblessed were REALLY concerned about safety, he would demand that a camera be at the entrance and placed within the restroom (not focused on the stalls) with 24 hour monitoring.
Safety in public restrooms is NOT about the gender that is assigned at the door.
If safety were as easy as a posted sign we would all have do not enter signs on our frontdoors and it would be respected.

Shark Atack Answered by funadvice on Jun 01, 2008, 06:49PM
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Now how many Attacks by men in womens restrooms and Women in mens rooms to we have on record?

Face! Answered by underwaterophelia on Jun 01, 2008, 08:30PM
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Not sure, but wouldn't that further prove the point that open restrooms are an ok idea?

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