Is it some women or all ?

Libs and Feminists have proclaimed: We are all for the advancement of women - we now have a woman who is a hair away from reaching a position none have reached before - Are they wanting the advancement of ALL women or just some women ?

amblessed...

Your distortion of reality is beyond disgusting. You do it with religion, politics, and life in general, I would imagine.

I cannot even fathom what its like to continuously lie to yourself like this. Is living a lie just... HAPPIER than living in reality?

Women as a sex, not an individual woman.

I would be excited about any woman reaching high places in politics. Of course, I'd rather it be someone who stood up for the rights of women, unlike Palin. But it's still better than another crusty old white man running for VP.

Do you know what feminism is amblessed?

It's believing that women should have EQUAL rights to men. Are you really against that?

'Women as a sex' - her sex IS women/woman - obviously she is of the same female gender as ALL women - so ovbviously you're saying 'some' women.

No, I'm saying women want to see females as a whole reach greater hights.

Nope, dude, get the verbiage straight. It's ALL women, not ONE WOMAN, singular.

Getting a WOMAN seperatist into the white house is complete horse pucky. If you believe Alaska OR any other state has a right to seperate from the union, you're out of touch.

Should California follow suite? 1/5 of all the Americans live here, and alone, we're the 8th largest economy in the world. We have the highest standards of environmental controls, we have the highest standards for recycling alternative energy.

However, not all the MONEY that siphoned off the economy HERE pays for Californians. So if we vote in Palin, can California follow Alaska in bailing on the union?

YES? If not, then buy a clue don't vote for her.

As somebody who's proud to say that my WIFE owns the business and manages it, I like to think that I'm the camp of advancement for women. Do you know how many female tech executives there are? A tiny, dismal number.

Bottom line: you're following party rhetoric, you're not studying the issues at hand.

editor - so you're saying (as cited below) 1) 'workplace rights' does not include 'advancement in position' and 2) 'other forms of discrimination' means if a woman is barred from being supported for advancement by any group (here libs / feminists), that is not a form of discrimination - Is that correct ?

Researched:
Feminist activists have campaigned for women's legal rights (rights of contract, property rights, voting rights); for women's right to bodily integrity and autonomy, for abortion rights, and for reproductive rights (including access to contraception and quality prenatal care); for protection from domestic violence, sexual harassment and rape; for workplace rights , including maternity leave and equal pay; and against other forms of discrimination .

Should California follow suite? 1/5 of all the Americans live here, and alone, we're the 8th largest economy in the world. We have the highest standards of environmental controls, we have the highest standards for recycling alternative energy.

Frankly, I've always hoped that California would succeed from the nation...it'd save the rest of us a lot of money...and consternation...

You forgot to mention, it's going broke faster than any other state.

amblessed, what you wrote doesn't make sense to me.

What are you even asking me?

Wait, I think I get it. Are you insinuating that because I don't support Palin, I'm not a feminist? LOL! Being a feminist and believing that women should have EQUAL rights to men, does not mean I have to support every single woman in power. I would never support a woman who doesn't agree with a female's right to choose. Or who puts bounties on shooting wolves from planes. Or who has a drunk, pregnant underage daughter. Those aren't my values.

Does that mean I don't feel excitement that a woman is up for VP? No, I think that's pretty great. But I don't like her. And I don't have to, to be a feminist.

phrannie, that's cute

I blame Schwarzennegger for that - he has only hurt the state so far, and not helped.

It'd be interesting to see what % of money the California produces stays here, versus what % is contributed to the federal government. To be honest, I have no idea, however, it has to be something, as the federal government isn't free, nor is the war in Iraq, etc, and that's not paid for with state funds, it's paid with federal ones.

Irregardless of opinions on statehood vs federal government (aren't Republicans supposed to be FOR state rights over Federal obligations), but it seems like Palin is taking it too far with the secession bit.

Back on topic: if we had more women running more businesses with more equal opportunities, society as a whole would be better off. The only reason my wife I are still in business 2.5 years after starting is because six months into it, she took over, and I now manage other stuff.

And, on FunAdvice from a day to day operational perspective, again, it's a woman (Dara) that runs things, I'm not here as much as she is. For the most part, it's her call (judgement, opinion, etc) with regards to how to interpret the rules get things done.

Since she started running the site in Feb, it's grown by 50%...not bad, if I do say so myself. FunAdvice is now one of the biggest 1,000 sites in the US.

If that's not clear, I don't know what is. Supporting Palin is NOT equal to supporting women's rights.

This is America, and every woman can walk through every door of opportunity.

editor, its sad to see people back the rights to kill an innocent life(abortion) It IS WRONG! Scripturally, morally and in any other form there could be. Palin is a good choice I think so far from what I have seen.Do I believe in EVERYTHING she stands for? Probably not, but she is just human like the rest of us, but in the major important things, I think she is on track. As far as her daughter being pregnant, Is every choice our children make the parents fault? So, her daughter got pregnant, how many people put here who have children who have been in trouble in many different ways, being drugs, drinking, sex and yes even getting pregnant...I support her even more for the fact that her daughter did get herself into a situation(this would of happened whether she was in the role she is in now or just a common person like you and I) and she is there to support and love her and not disown her like a lot of kid's parents do. Does her role change her daughter getting pregnant, probably not...but she is there to encourage and be there for her family NO MATTER what. Thats the kind of people we need as role models for our country.

***Scripturally...***

The bible doesn't say abortion is wrong...

...This is America, and every woman can walk through every door of opportunity.

Wrong, in America, McCain voted against the equal treatment of women law. Let's not forget, typically, women get paid LESS than men do for the same work.

Yep, equal opportunity my foot.

If Palin wanted to campgain on that say that McCain was WRONG to vote against that bill, again, I'd be happy.

She didn't do that, though, did she? Instead, she blasted Obama Biden, both of whom voted *for* it...

Frankly, I've always hoped that California would succeed from the nation...it'd save the rest of us a lot of money...and consternation..

Yeah, we'd be much better off without the massive agricultural output, training ground for engineers and researchers, and billions of dollars in tax revenue and contribution to GDP that California provides.

Better to keep a state like Montana, with its...uh, remind me again, why should we keep Montana? Why didn't we just let the Freemen have their way?

I digress...

http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/opinion/la-oe-steinem4-2008sep04,0,1290251.story

everyone should read this, it pretty much sums it up for me

As far as her daughter being pregnant, Is every choice our children make the parents fault? So, her daughter got pregnant, how many people put here who have children who have been in trouble in many different ways, being drugs, drinking, sex and yes even getting pregnant...

Every choice? Not necessarily. But a series of bad choices certainly shows a lack of parental guidance.

We know she chose, and was apparently allowed, to date a guy who wrote on his myspace page: I'm a f - - -in' redneck who likes to snowboard and ride dirt bikes. But I live to play hockey. I like to go camping and hang out with the boys, do some fishing, shoot some s- - - and just f - - -in' chillin' I guess., and this little ditty: Ya f - - - with me I'll kick [your] a - -,. What a charming young man...

We know she chose to drink alchohol. A lot.

And we know she chose to have unprotected sex with a self-proclaimed redneck.

Those kinds of choices would not lead me to believe the parenting skills were very good.

I support her even more for the fact that her daughter did get herself into a situation(this would of happened whether she was in the role she is in now or just a common person like you and I) and she is there to support and love her and not disown her like a lot of kid's parents do.

So you are supporting her even more because she didn't disown her young daughter when Palin's own parenting skills failed the her in the first place.

Jimahl, you sure think you know the family like you live next door. What do you know happens in their house? How can you say she is a bad mother because her daughter made a mistake and made some bad choices..she is a good mom for being there for her children!! Period!
and to CAPTAINASSASSIN, YES the Bible does say abortion is WRONG!!! MURDER is wrong! which is what abortion is and the Bible says that is WRONG!!!

No... it doesn't consider a fetus to be a person. Which is why IN the Bible, when a man strikes a pregnant woman, causing her to miscarraige, he's not held responsible for the loss of the fetus, only the physical damage he caused to the woman.

and what school project is this for?..