Why is it that when I try to organize things, they seem to get messier than before?

That happens to me due to having so much stuff that I don’t need. So I move it from one spot and it ends basically a few inches from where it was..

ahh the taxing conscious weight of all that stuff. material possession is a funny thing. I manage it by not keeping anything but small items that really mean something to me and my life as well as the stuff I need to be a person. I don’t have messes or piles because I have nothing to form them with. Go through all that stuff and throw/give away what you don’t need. Keep the important stuff you’ve got in drawers or small boxes.

Sorting and containment are fundamental to organization.

Yea that happens to me all the time to. Like everything is in a messy pile so I’ll try to spread it out so I can decide what I should keep and where everything should go. But in the process I turn what was once a pile in the corner of my room(or something like that) into a mess across my floor. lol

sometimes you have to have chaos before there is order.. you get things out that were once hidden, you bring everything together which was once spread apart?

just collate it all and work through it, i think the same principle can be applied to a lot of things <3