Who agrees that gay people have no right to get married?

Gay people have no right to get married!!! Who is with me??? And if your for it I dont care I have gay friends but I wouldn't support them if they got married because marriage is from the bible for man and woman.

***Our country was founded on CHRIST and Christian views***

No... it wasn't... go RESEARCH your America's history, so you don't sound like such a fool.

***Separation of church and state was made for whiny greedy people who would sue if they didnt separate them***

Now you're just spouting stupidity.

***Im fine with NON-religious people getting married as long as its man and woman.***

MAKE UP YOUR MIND. Why is it okay for NON-RELIGIOUS people to take part in a RELIGIOUS ceremony? But for some reason, same sex partners CAN'T?

***Otherwise it is just an abomination!***

Go grab your Bible, and tell us which verse states that 'homosexual marriage' is an abomination.

ok so bonitagymnast14 you are being very closed minded,
but captainassassin so are you so you have no room to
talk, you're saying she is being all closed minded but you sit
here dont listen to what she's saying, you expect her to listen
to you believe every word that you say when she's been taught
her entire life that something is wrong. you can't expect people to
ditch their beliefs for yours just because you say so. if the whole
world would just LISTEN we wouldn't have so many conflicts.
people are just so quick to judge mistrust be skeptical they
dont take the time to listen to what people are saying

bonitagymnast14 if a woman loves a woman or a man loves a man, that's not
lust, it CAN be love. dont think just because a woman doesn't love a man and
a man doesn't love a woman doesn't make it lust. I think they should be able
to have kids everything the kids that get adopted by homosexuals also grow
up to be strong because they have to deal with kids at school making fun of the people that took them in when their birth parents coudn't or wouldn't. who cares if my mom was a lesbian or my dad was gay before they had me. yeah I mean I wouldn't be here but it would be their life. and they would be able to live their life they way the wanted to.

captinassassin:
Gee... what if my lezbo mom and her partner decided they wanted a baby, so they go to the sperm bank. Wow, I bet you'll never guess who the sperm donor might be. MY FATHER! What a hypothetical coincidence! It looks like I WAS born after all...

that's not true, it wouldn't be YOU it would be another kid that your parents had, it wouldn't necissarily (sp?) be you.
actually she was a lesbian it wouldn't even be your parents. because you wouldn't exist.

everyone was put here for a reason. whether some people believe it was God or science there had to be a reason, we need to learn to live in PEACE not judge. I dont know why people can't just be happy with who they are and what they have. stop trying to MAKE people see how you see, because you can't no matter how much you try it wont happen. they can't understand unless they're willing to sit down and LISTEN to you talk. untill then you can only tell what you know and hope they get it...if not, LET IT GO.

***The 3rd Commandment states You shall not take the Lord's name in vain. This, too is a hard thing not to do. It's become such a common occurence that the thought of using the phrase God Damn happens so frequently that it's become more of a comma than a phrase by itself.***

That's a common misinterpretation of what the 3rd Commandment implies.

***Jeeeze, my bad for having a bad memory?***

Nope... just WRONG.

***For your information the bible does by default condemn marriage***

No... it doesn't...

There is NOTHING the Bible says 'by default' ...a book cannot say something by NOT saying it... YOU just WANT it to... along with millions of others who want the Bible to agree with their own opinions.

Like the KKK, for example... just as the Bible NEVER says, that white people are the only TRUE children of God. It also NEVER says that homosexuals can't get married.

***And yes God sees every sin as equal but that doesnt change anything***

Wow... you really aren't paying attention. According to the Bible, all sins are equal (except blasphemy), then... according to the BIBLE (not your opinion), which sins FORBID marriage, and WHERE does it say that?

ok I said or w/e it
was you said, cause
I couldn't remember
exactly what you said.

Jeeeze, my bad for having
a bad memory?

im saying you didn't
SAY that she didn't
know that you grew up
believing the same things
you just said she was
stupid arrogant
ignorant or w/e it was you
were saying but you called
her names and made her
get deffensive.

just don't get so worked
up and maybe people can
actually talk.

STAY CALM!

well in my opinion I think the bible is bullshit
and I support gay marrige 100%
being gay doesnt make you any less human
and marrige is about love, not your sexuality or gender
I find it disgusting how people dont like it,
marrige is about love, its between two people, just like straight marrige
...they cant have kids? so what
most of them can, others adopt chilldren that straight people get rid of
not to mention all the abortions that people get, manly straight people
marrige is between two people, not two people and somone who doesnt like I
its about love, not your gender or sexuality
and being gay doesnt make anyone ANY less human
we all breath the same air, we all bleed the same blood, we all feel emotions, ect were all the same, were all human
and no sillygirl, you seem to be blinded by your faith
marrige was created by a CULTURE
back in the day when christianity didnt exist, and people beleived in other gods, or nothing
marrige was created
then when cristianiy came allong IT corupted the idea of marrige
an the bible that as written by man has been reworded so many times, making up more bullshit along the way

they have the right to make their own decisions. I dont agree gay is good butt I still like gay people .. the same as regular people.. I think your a dumbass. their marriages are none of your business. if they wanna get married then so be it.

crap I messed it up

its:

Jesus loves the little children
all the little children of the world
red and yellow, black and white
They are precious in his sight,
Jesus loves the little children of
the world.

what ever happened to the song, god loves all the children, however it goes?

haha, its

Jesus loves the little children
all the little children of the world
red and yellow, black and white
Jesus loves the little children of
the world.

To be honest I don't necessarily agree with homosexuality, however in saying that I am not homophobic. I have gay friends and I am all for them being happy. I think marriage is a choice and it is a union between two people who love each other. As for those talking about the Bible, there are many religions and I think captainassassin nailed it in saying that it is now a matter of the state. I believe in freedom of choice and although homosexuality isn't something I necessarily agree with, I have never held it against anybody. I think some people need to put their judgements/ generalisations aside.

Grow up!!! Who are you to decide whether or not two people should be together?! Who cares if someone is gay, straight or bi? They are not effecting you in any way, so why are you sooo concerned about it? Why do you feel the need to butt into other peoples lives and say what they can and cannot do, what's right and what's wrong? It'd be just like people telling you that you're not allowed to / they don't believe it's rite for you to marry a women that you love. Love is love, whether it be with the same sex or the opposite. Everything you think, you have learned threw things like the media. Everyone says, Well no it even proves it in the bible It's a sin! WELL NOO. Who do you think wrote the bible??! No one knows for sure... how do you know it's not just the government trying to control the way people think? Nothing in the bible makes sence. So don't try telling me that it's because the bible says its wrong. But besides all that, it's good to have faith.. and you know what? I know lots of gays that are religious. Anyway, I'm so sick of people like you saying that its wrong. Get over it!!!

I hate debating this topic. I absolutely hate it. you get people that are religious fanatics that condemn homosexuals to the point that they are no longer human, and then on the other hand you get those individuals that have absolutely no respect for religious beliefs at all.

let's start treating each other like humans.
peace.

Your not being open minded what so ever. You take no thought in what I say, or even try to understand were im coming from. Therefore nothing will ever get solved. We have two different thought processes and theres really no need to continue since your not listening anyway.

***you were sitting there argueing with me when I was trying to help yall calm down and listen to each other like actual human beings.***

YOU started the argument... and you stating things that are FALSE, because you couldn't remember the TRUE information (even though that information is readily available IN THIS THREAD). Making false accusations doesn't 'help' anyone 'calm down' You've made it quite obvious that you aren't capable of mediating someone ELSE's discussion or argument.

So give up... as you can see you've only created ANOTHER argument... that you're losing...

***usually? Christianity isn't the only religion that has marriage rituals. And it certainly didn't START the practice, either.***

Never said only christians do it, and thats why I said usually not always.

***That was pointless... and totally irrelevant. If YOU were gay, you wouldn't be speaking against homosexual marriage... ***

But am I gay? no. and still your not getting the point if your dad got with another man or your mom got with another woman, would you be here? I dont think so. so its not pointless at all. Get another view of people being gay. Have you ever thought of that?

***You're implying that if an orphan cannot be adopted by a heterosexual couple, then they're better off NOT being adopted AT ALL?***

No, what im sayin is people complain how other people complain that a gay couple can not make children but theres thousands of orpahans. But yet theres also thousands of women who cant have children. Every child should have a Mother and a Father. Thats something a gay couple cant give, even tho one is suppose to act like the man and the other like the woman, its no comparison to a real father and a real mother of different sex. If a child has gay parents, how do you think that child is gonna feel telling people that he/she has two dads or two moms. How would you feel? Then later in life when you got older you start questioning, not knowing weather being gay was right or wrong because you see so many children with a woman and a man for parents and your the only one with two parents of the same sex. People need to think about how children would turn out if they had gay parents. What questions would up rise out of it? Sadly, there are many orphans still who grew up without foster parents, but for some of them it makes them stronger for others not so much. thats all im saying.

I am gay.

That said, I think you all need to grow up and realize that it is up to god to judge. You don't get to decide who or what is an abomination and though I'd argue that I very well may be, the man I am in love with is not. He is the most amazing, most wonderful person I've encountered in my entire life. He attends a Christian church. He lives the best life he possibly can and as an ex-psychologist, he likes to take people under his wing and to help them to get over their personal demons.

Of course this beautiful, upstanding and absolutely wonderful citizen would not be allowed the right to be married, if ever he desired to be, because he likes other men, thus automatically making him a terrible person, despite every single person who's life he's saved and who he's counseled through the challenges that their own life has placed in front of them.

Despite his part in the church, the US army and in the psychological community, he is a bad man... because he likes other men.

It's absurd.

Like I said in other questions like this. . . Marriage DID come from the bible and a man and a woman should marry. The whole getting married by a judge, If your getting married by a judge its not marriage, so people shouldnt call it that. I dont believe in gay marriage. When two people of the same sex love each other its not love its lust. If a man loves d*ck he can go play with himself same way with woman to woman. Marriage IS a religous ceremony, usually done in a church by a pastor or a preacher.Some people do not do it in a church but still have a pastor or preacher. It has nothing to do with the government. But the fact that they are married and share everything is involed with the government because the they need to have that information is someone gets hurt and they need to contact their husband/wife. Or anything else like that. But the ceremony itself, getting married, is religous. If anyone saids that love is love and they should be able to get married needs to just stop talking becuase if your mom got with another woman or your dad got with another man, you wouldnt be here now would you? How do you think those kids who have gay parents feel, growing up telling people they they have two dads or two moms? Yeah, I understand that their are lots of children out there who need to be adopted but thats what the women who cant have children are for. Gays and Lesbians can not have babies, doesnt work that way. Those babies who are not adopted and grow up without parents, it only makes them stronger to not take things for granted and be thankful for what they have. Most of them turn out just fine. As for the question, I am not in control in what rights they do and do not have. There for I can not tell you weather they have the right to get married or not.

What I say is this: Let Gays do what they want. I dont care WHAT they do. None of my buissness. And besides, its kinda like saying a black person couldnt marry a white person. But besides that, If everyone would stop snooping around in everyone else's buisness then you wouldnt know that gays want to get married. I personally dont feel like I have the right to say what a person can and cant do. That doesnt mean I think gays should run a round flaunting their gayness. And that feeling of not caring what others do moves into the state too. If they dont want gays to get married and they do what they need to do to make sure it doesnt happen then thats THEIR buisness!
Its all a matter of who has more control. Obviously the state has more control and therefore gays wont be getting married. Point blank. But I really dont care what they do, as long as some gay person doesnt try and turn me (which if they tried I'd be filling for a lawsuit so fast) Im cool with whatever they do. If you're not gay stay out of their buisness. Noone says anything to emo's who cut themselves. You let them do it because you feel its not your buisness. Well the same rule applies here, only to a different much wider scale.

***Marriage IS a religous ceremony, usually done in a church by a pastor or a preacher.***

...usually? Christianity isn't the only religion that has marriage rituals. And it certainly didn't START the practice, either.

***If anyone saids that love is love and they should be able to get married needs to just stop talking becuase if your mom got with another woman or your dad got with another man, you wouldnt be here now would you?***

That was pointless... and totally irrelevant. If YOU were gay, you wouldn't be speaking against homosexual marriage...

***Those babies who are not adopted and grow up without parents, it only makes them stronger to not take things for granted and be thankful for what they have. Most of them turn out just fine.***

You're implying that if an orphan cannot be adopted by a heterosexual couple, then they're better off NOT being adopted AT ALL?

Good grief...someone is trying to stir up trouble...

anyway why not let them marry, you don't have to sleep with someone of the same sex. The main reason I am for gay marriage is because it gives them the same legal rights as normal heterosexual marriages.

Someone I knew one was gay and him and his partner lived together for 20 years and worked together for all the things they had and then when the one partner died the family suddenly had the right to everything which is extremely unfair.

Also saying that God said that marriage is between man and woman...not everyone is Christian so you can't apply that law to everything.