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Man, with my experience being a felon is not the business. Its sick when your PO tell you how quick they are to violate you, but dont offer to tell you that you can expunge your criminal history! Im currently half way through my probation, and the day Im complete Im presenting the courts with an expungment motion.
Currently I own my own business, I figured I cant fire myself, so I offer assistance within and outside of my community regarding these very issues. Were called Brothas and Sistas MFCC (multi-functional community center) located in Pacoima California.
I encourage every felon to try the expungement process, you never know, you may get lucky expecially if your not a repeat offender, sex offender or murderer!
I've tried being honest to agencies, my work history is excellent, my criminal history has 1 drug possession with intent, and Im being treated like a terrorist. Than to top it off they say you do the crime you do the time, well when I accepted the terms an conditions of my probation I was never told that I will be opressed, denied food stamps, and given a minimum amount of cash, in an attempt to starve me and they wish I would fall for that trap, I euge all of you to stay strong and become your own business owner, dont fall for the systematic trap. They want to starve me and make me buy a quarter piece, and I refuse! I plan on leaving this piece of crapp as country a s a p!
IM LOOKING TO START A CLASS ACTION LAW SUIT AGAINST THE STATE AND FEDERAL GOVERMENT FOR OPRESSION. THE STATE GOVERMENT PUNISH US BEYOND OUR TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF PAROLE OR PROBATION. I UNDERSTAND IF I WAS A SEX OFFENDER OR MURDERER. WHEN I ACCEPTED THE TERMS OF MY PROBATION I WASN'T TOLD THAT I WOULD BE DENIED FOOD STAMPS, AND GIVEN A MINIMUM AMOUNT OF CASH IN AN ATTEMPT TO STARVE ME AND LEAD ME INTO A LIFE OF REPEAT OFFENCES, WHICH I WILL NOT FALL FOR. I CURRENTLY OWN MY OWN COMMUNITY CENTER CALLED BROTHAS and SISTAS LOCATED IN PACOIMA, CALIFORNIA. IM HERE TO ASSIST MY COMMUNITY WITH THESE VERY ISSUES. 1-877-896-5444
I heard that navy, army and marines will help us? also places like fedex and ups? is that true?
marcus
WAIT WAIT WAIT!!! I'M PREGNANT AND GOING FOR FOODSTAMPS NEXT WEEK!!!
AS I STATED I GOT FIRED 2 WEEKS AGO DUE TO MY DAMN BCI!!
SO GREAT IM going to NOT GET FOODSTAMPS AND STARVE TIL I HOPEFULLY GET ANOTHER JOB!!!
IT TOOK ME FOREVER TO FIND THAT CRAP JOB I HAD !!!
IM SO SICK OF IT ALL..
IM going to FIGHT FOR MY RIGHTS!!!
I SAID IT BEFORE EVERYONE WE ARE HUMAN BEINGS!!
AND DAMN IT WE WILL GET OUR CHANCE!!!
IM BEHIND ALL OF YOU PLEASE DONT GIVE UP.
I WONT IF YOU WONT!!!
GOD ITS HARD!!
GOD BLESS!!
WAIT WAIT WAIT!!! I'M PREGNANT AND GOING FOR FOODSTAMPS NEXT WEEK!!!
AS I STATED I GOT FIRED 2 WEEKS AGO DUE TO MY DAMN BCI!!
SO GREAT IM going to NOT GET FOODSTAMPS AND STARVE TIL I HOPEFULLY GET ANOTHER JOB!!!
IT TOOK ME FOREVER TO FIND THAT CRAP JOB I HAD !!!
IM SO SICK OF IT ALL..
IM going to FIGHT FOR MY RIGHTS!!!
I SAID IT BEFORE EVERYONE WE ARE HUMAN BEINGS!!
AND DAMN IT WE WILL GET OUR CHANCE!!!
IM BEHIND ALL OF YOU PLEASE DONT GIVE UP.
I WONT IF YOU WONT!!!
GOD ITS HARD!!
GOD BLESS!!
We can moan about our situation or we can proactively do something to better ourselves. We cannot and should not depend on the government for our support. I agree that some of the laws need to be changed to keep society from discriminating wrongly against us.
But we cannot and should not look to the government to supply all of our needs. That is socialism and has been proven not to work. Our capitalistic society is not perfect but it is the best in the world. We ALL still have the freedom to move about as we wish and we ALL have the freedom to start and run our own businesses.
Things are not great for me right now, but I will not give up and I will press on. I may have to sell my home if things don't change but that is not the government's fault. I don't want them to bail me out. I want to bail myself out and I don't want to feel like I owe the government anything except my allegiance.
We can cry and moan about our lives or we can take positive action to make a change. I think if we would all start making our plight really known to our representatives they might have compassion on us and push for change in our behalf. That is what representative government is all about. The opposite of this is not what we want. Do we want some single person or small group of people dictating our lives. NO. We live in America.
If you just can't stand living here then there are plenty of other countries in this world that will take you. But remember, you will be in even a greater minority there and will not have the many benefits of living in America. Be sure and take your own clean water and living conditions with you because in many places you will not have that.
I messed up long ago but I am not giving on what we still have. Long live the the U.S.A.!
I'm not sure if what you said was directed at me James but I feel as though a government is for the people by the people.
I appreciate liberties that I am entitled to thanks to our forefathers who fought hard to ensure that our needs be met justly.
I am sick of this government though. I hate speaking on politics but all you need to do is pick up a paper look at gas prices check out the economy . People with NO background are drowning. I am speaking from a Rhode Island perspective.
That was my point ...
Take care
No Danisiena I wasn't directing that at you. It just seems like many times we are quick to want the government to come quickly to our aid, but liberty is all about being individuals without the big government intruding in our lives. Our freedom was based on individualism. We became a seperate and free nation to keep the government(s) we all came from to stop telling us how to worship, who we had to work for etc.
I am just an advocate of person freedom. And the more we ask big brother to help us the less freedom we will have as he intrudes on our daily lives. I am for being positive about our future(s). I am also being hit hard with gas prices here in Texas but I think the truckers are about to bring this all to a screeeching... halt, if you know what I mean?
Our economy goes in cycles and unfortunately for us all we are in a down cycle. But when it comes back in a few months things will pick up significantly and it should benefit us all. This is also an election year and things get rocky before an election. The pendulum will swing the other direction again soon.
I will be working on one of our congressmen here in Texas to let him know of the plight of the ex-offender and the bleak job situation for us. I think he will listen and respond back to me. Whether or not he can introduce legislation in our favor or not, I just don't know? But I will report back any results of these conversations when they happen.
I was able to make a few bucks this weekend by renting out a camper to come race fans for the NASCAR weekend. So I am starting to think outside of the box for opportuntities for income. I hope some of you will report back any ways in which you've been able to make more income.
Well James, you are obviously a well read, inteligent person. I completly agree with your view on big brother. The more independent we are the better. When I finally succeed I want it to be because of my hard work . I hope all you say regarding the gas situation comes to fruition!! It seems we must be self reliant as you are to make it. And it feels good when we make money our way honestly as you have.
So I hope you didnt take me wrong. I respect your view. I need to calm down. I was refused at another job. But what do I expect. I must keep going and rely on me.
Thankyou for your reply and your viewpoint. It is well taken.
I am not very familiar with the job or market in RI but I had a friend here that started a small window washing business to make some extra money in the summer and it turned out to be a very good venture. I'm sure your weather is different from Texas but with not a lot of supplies this is a job that can be done out of the trunk of your car.
If you have Home Depot stores in your area, they now stock the window washing supplies and have a very good selection of things. But since it is a different market you might have to find some other supplier there.
You basically go online and find out the details of how to correctly wash windows and then you get some business cards printed up and just walk into strip centers or other small businesses and tell them you are the window washer and give them a quote and ask tell them you can do the job right on the spot. Just keep it simple. Some customers will ask to come back on a regular basis. Others will also want you to come do their windows at home.
This is just one of many ideas of businesses that really work. My theory is this, if you sling enough mud on the wall some of it has GOT to stick, meaning if you just keep going into business after business someone will give you the job of cleaning their windows. It is a simple and clean business that you can do pretty quickly. Let's say you charged $20.00 per store and you did 5 per day on the average you'd make $100.00, maybe more. If you did all of that in 5 hours or less you would make at least $20.00 per hour, maybe more. It will add up quickly. I think you will agree it beats scrubing floors!
Just another one of my hair brain ideas (that I know will work)
Hey I like your ideas!! My heads so full of so many different problems I cant use my intelligence like you!!
Very good idea. Right now its warming up , up here. So thats always a positive thing. Thanks for the idea.
And you are very correct about it being better than scrubbing floors and getting my scumbag ex boss rich!!
Hello Everyone,
My story is simple like many of the stories here. I really like the fact that we can talk like this amongst such a broad spectrum of individuals. Experience is the best teacher we all have. I truly believe that we have to make a conscious effort to be reliant on the skills that we have, but also be open minded to more ideas. Abundance is all around us. It's just a matter of how we attack whatever situation we are in with a clear mind, and integrity. True we are felons, true we made mistakes, but that does not dictate to us who we truly are. I am a 2Xs convicted felon. My first was in 2001 and I just recently got a second last year. My understanding is this though, those happenings don't truly define who I am. I have held several jobs over the years, as a matter of fact when I got my first felony I was fresh out of the military. Even in spite of that I still don't give up. I have an answer to the question but I would sincerely like to share an article that changed my view of a lot of things. Corporate america is a liar, it wants us to believe that our past should determine our future. I am living proof, that non-sense is ridiculous. If you would like to receive the article I am talking about just email me and I will get it to you asap. Once you have read my response please click my profile and drop me a line, and I will respond.
This is a web site that has some information for felons to find resources to acquire jobs. Some states have more assistance than others. If you dig deep into some of the organizations, there is information on how to expunge your record and what is legal and illiegal to ask in each state as far as employment questions.
http://www.hirenetwork.org/resource.html
Here is some information you may find useful:
Asking job applicants to indicate whether they have been convicted of a crime is permissible but Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 appears to restrict an employer's ability to use criminal background information in the hiring process (42 USC. § 2000e, et seq. ). The Equal Employment Opportunities Commission (EEOC), the federal agency that enforces Title VII, has decided that disqualifying people who have criminal records from jobs is discriminatory because the practice disproportionately affects African American and Hispanic men. (Those two groups have much higher criminal conviction rates than do Caucasian men. )
The EEOC has ruled repeatedly that covered employers cannot simply bar felons from consideration, but must show that a conviction-based disqualification is justified by “business necessity. ” The legal test requires employers to examine the (1) nature and gravity of the offense or offenses, (2) length of time since the conviction or completion of sentence, and (3) nature of the job held or sought. Under this test, employers must consider the job-relatedness of a conviction, the circumstances of the offense, and the number of offenses (EEOC Compliance Manual, § 604 Appendices).
Hope this helps!
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There are real jobs out there. You just have to find them. To fulfil the requirements of unemployment in Texas I have applied to at least 4 employers every week for the past 5 months. Finally I was able to get an interview this past week with a company in the Dallas area.
Being over 50 years old has it's own set of challenges in finding a job. As some of you know most places want younger employees than those of us with snow on the roof. If you get close to having someone hire you then you have to pass the background check and drug checks. The background usually knocks us out.
But I found an employer that when I was interviewing with mentioned that they believe in second chances. The subject of my conviction had not even come up yet. I figured that would eliminate me. The guy went on to say he had been convicted of burglary when he was 19 years old and given a 10 year probated sentence.
Then I also found out that the owner of the company had also been convicted of possession about 15 years ago. So I was able to tell him about my own situation without fear.
He said that you would not believe how many people will come into a job interview and when asked if there is anything on the record that could be found will say NO when in fact they do have a record. If they check no and do have a record they will not hire you. So once again, honesty is the best policy.
After clearing that hurdle I met with the owner of the company a few days alter and I got an offer letter in the mail over the weekend for a job. You might say this is just fluke and very rare but let me tell you that there are a lot of smaller companies out there that will hire felons. You just have to find them.
This particular fellow and company ascribe to and believe in a higher authority. They also believe in grace and forgiveness. If you can find such a person and company you will be given an opportunity to show what kind of person and worker you are.
The building or rebuilding of your dignity can come from doing an excellent job whatever that job happens to be. Also having the highest standard of personal integrity will allow you to have others begin to trust you.
SO do what you say you will do. Lead out and be the best that you can be in all that you do. Those are such unusual qualities these days. They will be recognized by others and you WILL be rewared for them. It is just a matter of time.
I will continue to work my small business on the side to make money to try and set aside for retirement. I encourage everyone reading this post to find something that they can do as a side business. It doesn't matter what it is. If you can make a few bucks a month you will be surprised how that will help you self esteeem. Plus you will be creating multilple streams of income and reduce your taxes because of all of the tax benefits of self employment.
I will continue to post here and offer suggestions. I will also try and find employers in this area who I am aware of that will hire convicted felons.
If you are in Texas and would like more info about the Non-Disclosure laws available to you go to: http://www.sealmytexasrecord.com. There is information here that may help you keep others from seeing your record and allow you to legally check NO on your applications. Since I didn't take deferred and didn't plead out, I am not eligible to do so, but your case may be eliglible for this right.
Sorry for the long post...
Not all hope is lost guys... I have a felony on my record from 12 years ago...I was on vacation with my cousin, she shoplifted several music CDs..and because the amount was over 150.00 (162.00)..it was a felony. We were far away from home, scared and at the mercy of them. Our public defender said to plead guilty..so I did.
I have no problem getting a job..I even got a job with the state last year. I almost had my criminal justice degree when this all happened 12 years ago..and I didnt finish it because I was so downhearted. But I just explain to potential employers what happened, and surprisingly, I've not had any trouble obtaining the jobs I've wanted.
Point is...keep your hope and faith...It's not fair to keep paying for our past mistakes..but unfortunately this country is very judgemental and it wont change..but there is always Hope. Good luck!
I guess the word for the day should be Hope. I am facing a 5 yr stint, I have applied to over forty jobs and I have been upfront with them all telling that that I will be on probation. No one company said ok we will take the chance. So I decided that I was going to do the time because of the difficulties some of us have getting work. Yesterday one of the non-profits that I applied to called, talk about a head game.
I had already made the decision to go and do the time and probation isn't the best way to go but atleast I will be able to make the decision myself. I guess I need to say as others, just do not give up, I will take this job and as others had mentioned here find something you are passionate about and put it to work. Also I had applied to trade schools, unfortunately they do not take convicts until a year after your convicted, and believe me I tried to convince them that they were making a mistake. There are certain individuals that I want to thank here for their support and again there is hope, just look into yourselves and you will find it.
I applied at road masters truck driving school to become a pro truck driver. The guy at the school said my felony conviction would keep me from getting hired on with any trucking company so why bother with school tuition and book costs, so I said forget it. I have tried everywhere to get a job. Every application now asks if I have ever been convicted of a crime or felony. When I mark yes, I never hear from them again. I give up. I am soon to be homeless and it is just so depressing. My civil rights were restored but that doesn't do a thing for getting a job. What a game. We're screwed.
The trade schools I talked to were MMI, I had called upon some dealerships before hand and spoke to the HR's and said they will hire, I know it is tough. Dont let the prick at the Driving school determine your path, call the trucking companies and explain your issue before and find the one that will hire you. There are some even though few that will take the chance
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