Swine flu : a conspiracy

I've been reading up on the new H1N1 virus subtype
its a pretty weird virus
they say its a mix of 4 different strains that have come together to form this new virus...

but the thing is why now?
since the pig flu has been around since the first...

pandemic in 1918
couldn't this mix have occurred earlier, because according to scientists this virus actually mixes inside the pigs to form new viruses... it had about 90 years to mix so why right now and why is it goverments have no idea where this started...

also this new strain is totally unknown and has never been seen before...

another thing is this, if it started in mexico how could it have migrated to spain and such without the help of humans? I mean this strain was exclusive to the americas and now its spreading in europe, this cant be just a coincidence I think...

Oh no, not another conspiracy theory.

Look, as several of the excellent answers above point out, viruses mutate and spread very easily. This one is simply a slightly different mutation beecause also avian flu virus seems to have been involved - which is totally plausible.

And as for the spread of the disease to different continents, any reliable news website will give you the details. The health authorities know who the people are and exactly which flights they were on, from North America to Europe.

For example, one case has now been reported from Denmark. The person (a young woman) is known, as is the fact that she had been on holiday in New York and contracted the disease there, before landing in Denmark, where she was rapidly put in a hospital isolation ward.

There is nothing sinister or mysterious about any of this, and the facts are readily available online.

Travel of human's took it out of the Americas

Actually there have been cases of the H1N1 virus before in 1958 was the first recorded one,then in 1976 in Fort Dix an army recruit had it but didn't spread.
Again in 1988,1998
and then another case in the Phillipines in 2007 and right now,so it's been around for quite awhile,and it's not totally unknown or else they wouldn't have of already had the antivirals tamiflu and relenza to cure and prevent it.
President Ford even recieved the vaccination for the swine flu.
It was tranferred by pigs to humans and then humans to other humans read up on your facts!We have planes,planes CAN go to other countries.
How can it be a coincidence?

*** but the thing is why now?
since the pig flu has been around since the first pandemic in 1918

Hopefully, you will agree that in 1918, the technology to create a new flu strain did not exist. If you agree with that, then you have to concede that new flu strains develop naturally. That doesn't mean that this one necessarily developed naturally, but why should we think otherwise?

Who benefits from a pandemic, and do those same people have the means to create it and a willingness to do so knowing it is possible they will be caught? If it were shown someone did this intentionally, they would face capital murder charges in multiple nations.

tamiflu and relenza cant help you in this case sorry sueles

as for the planes I dont think thats the case of the flu spreading... just heard of a new case in germany, the woman that was infected never did go anywhere near the actual place where the flu 'boom' occurred...

***Who benefits from a pandemic, and do those same people have the means to create it and a willingness to do so knowing it is possible they will be caught?***

simple answer really, the pharmaceutical company's are one of those people who benefit then there are the guys that press the money we use, by giving money to states that use it to fight the pandemic they win huge % back...
its not the first time this has happened...

@susila2

the avian flu? hmmm you do understand thats a reason why it could be all a set up
H5N1 (avian flu that occurs in humans) has a different genetic code than H1N1 (swine flu in humans) the two cant mix... why? because they are 2 different types of flus that contaminate 2 different base species... also (according to the net) H1N1 is made up of 4 strains of swine flu (avian wasnt mentioned anywhere)
fact is the 4 strains couldnt have come together by accident and not in such a controlled way as to infect MAINLY humans... again I strain the fact this is a BRAND NEW virus and its DIFFERENT from the others that occured through history

***your dumb... The UN being government is the orgonization that says it's a man made virus... Like get an education or at least google.***

The UN, is NOT a government it is called the UNITED NATIONS...why don't you go get educated on the subject.

Be it by antigenic shift or drift, all viruses mutate.
Through this mutation your body is not able to recognize the specific strain of virus that it is already immune to. Thus we all have the ability to be reinfected. Each time it mutates, it will not be recognized by the antibodies in place naturally or through immunization. Influenza virus infects the epithelial cells of the respiratory tract so cover your mouth and nose when you cough or sneeze and then wash your hands.
Is this a bad virus, yes.
Should we be hysterical idiots running around in face masks, no.

Wash your hands, get enough rest, eat a healthy diet and seek medical treatment at the first sign of serious illness.

Actually the pharma companies do not make money on a flu outbreak from a new strain of virus. They have a tremendous monetary loss at this stage.

Your absolutly right, the UN is a colection of government represntatives... They regularly carrie out investigations of varios types... Health being one of their primary concerns... Of course a the unted f#cking duche bags of america are a permenent member of the UN, no investigations are ever carried out regaurding United States policy... THIS MEANS THAT THERE RELEASE OF THE INFORMATION REGUARDING H1M1 IS NOT IN ANYWAY CONDEMNING OF THE UNITED STATES...
Yes it is a man made virus more than the UN have released this information however it's origon hasnot been determind and the virus' that formed the H1N1 were not native to the america's (ie. they would be most vicious towards people living west of the atlantic ocean). I'm sure that if it were a [americain]government consperacy that the release method would have been much more devistaiting to initiat heavier panic. Also the fact that Pestilance hasn't come up surprisses me though I'm quite happy to see that the christians have simmered down about the second coming.

ALSO: The UN is infact considered (at least outside of the closeminded USA) tobe a government organization of it's own...It consist only of government members, and has full government rights in developing contries as well as it's own military... And physical location...

PS... My IQ is 110, (135) with Adult ADHD clasification... I'm sure amercains think that is low however it is standardized as 100... This is an officail clasification... AND I DON'T GIVE A F#CK ABOUT SPELLING

what a low IQ
standard for your age is 115 just so you know...
no it isnt considered a government outside the US (I should know im not in the US)
it is though in places where there is NO government at all...

@utopia

remember the 1976 outbreak? over 40 million got vaccinated, the state vaccinated those people, the pharma companys made the vaccine... they didnt do it for free...
even if the vaccine cost 1 dollar, theyd still make millions...

It appears that way but I have worked in medical research for more than 25 years. The amount of money pharmaceutical companies spend to develop a vaccine is enormous. Most don't want to develop new vaccines because after the initial outbreak the vaccines fall into the category of unstable demand regarding production, shelf life and public use.

HHS just awarded $487 million contract to build the first U.S. manufacturing facility for cell-based influenza vaccine (U.S. Department of Health and Human Services)
The cell-based influenza vaccine can be produced faster and in greater quantities than the traditional egg-based vaccine.
Two contracts were awarded to expand domestic vaccine manufacturing capacity (U.S. Department of Health and Human Services)
The two cost-reimbursable contracts totaling $132.5 million over five years are to retrofit existing domestic vaccine manufacturing facilities on a cost-sharing basis and to provide warm-base operations for manufacturing pandemic influenza vaccines.

That demonstrates just three production methods at a total cost of $619 million.

That does not include the cost of the initial research and development. My lab alone averages $1.2 million per grant for RD. We currently hold 6 grants. We are small and one of hundreds in my state, thousands in the U.S., tens of thousands across the world. The large RD facilities receive millions and millions of dollars in RD money.

It costs more than people can imagine to go from Phase I through Phase I've.
It takes many years to recoup the money initially needed for vaccine development.

Believe me, as quickly as a virus mutates, drug companies don't make back what they spend for RD on vaccinations.
They would much rather develop hypertension, diabetes, cancer, COPD, etc drugs...
Steadier income or the long haul.
They would not benefit from starting an epidemic.

I'm not the first to debunk a conspiracy. I have read the same articles as you. If this is a bio-engineered designer virus... the intent would be to explore the viability of the people consenting to martial law and governmental decree. I've heard rumor that NOVAVAX has a ready made vaccine waiting in the wings and it would not surprise me if it was purposely spread to line the coffers of a big pharmaceutical company, Their stock shares gained 80% when news of the virus aired.

I don't know whether this is part of a conspiracy or not... there isn't enough evidence to go on and although it fits a certain modus operandi there isn't much more to conclude on.

On the contrary... and looking at a player in biological warfare... there is proof of a conspiracy concerning the death of Dr. Bruce Ivins... a researcher at the Fort Detrick bioweapons facility. Dr. Ivins became the top suspect in the anthrax attacks which occurred shortly after the attacks of 9/11. Dr. Ivins overdosed on tylenol... in doing so he aided the FBI's investigation into the anthrax attacks... their main suspect was dead... they released their trumped up case against Dr. Ivins and considered the case closed. Dubious charges of Ivins harassing a Princeton sorority were the best evidence against the man. The character witnesses of a short term psychiatrist and counselor were the best the FBI could attain after 6 years worth of investigation. No motive as to why Dr. Ivins would wish to incriminate Muslims was ever mentioned. The fact that the anthrax letters were sent coinciding with the attack against America by Muslims seemed of no relevance at all to investigators. How can two separate criminal acts bearing such striking resemblance to one another be a coincidence? How could the person responsible for mailing the anthrax letters not been privy to the other attacks days before? If Dr. Ivins had been arrested and charged with these crimes... these questions would have been too great for the prosecution to overcome. If Dr. Ivins had had his day in court... the real suspect may have had the light of day cast upon him. This would have led back to the orchestrators of 9/11 themselves.. and that could not be allowed. Dr. Ivins was killed... or common vernacular suicided.

There was and is a much better suspect. Dr. Phillip Zack. Dr. Zack was recorded on Fort Detrick security cameras entering anthrax storage areas... after being terminated from his job at the facility. The reason behind the firing was due to Dr. Zack's harassing an Arab employee there. Dr. Zack has never been a public suspect of investigation by the FBI. Why?

The U.S. government is not above the releasing of bioweapons on the public. The case of Dr. Zack illustrates this...at least to the satisfaction of my own evidential requirements. My mind isn't settled on the case of this flu being the work of the government yet... but I am not ruling out the possibility.

Michael Rivero discussing the case of Dr. Ivins:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAYMd3RjFBk

the reason why is because diseases evolve over time
it might not have been the same however many years ago as it is today

it could be different today than tommorow

the swine flu was blown out of proportion. most people who were suspected of H1N1 just had the flu

you said its in europe now. easily. someone gets the swine flu, gets on a plane, maybe gets other people on the plane sick, and spreads it in europe. technologies a b*tch huh?