President? barack or mccain ?

I definitely like barack & biden but some like mccain & palin. who do you like better? justt wonderingg =)

obama, cause mccain wants to continue the war. he is basically another george bush

I'm not American but still listen to some of the speeches - I like Obama much more.

I like Mccain and Palin more because they seem much more legit, and all the "change" Obama is talking about is just a way of getting votes. Can you think of what might actually change in the peoples benefit? And at least Mccain has some political background and might actually know what he's doing, unlike Obama, who took 20 years to realize his pastor hated Israel.

oaklandathletics - and Palin supported Pat Buchanan when he ran for president.

A few Buchanan quotes on Israel and Jews and the Holocaust, which he isn't sure happened and Hitler, who he thinks was a great guy. And don't forget his line for Reagan that the SS troops were victims, just like the jews killed in the camps.

Palin supported THIS horrible anti-semitic man for President of this country. Wore a button supporting him that was in the papers.

Buchanan referred to Capitol Hill as 'Israeli-occupied territory.' (St. Louis Post Dispatch, 10/20/90)

During the Gulf crisis: 'There are only two groups that are beating the drums for war in the Middle East -- the Israeli defense ministry and its 'amen corner' in the United States.' ('McLaughlin Group,' 8/26/90)

In a 1977 column, Buchanan said that despite Hitler's anti-Semitic and genocidal tendencies, he was 'an individual of great courage...Hitler's success was not based on his extraordinary gifts alone. His genius was an intuitive sense of the mushiness, the character flaws, the weakness masquerading as morality that was in the hearts of the statesmen who stood in his path.' (The Guardian, 1/14/92)

Writing of 'group fantasies of martyrdom,' Buchanan challenged the historical record that thousands of Jews were gassed to death by diesel exhaust at Treblinka: 'Diesel engines do not emit enough carbon monoxide to kill anybody.' (New Republic, 10/22/90) Buchanan's columns have run in the Liberty Lobby's Spotlight, the German-American National PAC newsletter and other publications that claim Nazi death camps are a Zionist concoction.

Buchanan called for closing the U.S. Justice Department's Office of Special Investigations, which prosecuted Nazi war criminals, because it was 'running down 70-year-old camp guards.' (New York Times, 4/21/87)

Buchanan was vehement in pushing President Reagan -- despite protests -- to visit Germany's Bitburg cemetery, where Nazi SS troops were buried. At a White House meeting, Buchanan reportedly reminded Jewish leaders that they were 'Americans first' -- and repeatedly scrawled the phrase 'Succumbing to the pressure of the Jews' in his notebook. Buchanan was credited with crafting Ronald Reagan's line that the SS troops buried at Bitburg were 'victims just as surely as the victims in the concentration camps.' (New York Times, 5/16/85; New Republic, 1/22/96)

Definitely McCain & Palin will do a much better job looking after the American people's interests !!

Of course McCain and Palin. But I'm wondering how many people are going to continue to ask these questions...it's probably the most asked question on here.

It's not going to make much difference at this juncture...the first 3 years will be spent getting the economy back on it's feet...and neither candidate seems to know much about the economy...

"Promises" will have to wait till 2012...

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I like Obama..

MCCaine and Palin better.
I'd rather have them in the WhiteHouse then Obama and Biden. MCCaine 08.

Obama is a racist, socialist/marxist, and can't be trusted. I am NOT a McCain fan, I vote we get 2 more candidates and another 3 months to decide. If I have to vote for 1 I guess it will have to be McCain, because I refuse to vote for a racist and Obama and his Rev Wright have made it clear they do NOT like white people, of course you won't hear Obama saying that anymore, he is too close to being elected. Read his books, he wished he could "Expunge my white blood"...his words. He also is close to a founder of the weathermen, who want to "overthrow America". This is a guy (William Ayers) helped bomb a judges house, and planned to bomb the pentagon and police stations, amnd Obama launched his political career at this guys house. Wake up people, we don't need a racist of either color in the white house.

We need to fix our system. We keep getting terrible candidates from both sides.,...something is wrong.

primordial, you are an idiot...

Please provide the source for the claim his books said he wanted to "Expunge my white blood". It is simply not true.

Define "to a founder of the weathermen". They lived near each other, and were on the board of an anti-poverty group. Oohh... So radical. Has Obama ever endorsed Ayers actions? No he hasn't. He did not "launch" Obama's political career. He supported him, and hosted a "cofee" fund raiser. Please tell me how this in any way reflects on Obama. I am sure every politician has a supporter that have checkered backgrounds.

I think you need to look in the mirror to see who is a racist. Show me one racist comment Obama has ever made. Please provide source and context.

eidt on the previous post. It was meant to read:

Define "close to a founder of the weathermen"

Jimahl,

You are the idiot, and you do not even have the courage to be honest. It is funny that whenever someone points out a black racist they care called racist. Obama DID write that he wished he could expunge his white blood, I heard him read the text from that book. Do your own research, I am not going to spoon feed you. Ayers helped plan attempted bombings of the pentagon, police stations, and military recruiting stations. He admitted he did this and says that he "didn't do enough". He thinks killing police and declaring war on America is cool, and Ayer's didn't "host a funraiser" this was Obama's political coming out party. I don't care if a terrorist tried bombing our country a year ago or 40 years ago, I would NEVER associate with him. McCain has never said one racist word, Obama's book is FULL of racism. He also yelled "AMEN BROTHER" while Rev Wright was saying that white people are the devil. Another friend of Obama's said that God wants them to kill white people and that it is a good thing. I am sorry if you are not honest enough to discuss the facts, you just wallow in your ignorance and call people names to take the heat off your racist candidate.

primordial, please prove what you say, it isnt called spoon feeding, it is simply called backing up the B.S. you claim to be true...

ty, you are lazy. I am not allowed to post links here and even if I could you would simply say they are lies. I told you what to search for, read and learn yourself.

"I am not allowed to post links here"

exactly who is preventing you from posting links? as far as I know there is no rule against posting links, maybe you should discuss it with the creators of the site if you're having trouble posting links

and uhm so what you're saying is you dont have a credible source (or any source at all really?)

you said you heard obama say something, well where exactly did you hear him say this... it is from his own mouth, I cant exactly deny something that he apparently said himself...

Primordial, Please show me where I was being dishonest?

If you are so sure Obama is a racist, then there must be some evidence of him saying something racist. Not even Wright said anything racist. Might it be that you think any black man who is angry over the way blacks have been treated, and voices that anger, is racist.

And please show me where I said Ayers didn't do those bombings. I said nothing of the sort. You said Obama was close to him. I asked you to define close. They were on a board of a non-profit organization together. That is it. They are not friends, and Obama has denounced his militant activites that occured when Obama was EIGHT YEARS OLD!!!

If you think I didn't attempt to do research to find your "expunge his white blood" quote, you would be wrong. I am very good at research, and I couldn't find anything about it.

And if you post something as fact, and you are questioned on it, it is YOU that must provide the source. If you can't, then it must be a lie. If it is up to other people to prove you wrong, then you can just lie all day, as long as no one can PROVE you are wrong. And I post links on here all the time, so I am not sure what you are talking about.

I am more than willing to discuss facts, if you actually posted any. So far it is only accusations with nothing to back it up. You even post more BS again about Obama and Wright. While wright's style leaves much to be desired, I have yet to hear anything from the man that is not true.

McCain voted against MLK Day as a holiday. He was in favor of leaving the confederate flag flying over the South Carolina, saying it was a symbol of heritage. Of course he has since backpeddled. If he is not a racist, he has no problem pandering to them.

Please stop posting if you can't provide sources for your accusations.

This post mostly addresses Jimahl, although it is a response to ty too. Ty has been civil so any venom in this post is aimed at Jimahl in response to his rudeness. Ty I am addressing some of your questions here, but the “idiot” statements are purely for Jimahl. I disagree with Ty’s way of thinking, but I won’t attack him for it, just a friendly response

I read the FAQs wrong, it said no links in questions, not answers, and so I will provide you with a few. I just did a quick scan of the FAQs when I joined and I am trying to live up to the spirit of the site.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-Ho9uO5M-k Here is a video of him reading from his book, it was his friend Malcolm X who wants to expunge his white blood, Obama just admires Malcolm’s racist @ss. Of course Louis FaraKLAN, Ayers, Wright, and Obama all live in the same neighborhood, but I am sure you will chalk that up to coincidence. Trinity has given Louis FaraKLAN many awards, because Trinity church is nothing but an outreach for the Nation of Islam. Trinity church is for racist Christians who were brought up to believe in Christ but still hate white people and agree with the basics of everything the Nation of Islam stands for. I was wrong about Obama making that statement on expunging his white blood, I only watched that video once and I will admit I thought it was Obama saying it and instead it was his hero Malcolm X with Obama speaking Malcolm’s words, unfortunately you are not honest enough to admit that the rest of the video shows a very anti-white worldview of Obama, and that his friends and heroes tell us all we need to know about who he really is. Obama was there when Wright said we deserved 9/11

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOnvwPWLFZ4

Again Jimahl, you show your propensity to evade the FACTS. Here is what you say that shows you are a dishonest tard “They were on a board of a non-profit organization together. That is it. They are not friends” Again, Obama started his political career in Ayer’s living room, and they are not friends? I guess you wouldn’t mind having a terrorist who declared war on your country and tried to murder families, including children, hold a coffee klatch for you, as long as it met your ends. They visit each other’s homes, and they exchange ideas, yeah...Obama is wonderful. I wonder why all our enemies want Obama to win the election...duh.

As far as Wright and you “not hearing anything that isn’t true from him”, well I guess you just identified what you are and what you believe. Let me straighten a few more facts for you then. Africans claim to be the kings and queens of Egypt, That makes them one of the first and one of the worst slaveholders. Blacks/Africans enslaved the Jews and murdered them after they built their tombs. Africans also fought tribal wars and took each other as slaves for thousands of years. When the Dutch and Portuguese slave ships showed up many of them were sold into slavery by fellow Africans. Africans have been slaveholders for thousands of years, and they still are today. As for American blacks none of them seem to be rushing to get back to Africa to enjoy the starvation, AIDS, and pestilence that continues to consume them. Every race, creed and color has been enslaved and treated badly at some time, only the others overcame their adversity by hard work, they didn’t sit on street corners drinking 40s and waiting for a check to come that they didn’t earn. So when I hear Rev Wright I have no compassion for the bullsh@t he spews. I do admire people like Alan Keys, Bill Cosby, and Colin Powell, as well as the many other black people I know personally who are intelligent, successful, and hardworking. I never hear them complaining that America is unfair because they took responsibility to make something of themselves, they didn’t sit around all day whining about how unfair life is….WHAH!!! sniffle sniffle.. People die floating on rickety boats to get here to escape oppression, and Rev Wright cries about how unfair we are...HAH. He represents the worst of black culture, and every self respecting black man and woman should condemn him. I do know from the many Africans who come here that they consider the Rev Wrights of the world an embarrassment and an abomination. They are the Africans who work hard during the day and then at night attend classes to become Engineers or whatever. They can’t stand the kind of lazy American black that Obama caters to.

You can call me racist all you want. I have hired many blacks, Asians, women, ...whatever, because I look for and embrace diversity, and nobody is watching or telling me I have to. I don’t need to tell you I have black friends, it sounds lame and I don’t validate myself by what a loser on the Internet thinks about me. I don’t suffer from white guilt as I never owned a slave nor did any of my ancestors. You are either a racist black or a white man suffering from a heaping helping of white guilt. I would have loved to vote for a Democrat this election, to send a message to the Republicans that I am tired of their cr@p. I don’t let a party tell me who to vote for or what to think. Unfortunately the Democrats have picked the most divisive person they could find. I will not vote for a racist socialist who hangs out with terrorists and marxists. I don’t like McCain, and I would rather see us get two new candidates and start over, but at this point we are left with the lesser of two evils, and that is McCain.

Obama’s friends at ACORN are under indictment in 18 states for voter fraud. Many of his friends in Chicago are under indictment for corruption. Read this link (Tyh, you said you would do research) and see how the Community Reinvestment Act that Obama and his friends helped push through caused the housing market crash that has led us to the financial trouble we are in today. http://www.theminorityreportblog.com/blog_entry/blue_collar_muse/2008/09/27/cra_acorn_obama_democrats_and_the_housing_market_crisis George bush did not tell Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to make loans to people who can’t afford to pay them, Obama and his thug friends at ACORN pushed that through. Read, learn, and become less ignorant if you are capable.

Oh, by the way, did you know it was southern DEMOCRATS that fought against civil rights? Here is some more information about one of the Democratic heroes.
Robert Carlyle Byrd (born November 20, 1917) is the senior United States Senator from West Virginia and a member of the Democratic Party. Byrd has held the office since January 3, 1959. He has served as a Senator for 49 years, 278 days, making him the longest-serving member in the Senate's history. He is also the oldest current member of the United States Congress.
Byrd joined the Ku Klux Klan when he was twenty four in 1942. His local chapter unanimously elected him Exalted Cyclops. When running for the United States House of Representatives in 1952, he announced "After about a year, I became disinterested, quit paying my dues, and dropped my membership in the organization. During the nine years that have followed, I have never been interested in the Klan." He said the Klan offered excitement and was anti-communist, therefore he belonged to the Klan in the 1942-1943 period.[4] However, in 1946 or 1947 he wrote a letter to a Grand Wizard stating, "The Klan is needed today as never before and I am anxious to see its rebirth here in West Virginia and in every state in the nation."[7]

Byrd joined with other Southern and border state Democrats to filibuster the Civil Rights Act of 1964[15], personally filibustering the bill for 14 hours — a move he now says he regrets.[16] Despite an 83 day filibuster in the Senate, both parties in Congress voted overwhelmingly in favor of the Act, and President Johnson signed the bill into law.[17] He also opposed the Voting Rights Act of 1965, but voted for the Civil Rights Act of 1968. In 2005, Byrd told the Washington Post that his membership in the Baptist church led to a change in his views. In the opinion of one reviewer, Byrd, along with other Southern and border state Democrats, came to realize that he would have to temper "his blatantly segregationist views" and move to the Democratic Party mainstream if he wanted to play a role nationally.[4]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Byrd

Why black people think the Democratic Party has their interests at heart mystifies me. The Democrats have always been at the forefront of segregation and bigotry, it is their legacy. They only use the lazy blacks to get elected so they can get power, and they do so by promising handouts, which further demeans and weakens black culture. Bill Clinton had almost no African Americans in his cabinet, George Bush has the proverbial melting pot. I am no friend of Bush, but he gave far more opportunity to minorities than Clinton ever did. Any strong black man or woman should be horrified by the way the Democratic Party has debased them, but some are too ignorant to know better.

Try reading this if you are literate enough to finish it... http://www.newswithviews.com/Ryter/jon212.htm

Again, people like you without the courage to address this intellectually will lash out with name calling. You turned the heat up on this discussion by personally attacking me Jimahl, which was unwarranted. Unfortunately you lack the intelligence and education to ever debate with me, you are a crybaby who can only speak to his “impressions” of what is going on because you lack the intestinal fortitude to have a real discussion or to really read and learn. I admitted my mistake in ascribing something to Obama that he did not say, but you will never have the courage to admit your mistakes. Wallow in ignorance sir, or have a civil discussion without the name calling...it is up to you.

Here is the link again for the information on how Obama and his friends at ACORN helped cause this financial crisis. It looks like it got cut off in my post.

http://www.theminorityreportblog.com/blog_entry/blue_collar_muse/

2008/09/27/cra_acorn_obama_democrats_and_the_housing_market_crisis

Paste everything from 2008 on th end of the slash

Ohh Boy... We have a live one on the line...

That is quite a rant there primordial. I still see a lot of accusations with nothing to back them up. If you think a a couple of YouTube videos and right wing blogs are valid sources for your "facts", then I completely understand why you are so misinformed.

I am more than willing to debate intelligently, if you posted something intelligent.

This is just the first line of one of the blog links you provided:

"In 1991 a young Muslim Harvard Law College graduate named Barack Hussein Obama (who has denied his Islamic past and Muslim roots for as long as he has been a public figure) became a civil rights community activist working out of the Trinity United Church of Christ. "

Do you really expect anyone other than the most extreme wing nut to give any creedance to an article that begins like this.

And what does Robert Byrd have to do with anything? Yes, he is a repentant former racist. And yes, many southern democrats were against the civil rights movement. They were the Dixiecrats. And their opposition to the civil rights movement is what drove them to leave the Democratic party and join the GOP.

First you confuse Malcolm X with Obama, then actual claim that Malcom X was a friend of Obama's. Obama was 3 years old when Malcolm was killed.

Well you certainly spent a lot of wasted time on this rant. Care to try again with some real sources?

My points were tied together perfectly; you just are a little too slow to keep up. The confusion of Obama reading Malcolm's words was perfectly understandable, as that was just about the only thing he read that were NOT his words, and I wasn't watching the video the whole time, I was listening and doing other things.

It WAS Obama's words when he kept going on about white people and how ignorant they were, the whole thing was a racist tirade. Of course you lack the integrity to admit that or to recognize that I was man enough to admit I was wrong about that one single point.

My entire post was coherent and accurate. Your fantasy about the Southern Democrats morphing into the GOP was laughable, and your ridiculous description of Byrd being “repentant” is bizarre and shows how intellectually and morally bankrupt you are. Let me post parts again since you are a little slow

“I have never been interested in the Klan." He said the Klan offered excitement and was anti-communist, therefore he belonged to the Klan in the 1942-1943 period.[4] However, in 1946 or 1947 he wrote a letter to a Grand Wizard stating, "The Klan is needed today as never before and I am anxious to see its rebirth here in West Virginia and in every state in the nation."[7] Byrd joined with other Southern and border state Democrats to filibuster the Civil Rights Act of 1964[15], personally filibustering the bill for 14 hours. Byrd, along with other Southern and border state Democrats, came to realize that he would have to temper "his blatantly segregationist views" and move to the Democratic Party mainstream if he wanted to play a role nationally”

Lol, so after saying he saw the light while he was still engaging the Klan and finally realized “Byrd, along with other Southern and border state Democrats, came to realize that he would have to temper "his blatantly segregationist views" and move to the Democratic Party mainstream if he wanted to play a role nationally”

Yeah, he sounds REAL repentant. By the way, he is STILL a Democrate, he didn’t turn into the GOP. I guess you forgive racists as long as they are Democrats…….LOL, what a fraud you truly are. Sorry, the Republicans believe in personal responsibility for everyone and so do intelligent African Americans. Democrats believe in buying the votes of lazy black, whites, Hispanics, you know, stupid people who can’t compete and want somebody to give them everything while they sit on their ass……people like you.

You lack the intestinal fortitude and tenacity, as well as the intelligence to respond to my extremely lively discussion of facts and truth, so you ignored it all and focused on one point I already conceded, I made one error. Your posts are nothing but errors and misstatements. By the way can you show me the link that says the racist Southern Democrats became the Republican party? I now challenge you to post a link, although I am sure you are too lazy to find one (it doesn’t exist).

There is no question Obama’s allegiance belongs to the Muslims. Both his fathers were Muslim (his mother was an atheist) , he attended Muslim schools during some of his formative years, he celebrated holidays at the mosques, and he hangs out with Louis FaraKLAN and Rev Wright (who offers the Christian version of FaraKlans speeches). He can drape himself in Jesus all he wants, he has the heart of a Muslim….if it quacks like a duck….

Honestly it doesn’t matter, you are prone to believe what you want because you don’t have the courage to open your mind to the truth. Obama hangs out with terrorists, murderers, socialists, and Marxists, these are undisputed facts. I guess if you didn’t buy into the doctrine you would be an outcast among the people you hang out with, and you simply don’t have the courage to be honest about any of this, so you duck every valid point and focus and two or three things that we might have a real debate on. It is OK, I understand you weren’t prepared to have a real discussion, you just wanted to call a white boy who doesn’t agree with you a racist.

Racist Democrats became the GOP….LOOOL, that one is going to keep me laughing all night. Embrace your ignorance; it is all you have left.

Gnight.