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Like or dislike gays?

Asked by fau 10 months ago, 57 answers.

I don't think they should be given the right to adopt children and get married. I'm not religious, I just don't like thinking of my child having to grow up seeing something that is just logically wrong.
And I don't like the fact that I could be taking my...

son through the park one day and he see's some guys making out. I'm sure it will confuse many children, this gay stuff. And don't tell me you actually believe a child who grows up with 2 gay parents is going to turn out normal!!
What do you think?

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The Fiance and Me at a Luau Answered by mandyloo on Jan 07, 2009, 12:37PM
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Who are you to tell someone that they are wrong and should not have children?

I'm a bisexual woman, if I had ended up with a woman I have every right to have children and raise them and love them, just a straight couple would. It's not logically wrong for two people to be in love and want to share something as wonderful as raising children. What's wrong is opinions like yours.

It only confuses children when you have close-minded idiots such as yourself telling them that it is wrong. There are tons of children that have been raised to realize that gay people are people too and have rights.

Also, I know gay people who have children, and their children are completely normal. While on the other hand - I assume yours will come out to be close-minded little ignorant children just like their father.

You have no right to tell people that they can not be in love, have children, or express their love the same way that straight people do. Did you forget that we have feelings too?

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I'm thinking Answered by freelance on Jan 07, 2009, 04:46PM
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metalgirl, who isn't bisexual these days? I knew that would happen lol.
captainassassin, human nature really wasn't the right thing to say, anyways, thanks for reminding me that marriage really does have religious origins, and since I'm not religious, I don't really give a f***, so whatever. Let them marry :-P It's all unpreventable, so I'm just going to get used to the idea I guess.

The Fiance and Me at a Luau Answered by mandyloo on Jan 07, 2009, 01:27PM
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No I had a wonderful childhood with very accepting and wise parents who did not judge people based on who they love and taught me good morals. Thank you.

I'm thinking Answered by freelance on Jan 08, 2009, 02:04PM
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Mandyloo, I won't go back through everything and quote all the stupid $hit YOU said, it would probably take me all day. But you'd just lie and say you never said the things you said like you always do. I got PM's from people telling me how you attack everyone who doesn't agree with you and how you shove your opinion down everyone's throat. Here's some fun advice, STOP IT.

The Fiance and Me at a Luau Answered by mandyloo on Jan 08, 2009, 06:39AM
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Believing in God gives us a reason to live. Instead of going around living my life to please myself, I know I have a purpose. I try to live to please God, although I have just as many faults as you and I mess up

I am NOT bashing your religion so don't get confused. I am saying that not everyone believes in God, so it's silly to say that everyone should have to follow Your God's rules. Also, I don't live my life to please myself, and I still have a purpose. You can have morals, a purpose, etc without believing in God. My purpose for being here - is my son. I have morals and I am a good person, and there is nothing wrong with trying to please yourself. If you are trying to please yourself - most of the time you know what you should do and you turn out to be a good person.

Hmm, how does people believing that homosexuals shouldn't get married and have children any business of yours? It affects you in no way right? WRONG! Obviously it affects you because you clearly get upset by it. Homosexuality goes against everything I believe in. So yes, it does affect me just as my beliefs affect you.

It affects me because I'm a bisexual woman, if I ended up with a woman in the end, because of Your people's laws that I don't even believe in, I would not be able to get married. That's ridiculous. We love just the same - and we should have the same right. Just because it goes against what you believe in - does not mean that it affects you. If you dont like gay marriage - simple - don't get one.

I don't in any way believe they are less of people. I already stated that. They are just as equal as me. Again, with my beliefs. God did not give them that right or privledge. The privledge of marriage was given to be between a man and a woman, not homosexuals.

This scentence contradicts itself and makes you a hypocrite. IF you didn't believe that they are less of people than you - they would deserve the same rights. Yet you believe it's ok for them to have their rights taken away. Also, again I and MANY other's do not beleive in YOUR God, so why should we be forced to follow HIS rules.

Wow! Comparing skin color to homosexuality? They are clearly very different things. I don't believe people are 'born' gay

You can not believe it all you want, there is scientific evidence that prooves that people are born gay. I find it funny that you refuse to believe in something that HAS proof and believe in a God that has NO proof. They are not different things. You would be discriminating against them each because of something they can not change. Have you ever been a gay or bisexual person? If not - then how do you truly know if they decide to be gay or if they are that way. Seriously.

I'm thinking Answered by freelance on Jan 08, 2009, 05:29AM
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I find it humorous that if someone came on here saying black or mexicans were disgusting, wrong, immoral, and should not be allowed to have children - that people would JUMP on their butts and the post would be deleted.

Well I wouldn't jump on their butts (because I'm not gay lol) but I would defend them. A different ethnicity is something normal. While gayness has to do with something in the genes.

In 1993 came the biggest news: Dean Hamer's discovery of the gay gene. In fact, Hamer, a Harvard-trained researcher at the National Cancer Institute, hadn't quite put it that boldly or imprecisely. He found that gay brothers shared a specific region of the X chromosome, called Xq28
http://www.boston.com/news/globe/magazine/articles/2005/08/14/what_makes_people_gay/

So I guess you could say gays were born with it.

But wow, aprettywastex2, quit with the religious BS. I don't understand how you can lie to yourself SO MUCH just to comfort yourself and give yourself a purpose for living. If there was a god, I'd think that he would enjoy it if people like you would live your lives a little more instead of wasting your time worshiping him and $hit. If not, he's a selfish prick :-)

lens flare Answered by captainassassin on Jan 08, 2009, 12:48AM
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***Homosexuality goes against everything I believe in.***

Yeah well... you don't know much about your own religion in the first place. According to YOUR faith, ALL sin is equal in God's eyes, and all can be just as easily forgiven. Just as easily forgiven as any sin that YOU yourself have and/or will commit in your life...

***God did not give them that right or privledge. The privledge of marriage was given to be between a man and a woman, not homosexuals.***

Religious marriage is TOTALLY different from the LEGAL DOCUMENT recogized by the government. And because of separation of church and state, religious views are of no consequence in the issue. Besides, the Bible doesn't say homosexuals can't get married.

***Wow! Comparing skin color to homosexuality? They are clearly very different things.***

The statement was said to emphasize the idea that some homosexuals are BORN that way. If you could just wrap your brain around the POSSIBILITY... then the comparison would make total sense.

***I don't believe people are 'born' gay.***

...but you don't KNOW that they aren't...

lens flare Answered by captainassassin on Jan 07, 2009, 05:16PM
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Bravo.

You should also keep in mind, the idea of homosexuality being a choice, ALSO has religious origins. So you shouldn't be so concerned about your child being influenced.

Besides... YOU are your child's biggest influence. More than anyone else, by your actions and words. So its FAR more likely that your child 'behavior' will mimic YOUR behavior... and NOT two guys making out in the park.

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Me (brunette) and my bff Holly Answered by aprettywastex2 on Jan 07, 2009, 07:42PM
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This is another thing I have a problem with. God should not have anything to do with Marriage in my opinion. Not everyone believes in Your God so why does he have any say so in who we marry. Silly really.

You're right. Not everyone believes in God. The reason I believe he has every right to have a say in marriage is because he created us and he created marriage. No, it's not silly actually. Believing in God gives us a reason to live. Instead of going around living my life to please myself, I know I have a purpose. I try to live to please God, although I have just as many faults as you and I mess up ( But that's another story).

Telling someone that the should not be allowed to love, marry, and have children - is hate. It's one thing to not agree with the lifestyle - but what business of yours is it if they want to get married and start a family. It affects YOU in NO way whatsoever. Why are they seen as less of people and having their rights taken away. Explain that to me.

No it is not hate. I don't truly hate anyone, that still doesn't mean I agree with marriage between homosexuals. Hmm, how does people believing that homosexuals shouldn't get married and have children any business of yours? It affects you in no way right? WRONG! Obviously it affects you because you clearly get upset by it. Homosexuality goes against everything I believe in. So yes, it does affect me just as my beliefs affect you.

I don't in any way believe they are less of people. I already stated that. They are just as equal as me. Again, with my beliefs. God did not give them that right or privledge. The privledge of marriage was given to be between a man and a woman, not homosexuals.

I find it humorous that if someone came on here saying black or mexicans were disgusting, wrong, immoral, and should not be allowed to have children - that people would JUMP on their butts and the post would be deleted. Yet, it's allright for someone to say that about homosexuals. Come on. Either way you can't help who you are. You are born your race, your sexuality, etc. Hating someone for their skin color is the same as hating someone for their sexuality

Wow! Comparing skin color to homosexuality? They are clearly very different things. I don't believe people are 'born' gay. Yes, there are certain hormonal embalances that can cause a person to 'feel' different but it's the choice that defines a person. I know I have ungodly feelings time to time but I try not to act on them. We don't have the choice to what skin color we are. We do have a choice who we sleep with and marry.

The Fiance and Me at a Luau Answered by mandyloo on Jan 07, 2009, 05:40PM
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I'm just going to get used to the idea I guess

I just read this - and I apologize for the rant above, but I still like it needed to be said. The world changes - and we just have to learn how to deal with. There are no more gay people than there was before - the world is just more accepting and people are able to be themselves now.

I am sorry if I got very upset and defensive in this post, you just have to understand from anothers point of view how offensive what you have said is. I have been through so much crap because of my sexuality when I was younger (it wasn't cool to be bisexual when I was in school). I've been beaten up, I've been tied to fences, I've had my car spray painted on, bibles and quotes in and on my locker, I've been called every name in the books, had holy water thrown on me in the hallways, and so much more. I've had to go through all of this - because of something that I can not change. It just bothers me so much when someone is going to sit there and say that I am less of a person than them and should have my rights taken away.

The Fiance and Me at a Luau Answered by mandyloo on Jan 07, 2009, 05:30PM
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Wow, did you really just say Marriage is Human Nature. It's not human nature at all.

Also, the child seat were not such a crazy comparison when you are using the argument - that things have been around for years so they must be right. That argument is ridiculous.

Also, I NEVER tried to falsify that a penis was made for a vagina. If you would read my post CORRECTLY you would see that I said that it was made for a vagina. I simply asked if you participated in Oral Sex since you seem to think that the only use for a penis is to go in a vagina.

Marriage is a contract between a man and woman in front of God
This is another thing I have a problem with. God should not have anything to do with Marriage in my opinion. Not everyone believes in Your God so why does he have any say so in who we marry. Silly really.

Telling someone that the should not be allowed to love, marry, and have children - is hate. It's one thing to not agree with the lifestyle - but what business of yours is it if they want to get married and start a family. It affects YOU in NO way whatsoever. Why are they seen as less of people and having their rights taken away. Explain that to me.

I find it humorous that if someone came on here saying black or mexicans were disgusting, wrong, immoral, and should not be allowed to have children - that people would JUMP on their butts and the post would be deleted. Yet, it's allright for someone to say that about homosexuals. Come on. Either way you can't help who you are. You are born your race, your sexuality, etc. Hating someone for their skin color is the same as hating someone for their sexuality.

Me (brunette) and my bff Holly Answered by aprettywastex2 on Jan 07, 2009, 03:54PM
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I do not believe gays should have the right to marry. Marriage is a contract between a man and woman in front of God. People with our opinions are not 'spewing hate' mandyloo, we have every right to have an opinion. Apparently you seem to believe your the only one who can? Just because it differs from yours does not mean we are ignorant or stupid or any other word you wish name.

If he wants to post something, he can post it. That's what this place is for, is it not? It's not just what YOU think is okay to post. Not all people who disagree with homosexuality spew hate. I do not. I don't believe it is right but like a person said above, Hate the sin, love the sinner. I have gay friends, I love them just as much as my straight friends. However that does NOT mean I agree with what they are doing.

As for kids. I have seen gay parents treat their kids better than straight parents. I don't think it's 'healthy' to be in that enviorment but like I said, I have seen amazing parents who were homosexuals.

Also, YOUR freedom is speach is a lot less importanat than gay rights that afffects millions of people. You are only one person who is insulting millions of people - you are less important.

No it isn't and no he is not less important. You are not above him and you cannot judge who is less important. In God's eyes, we are all equal and that includes homosexuals. We all sin! I don't like people bashing homosexuals either and I will just as soon stand up for them. Again, that doesn't mean I agree with it. I don't like anyone bashing anyone for what they do. I think we should show our concern out of love, not hatred and criticism.

I'm thinking Answered by freelance on Jan 07, 2009, 03:39PM
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Mandyloo, marriage has been in human nature between man and woman for those hundreds and hundreds of years while child car seats were invented in 1962 and it's technology, not nature, I don't know how you can compare the two. And it's crazy that you would try to falsify the fact that a penis is made for a vagina. But hey, what do I know, I'm just some ignorant fool who cherishes logic, culture and tradition. I'm done here, nice talking to you.

:D Answered by thatgirl69 on Jan 07, 2009, 03:16PM
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im sorry but my brother is gay and married his partner! they now have a beautiful girl and a beautiful boy (both 13 - theyre twins) I spoke to them asking if you missed out on anything and they said

we go to school every day and people hate their parents, all we know is we have two parents who are in love, know how to raise a family, and have taught us that we should be accepted for who we are, but it is not always the case.

I understand you may think that gays may mess up a child (not literally) but at the same time I can assure you the only thing remotely odd is when my niece started her period recently I had to explain it to her from a womans perspective.

And I know pleanty of other gay couples with children who are doing amazing jobs.

Yes, it may confuse you, hey! it confused me when I was little. But now I get it - my parents are typical hate the gays and quite frankly, they sicken me, when I think of the best parents BOTH couples are same-sexed.

Unfourtunately your going to have to accept that your excuses of it may confuse the child only works around those who drill it into a childs head that gay is unnacceptable.

The Fiance and Me at a Luau Answered by mandyloo on Jan 07, 2009, 02:45PM
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Freelance - may I ask you something. All arguing and fights previously aside.

You are saying that they should not be together because logically a man and woman are only supposed to be together - because a penis is made to fit in a woman's vagina only.

Do you participate in oral sex? If yes - then according to you that is not logical and it's immoral and wrong. Penis's were not meant to go in people's mouths. Yet, I bet you love getting blowjobs right?

You also can not justify things by saying - Oh well it's been done this way for hundreds and hundreds of years - so it's right.
We used to not put children in car seats - that's a new thing. Yet, we have learned now that it's the safest thing to do. Are you saying that we should not put them in car seats anymore because hundreds of year ago they didnt?
Also, slavery was around a LONG time also, in your way of thinking. Why change things, we should all still have slaves.

Do you understand how that logic is insane? It's a different world and a different time. Things change - and you have to learn how to change with them. We learn more about life and new things all the time, and to still follow old rules or ideas is crazy.

I'm thinking Answered by freelance on Jan 07, 2009, 02:25PM
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underwaterophelia, thank you, I wasn't trying to hurt anybody's feelings, I was just stating my opinion and asking others what they think, they were the ones forcing their way of thinking on me, this is right and that's how it should be and your stupid and ignorant for thinking the way you do, and I'm the rude one? Why do minorities have the right to bash on others but not the other way around. Weird system we have...

The Fiance and Me at a Luau Answered by mandyloo on Jan 07, 2009, 01:23PM
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That is not what I said - learn to read. I am saying that ONE persons opinion (yours) is not more important than Gay Rights.

Just because you didn't curse - does not mean you were being nice and sensitve, you are telling people that she are gross, should have their rights taken away, and should not be allowed to have children. Come on

me Answered by kingofadvice on Jan 07, 2009, 01:18PM
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lady..

its king of advice

get it straight

and im not defending anyone

Im saying this gay has expressed an opinion

and this is FUN ADVICE dot COM

not BE MAD AT PEOPLE WITH QUESTION dot COM

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I'm thinking Answered by freelance on Jan 07, 2009, 01:21PM
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lol wooow. You're well educated mandyloo, so you're saying there's more gays in this world than people who can talk? lol and I wasn't being sensitive? I stated my opinion without any cursing or being rude, what the hell do you people want? Nothing is ever good enough is it.

Broken Heart. Answered by emoxcore2 on Jan 07, 2009, 12:47PM
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Uhm, excuse me?
I am not one to get angry at someone for stating their own opinion, but this somewhat crosses the line.
As Mandyloo stated, who are you to tell people who they can merry?
You can't.
Telling people who they should love, and if they love the same sex that they are wrong and gross, is definatly without a doubt wrong.
I am a lesbian, and I will not just sit there and be told who and who not I should love.
I strongly believe that the child with 2 parents of the same sex will turn out normal. They will be open-minded, and caring children, unlike how your children will turn out.
We Do Indeed Have Feelings just like any other straight person.

Answered by ashli27 on Jan 07, 2009, 01:14PM
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okk, well its natural to you to feel the way you do to the opposite sex
and it is for them
and if every1 was gay and you were the way you are now.. you would feel no different and would want to be treated equally and to have kids and to get married..

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