I need to know the brand name of these pens...

For anyone living in the uk (or even better, northern ireland), I need to find the name of these kind of pens. a lot of schools buy them in large amounts. the pen casing (the plastic layered tube) is bright red with black writing, and different...

coloured lids showing the colour of the ink. they come in thin for writing and thick for colouring. I remember seeing loads of them in primary school and high school, so these pens would have been seen by thousands of people. if anyone knows the brand name of these pens, it would really help me out. thanks. sorry there's no picture.

ohh I get what you mean umm is it calles a handwrighting pen ? somethink like that ?

No, that's not what I meant. I meant the brand name. I found out what it is anyway. It's Berol pens. They come in thick and thin, both writing pens and colouring pens. Not much use to me anyway because you can't buy them in Easons or any other place I've been to. You probably only get them from places like Macro and Amazon dot com and I can't go to either of those places. I'll have to find somewhere else that sells black drawing pens that won't go right through the pages, not permanent markers though. They're rubbish. Why they sell artist drawing pads and no drawing pens, I'll never know. =o(