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Certainly a pressing issue...considering your feelings for this young man...there is nothing we can do in regards to results. The only person one can change is themselves, often times with great difficulty!!! You are praying for your friend, and must live your life as a follower of Jesus Christ--in doing so, show Christ's love for your friend by your actions. Remember we are supposed to be fruit that grows from the vine. (John 15). His calling redemption is the Holy Spirit's work, not ours, lest we become gods ourselves. Encourage other believers you know to also pray for your boyfriend. Your friend in Christ, chaplainmack1
Haha. Funny story, I'm a Catholic and so is my boyfriend, but the thing is my boyfriend doesn't want to be Catholic! He considers himself a Athiest although he was baptised as a Catholic! We always have these intense debates about all our beliefs.
Basically, I'm not trying to change his beliefs. I honor his choices and thoughts. I think you should kind of do the same. I understand how you feel because when my boyfriend told me his thoughts I felt kinda crushed because I'm very strict in my beliefs and I didn't want religion dissagrements to come between us, but this is his life, and his choices. If he doesn't believe in god etc. then that's his choice, don't force your religion upon him. No one wants that.
'Isnt that like greek for fool?'
You don't want to push this on him, but clearly you don't have the slightest bit of respect for his views or why he has them. I doubt you even know or care why he's agnostic. You want some advice? Have him talk to someone else about matters of faith. Clearly, you're not Christianity's best ambassador.
Prayer is the best and most powerful one thing you can do for him and I would sit down with him and go over this site, looking up the verses as you go - just keep in mind no matter how much we want to help, it's a very personal choice to accept or reject - but realize by introducing him to Jesus, you're giving him the greatest gift you could ever give someone...both of you will be in my thoughts and prayers !!
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I really do understand your problem. I'm a Christian, too, and I come across people who believe in elvoution all the time. But the funny thing is, they usually don't get it. They question how things work in the evolutionary process. Agnostic means without knowledge because agnostics believe that there is no knowledge of a god, among other things. I've tried witnessing to my friends all the time, and I know it's hard, but just keep trying. He did say he would hear you out, so take advantage of that. He will either get tired of you bringing it up, or he will realize you are right and he will get saved. :] If he does get tired of you talking about it, he's probably not a boyfriend worth keeping. I hope you get through to him!!
A word of caution, are you aware of the biblical mandate, to not be unequally yoked to an unbeliever? If not, you ought to look it up, and study it, and seek advice concerning it. Before you ever think of committing to this relationship. The biblical warnings are there for our own good, and no matter what you feel now, if you fail to heed them, more than likely you will find consequences that you did not want to face.
Be careful too, of his conversion, in order to win your hand. That is not the right reason. He must come to the Lord, because he feels the conviction of the Holy Spirit, and chooses to live his life accordingly. Nothing else is good enough.
For your own sake, and the sake of your future, take it easy on this. Share with him, but, do not try to force him in any way, it will never work.
I say this out of love and concern for you.
If you are willing to wait, there are plenty of guys out there that are already committed to Christ, for the right reasons. In fact, if you seek the Lord on this, and not your flesh, he has one that is hand picked, by him, for you. But, in order to find him, you have to learn to crucify the flesh... and wait. Trusting... in his provision.
Be Blessed...
why are you trying to change him? how would you like it if he tried to change you? you should like him no matter what and if you try to change him it could just completly mess anything you ever had with him!
your pretty selfish if you try to change him, I believe in evolution but im open to the christianity thing, but trying to change someone isnt the right way to go about it, or you will end up a lonely old spinster
Well, the question about Creation/Evolution doesn't really sort the Christians from the agnostics, does it? The only question that can do that is: 'Is Jesus Christ your Saviour and your Lord?' So, where does he stand on that? His answer to that will tell you far more about his faith or lack of it.
Otherwise, you've had good advice from Christians like Silverwings and chaplainmack1.
braddersj - you have a very, very narrow view of Christian sex!! As a Christian married for 17 years I can assure you that you're thinking of a very confused minority, not the more contented majority.
ok in the bible it says that you shouldn't be yoked together with nonbelievers. that means you shouldn't be dating this guy. I know it might be hard, my ex-boyfriend wanted to kill god, but I had to break up with im because of it. you can still be his friend, and just live your life the way god wants you to. one day, when he thinks of you, he will think of god, and maybe he will want to become a Christian, because he saw how you were. and hopefully he wont do it just so he an be with you
A couple does not have to have the exact same worldview but they have to have mutual respect for each other's.
My 1st wife was Catholic and I'm an atheist. She never tried to save me and I never tried to come between her and her church. We did sometimes tease each other but nothing cruel. We did break up after 18 years but our religious differences had nothing to do with it.
It seems that your boyfriend respects your beliefs but you don't respect his. A good relationship can only come from mutual respect. If you can only respect a Christian than you need to cut your boyfriend loose and find a Christian boy.
Being agnostic is a position of knowledge, not belief. Given there are multiple religions in the world, many of which claim to the worshipping the one true god, you must acknowledge that either all the other are clearly deluded and you have lucked into the right one (unless you *choose* Christianity after examining all others), or you have been mislead and another faith is destined for eternal paradise. While this is not the forum to start examining the fundamental proofs of various religions (if there is such a thing), it is clear this young gentleman values such evidence above dogmatic belief born of lifetime indoctrination.
If you were really honest with yourself you would recognise that you only *believe* you have chosen the right god and Jesus was his Messiah sent to wash away the worlds sins. You do not know it without any shadow of a doubt, hence you are also strictly agnostic towards the idea. Of course some people will claim that they 100% KNOW there is a god, but such people usually do so with unusual zeal so that no facts can damage their precious, fragile beliefs. On whiff of evidence and the whole lot come tumbling down - it's all about faith remember?
Perhaps you should do as the inherent word of god instruct in the bible? I believe the passage is Deuteronomy 17 2-7. Invite him round - I'll get the rocks.
Evolution is not something you believe in. It is a scientific theory which has stood countless assaults by the very people who put forward the idea, their peers, experimentally verified hypothesis. The word theory may scare you, but it does not hold the same meaning in science as it does to the ordinary person. A scientific theory is a framework which explains observable phenomenon and verifiable facts. Where the theory make predictions, we can test them. When the theory is proven wrong it is adjusted to more accurately reflect reality, or in severe cases thrown out and replaced with a theory that better fits the new body of knowledge. The theory of evolution has withstood all of these attacks and continues to provide us with life saving medicines, better food crops, more effective pesticides, more productive animal breed, and healthier lives. No amount of religious bigotry can change this.
Instead of trying to change his beliefs, perhaps you should examine your own? Do you want to live your life in fear of the god or a far of desert nation who lived 2,000 years ago, and who will throw you into the eternal pits of fire if you displease him, or would you rather live in the real world and continue benefiting from the progress of scientific achievement (including the computer you are now using)?
I asked him if he believed Creation or Evolution. You know what he said? He said Evolution. That just crushed my dreams. evolution is not something to belive in it is a fact proven with evidence and carefull consideration agnostic in this instance means he is either a deist or an atheist deists belive in a god but no religion I am an atheist I belive in no god or religion he has probably been exposed to fossals like many people he has come to the conclusan that creation is a myth the 7 24 hour creation is a myth. no bs. if there was a god he took awile to do his thing starlight has to travel billions of years for us to see it my recimondation is you should go stargazing read a book or three on just other religions without beliving what they say without critacal thinking realize that galeleo was nearly killed by the church for star gazing and coming to a non dogmatic conclusion that the sun was at the center of the soler system and that what poeple have thought for thousands of years was wrong
just like slavery Exodus 21:16 forced brides Deuteronomy 22:28-29 and oh yes poligamy too Exodus 21:10 by the way where is your dad? hmmm ? I want to give him 50 sheckles ;P
Evolution is a necessary component of life. Are you saying you don't believe in life? You seem to be pretty young, so I will not fault you for knowing so little about the world. I hope that one day you will see that the Flying Spaghetti Monster is the one true God. May His Noodly Appendage bless you.
RAmen.
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How to help my agnostic boyfriend become christian?
Im asking this again in another category...because it isnt freakin showing up and its very important to me...so: Well I was talking with my guy. I asked him if he believed Creation or Evolution. You know what he said? He said Evolution. That just crushed...
my dreams. So we were talking about it...and he ended up telling me hes Agnostic or whatever. Isnt that like greek for fool? Or something...well he said he would hear me out. because im determined to bring him to a life with God and Jesus Christ. I think I need a little help. I pray for him all the time. But what would you guys do? want to give me some tips or advice? I mean...I dont want to...push this on him, but within time im hoping I can bring him to christianity...
Please and Thanks.