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The knowledge of man and the knowledge that God has are not even in the same ballpark. Man's knowledge can never know why God works the way He does. The bible thoroughly states this throughout.
The term everyone is using up to this point... 'killing' is not quite right. Yes, God did take almost all of mankind at one point because the world was so evil (makes you wonder where we stand in comparison nowadays). He promised mankind that He never to do it again, after the deluge.
The fact that God is a jealous God has to do with His love for us... not vengeance. He knows that if you make anything else more important in your life, that you will be doomed to misery and self destruction. This not only includes other deities, but everyday objects as well. Think about the biblical story of the man that came to Jesus asking what he needed to do to be saved. Jesus asked him if he had ever sinned. The man stated 'no, I have never sinned'. Now Jesus knew that the man had, but instead of calling him a liar, he simply instructed the man to sell everything he had, and follow Him. The man went away grieving because he was rich and didn't want to give up his possessions.
By doing so he broke the first commandment... no other gods! He actually made money (or mammon, in the bible) his god and placed it before the God in heaven.
A very powerful statement about man 2,000 years ago as well as today.
Placing your faith in anything other than Jesus Christ and what he did for YOU will lead to nothing but heartache and this is not what God wants for you. He loves you and wants a personal relationship with you and he wants nothing to be placed in between that fellowship.
God hasn't sinned he killed those people because they are covered in sins, and my dad says in the that in the bible it says unless you have a reason for killing (like prisons, they kill criminals) its ok cause theyre making the world a safer place, but those who just kill who are known as murderers and kill for fun or anger are commiting sins.
And I dont know about the verses if you can find a later translation it might help you understand a little better.
***What they mean by god is a jealous god is that he does not want you to believe in other gods.***
...yeah... ENVY...
***he killed those people because they are covered in sins***
...yeah... WRATH... Besides, YOU are covered in sin too. Why hasn't he killed you? There are millions and millions of non-judeo-christians in the world today, they're all still alive and sinning.
... CaptainAssassin... **...yeah... WRATH... Besides, YOU are covered in sin too. Why hasn't he killed you? There are millions and millions of non-judeo-christians in the world today, they're all still alive and sinning.** We indeed are all sinners... BUT, because Jesus Christ died on the cross for us, we arent being killed. =o] thats why we are still alive. and if we repent, and we believe in Him, then we are saved. =] oh yeah, and please do not take this offensively--im just trying to protect what I believe in. =]
***We indeed are all sinners... BUT, because Jesus Christ died on the cross for us, we arent being killed.***
That doesn't add up. To suggest God would just KILL anyone who sinned, would mean he'd have to kill EVERYONE. Then there'd be no one around for Jesus to sacrifice himself for.
God realized he was handling things the WRONG way (WRATH, ENVY, etc.), so he started doing things differently (Jesus). He made mistakes, and argueably found a solution. But he was still sinning before that, envy and wrath are sins God was committing before Jesus came along.
Our being jealous is different from God. We get jealous because we want to be more important than someone else. We are to care more about the interests of others than ourselves. God did that when Jesus died for our sins. God left Heaven, took on human form (became a man and still God), took the punishment for our sins so we can spend eternity with Him. When we place other people or things before Him, what does it say? He will not take second place; another reason there's grace.
***Our being jealous is different from God. We get jealous because we want to be more important than someone else.***
That is no different than the Christian god being jealous of other gods... jealousy is jealousy. Its still a sin, no matter WHO (human or god) is guilty of it.
You have to wonder why a 100% self sufficient omni-everything spirit being (aka god) has emotions at all.
The reason we have them is to drive our behavior away from things that can kill us, and toward things that promote successful reproduction. A god can neither be killed, nor do gods reproduce.
Envy and Jealousy are two DIFFERENT things.
en·vy (en've)
n., pl. -vies.
A feeling of discontent and resentment aroused by and in conjunction with desire for the possessions or qualities of another.
The object of such feeling: Their new pool made them the envy of their neighbors.
jeal·ous·y (jel'?-se)
n., pl. -ies.
A jealous attitude or disposition.
Close vigilance.
jealous
adj.
Fearful or wary of being supplanted; apprehensive of losing affection or position.
Resentful or bitter in rivalry; envious: jealous of the success of others.
Inclined to suspect rivalry.
Having to do with or arising from feelings of envy, apprehension, or bitterness: jealous thoughts.
Vigilant in guarding something: We are jealous of our good name.
Intolerant of disloyalty or infidelity; autocratic: a jealous God.
Simply a Rose to brighten your day,
And maybe lessen the cares in your way;
And also, too, to help you to know,
That in knowing you, many others grow!
***Envy and Jealousy are two DIFFERENT things.***
So I guess you didn't even READ the definitions YOU provided.
***jealous adj. -- Fearful or wary of being supplanted; apprehensive of losing affection or position. Resentful or bitter in rivalry; ENVIOUS: jealous of the success of others. Inclined to suspect rivalry.Having to do with or arising from feelings of ENVY, apprehension, or bitterness: jealous thoughts.***
The definitions support each other... Just as 'jealousy' and 'coveting' support each other. And as you know, coveting is a sin also...
Captain Assassin...
God hasn't done anything in the last 6000 years? He did something for me just today. I feel sad for you because you don't know what real love is.
I assume that you weren't born with defects or no arms or hands (since you are typing on a keyboard). I would call that a blessing from God. I believe that if you open yourself to the true love of Jesus Christ, that maybe you will be able to see the truth.
***He did something for me just today.***
...prove that God did it... otherwise, you are just subjectively attributing positive experiences in you life to God, which is pointless.
***I feel sad for you because you don't know what real love is.***
Oh how cliche, its hilarious how overused the 'real love' argument is used... such arrogance. Don't discount other people's experiences with emotion, just because they don't coincide with YOURS. Just because YOUR life sucks without religion, doesn't mean its the same for the rest of the world.
*** I would call that a blessing from God.***
I call it 'normal.' ...a mindset that God is blessing you when nothing bad is happening, is pure delusion.
***I believe that if you open yourself to the true love of Jesus Christ, that maybe you will be able to see the truth.***
Its not the truth, its only your BELIEFS. Deal with it.
***The fact that God is a jealous God has to do with His love for us...***
...irrelevant... it doesn't matter WHY he's sinning... he's STILL sinning...
***Placing your faith in anything other than Jesus Christ and what he did for YOU will lead to nothing but heartache...***
Bullsh*t... there have been COUNTLESS people around the world, who have led fullfilling lives WITHOUT Christianity... so stop generalizing, and definitely stop LYING... sinner...
captainassassin...
Sorry for touching a nerve. I was only trying to help someone (moe214) with an honest answer to a very good question.
You say that God is sinning... then maybe you ARE admitting that there is a God you may have to answer to? You are very correct... many people have lived very fulfilling lives on earth in spite of an intimate knowledge of Jesus Christ. And that would be great, however the key words here are 'on earth'... to the believer, this world is only a material, temporary residence. And of course, you also need to define your term 'fulfilling'... Money, Love, Harmony, Material Wealth, Family? I know of a great many people who 'have everything' and yet they can be some of the most miserable and unhappy people around.
You sound like a very smart person, so I am really looking forward to hearing your definition of a 'fulfilling life'. Take care.
captainassassin...
Sorry for touching a nerve. I was only trying to help someone (moe214) with an honest answer to a very good question.
Calling me a sinner doesn't hurt my feelings as I realize that I am and that I need help. That is where my faith in my God and Jesus Christ allows me to be comforted.
By the way, you say that God is sinning... then maybe you ARE admitting that there is a God you may have to answer to? You are very correct... many people have lived very fulfilling lives on earth in spite of an intimate knowledge of Jesus Christ. And that would be great, however the key words here are 'on earth'... to the believer of an afterlife, this world is only a material, temporary residence. And of course, you also need to define your term 'fulfilling'... Money, Love, Harmony, Material Wealth, Family? I know of a great many people who 'have everything' and yet they can be some of the most miserable and unhappy people around.
You sound like a very intelligent person, so I am really looking forward to hearing your definition of a 'fulfilling life'. Take care.
***Sorry for touching a nerve.***
You didn't... you're just being predictable...
***Calling me a sinner doesn't hurt my feelings as I realize that I am and that I need help.***
Of course you missed the point. If you're going to LIE and be deceitful, you are doing nothing but misrepresenting God and what is means to be Christian.
***You say that God is sinning... then maybe you ARE admitting that there is a God you may have to answer to?***
I'm admitting nothing, other than Christianity being contradictory... and you are unable to nullify this. Making suggestions about my beliefs, when you have NO IDEA what they are to begin with; is nothing more than a pathetic attempt to sidestep the issue at hand.
1) I don't define fulfillment with material wealth.
2) key words ''on earth'' implies an afterlife, something you cannot prove exists.
3) My definition of fulfillment does NOT require acceptance of Christian doctrines, something YOU obviously DO require. So its pointless for me to elaborate on fulfillment. No matter what I tell you, the absense of Christianity in a person's life will equate to unhappiness or UNfulfillment in your mind... which is sheer ignorance.
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God says he is a jealous god??



God says he is a jealous god??
I'm confused because in the Bible it says God is a jealous God (verses below)
However, jealousy is a sin, no? Isn't it considered as 'envy'??
Envy is a sin.
Please explain this to me because I'm confused.
Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor...
serve them:
for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the
iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and
fourth generation of them that hate me;
Exodus 20:5, KJV
For thou shalt worship no other god: for the LORD, whose
name is Jealous, is a jealous God:
Exodus 34:14, KJV
For the LORD thy God is a consuming fire, even a jealous
God.
Deuteronomy 4:24, KJV
Thou shalt not bow down thyself unto them, nor serve them:
for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the
iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and
fourth generation of them that hate me,
Deuteronomy 5:9, KJV
(For the LORD thy God is a jealous God among you) lest the
anger of the LORD thy God be kindled against thee, and
destroy thee from off the face of the earth.
Deuteronomy 6:15, KJV