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Gay marriage ban overturned in california

Asked by jimahl 2 months ago, 21 answers.

Should californias now be prepared for an earthquake as punishment from god?

You know, like when Pat Robertson said New Orleans got what it deserved with Katrina because they had a gay pride parade scheduled the week the hurricaine hit.

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Thunder Robot Answered by funadvice on May 15, 2008, 02:34PM

Hmmm...this time, I'm going to say God will go old school, and resort to some good, old fashioned fire and brimstone raining down on San Francisco and the Bay area.

Before he does this, he'll warn Arnold Schwarzenegger to leave the state. Unfortunately, Arnold will turn back to look on his beloved California and will be turned into a pillar of steroids.

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kitty Answered by ty on May 15, 2008, 01:36PM
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Either that, or like the fires they had out there... who knows what the wrath of God will bring...

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Not nice to laugh at other's short comings Answered by ethmer on May 15, 2008, 01:55PM
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God is not concerned with the sexual persuasion of the creatures of the world.

God also does not concern Itself with the affairs of the world, so God is not involved in 'punishing' man for man's perceived sins.

If the gay marriage ban was overturned in California then that is a good thing!

No person or people should be discriminated against because of race, religion or sexual persuasion.
 

me on the bus I was so tired there Answered by teresa_is_cool on May 15, 2008, 01:55PM
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no not at all it was a miss hap theres nothing wrong with gays and im sure god nos it so he wont do aney thing

the shirt speaks teh truth O_O Answered by informer_220 on May 15, 2008, 01:58PM
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if 'god' created life it means he created gays...

so tell me how can he punish something he created that way? think about it...

kitty Answered by ty on May 15, 2008, 02:01PM
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lol, people are missing the sarcasm here?

Toadaly Answered by toadaly on May 15, 2008, 02:34PM
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If so, I expect this god to lash out indiscriminately, like he always does, killing babies, children, and even fundamentalist Christians right beside gays and the people who overturned the ban. He's kind of a jerk in that regard.

dog Answered by amblessed on May 15, 2008, 04:52PM
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God is faithful and just - if you read the Bible, He hates the sin, not the sinner - time will tell.

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kitty Answered by ty on May 15, 2008, 07:57PM
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andyburton - exactly what problems are you talking about (surely not homosexuality, which has been around since forever? as depicted by early art?)

amoeba Answered by amoeba on May 15, 2008, 08:35PM
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marriage is a civil action. if your church doesn't approve of gay marriage then don't perform any...

I, for one, am proud of california!

diy metallica dress Answered by jazlovestoskate on May 15, 2008, 10:21PM
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theres nothing wrong with being gay
if you want to think 'god' has anything to do with this then continue doing so
but earthquakes are caused by a a lot of different things
and there is no force stronger than mother nature
and even still, mother nature doesnt discriminate against gays either

Answered by gasmanobt3 on May 16, 2008, 03:00AM
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My , my, the tongues are sharp on this one!! Keep in mind though that God, makes the sun to shine on the just as much as He does the unjust and rain to fall on the just and the unjust. God is no respecter of people, meaning their stature or position in life. In His eyes we are all the same. When we choose to live in a way that is contrary to His why wouldn't He see the need for reproof, rebuke and correction? Did not our own parents correct us when we went against what they said or wished? God does not punish arbitrarily and indescriminately, He does so for the sake of correction in hopes that people will turn back to Him. Do you think that we, Christians, don't get our fingers wrapped from time to time? We are not in any way better or perfect or higher than anyone else. I am embarassed when I read posts that rip people by some who claim to be Christians.
That said, it's up to God what He does next as far as the gay marriage issue is concerned. Living in Canada, we've had it for years and truthfully it saddens me greatly. Gays are forcing, yes forcing, their ways into churches and areas that they shouldn't under the guise of discrimintory acts. We are being made to allow them to be minsters in conservative churches based solely on their credentials. Throw the bible away and teach whatever comes to mind. Legalized gay marriage is the first step, then comes gay adoption, gay health care benefits and the list goes on and on. It's a fact in Canada and it will soon be that way in America also. I'm not against people that are gay, it's the choice of being gay that's the issue.

sad hat... happy day! Answered by flossheal on May 16, 2008, 03:57AM
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Hmm... I wondered why, at the time, the Hurricane in New Orleans was seen as punishment for sexual sin rather than environmental sin. Indeed, it may have been nothing to do with Climate Change, but if it was, surely we brought the punishment on ourselves by our consumer behaviour, not our sexual preferences... It's so easy, and sooo fun, to pick on someone else's sin, rather than your own...

I am a Christian and I believe that in the Bible God has told His followers to look on marriage as something between a woman and a man. I didn't notice the bit where He told us to use legislation to force our views on non-Christians, though. But it must be equally wrong if legislation is used to force non-Christian views on churches, so gasmanobt3's observations about the situation in Canada do alarm me.

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sad hat... happy day! Answered by flossheal on May 16, 2008, 03:59AM
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PS, mjax1979: 'Pillar of Steroids' - I'm proud to have you on my friends list!

Answered by jimahl on May 16, 2008, 06:21AM
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amblessed: 'God is faithful and just - if you read the Bible, He hates the sin, not the sinner - time will tell.'

So I take it you disagree with Pastor Hagee when he said: 'All hurricanes are acts of God because God controls the heavens. I believe that New Orleans had a level of sin that was offensive to God and they were recipients of the judgment of God for that.'

Will you show as much condemnation for McCain's for his close ties to Hagee, as you did for Obama and Rev. Wright?

Answered by jimahl on May 16, 2008, 06:51AM
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gasmanobt3: 'God is no respecter of people, meaning their stature or position in life.'

But you are...

First you say this: 'I am embarassed when I read posts that rip people by some who claim to be Christians. '

And then you say: ' Gays are forcing, yes forcing, their ways into churches and areas that they shouldn't ...'

Do you not see the contradiction here?

I agree with flossheal that government should not be able to dictate church personell, if that is even true. What other areas are you talking about? And how exactly are they forcing their ways? Are they forcing you to have sex with another man? Or are they just showing up places as a couple? OH NO NOT THAT!!!

Religious belief is not a valid reason to discriminate. In the past it was thought to be against god's will for a black and white to marry. So it seems god's will is not static.

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amoeba Answered by amoeba on May 16, 2008, 08:01AM
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gasmanobt3- after much research I am unable to find where homosexuals are forcing their way into canadian churches.
what I did find was that under canadian civil law, homosexuals may not be descriminated against because of their sexual preference...
homosexual activists have insisted that the churches conform to the ‘equality’ rights of homosexuals, as determined by the courts and legislation, and stop discriminating against them because of religious belief. Adoptions, social services, such as nursing homes, religious- based schools, marriages, employment conduct, etc., carried out by religious organizations will be held to secular standards, not religious ones.

so homosexuals want to have the same rights as everyone else, and are willing to stand up for their beliefs and rights as humans...

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Thunder Robot Answered by funadvice on May 16, 2008, 03:19PM

Didn't the voter of California vote on that, And if so isn't the csc ruling kind of a stab in the back to the voters of California?

Answered by gasmanobt3 on May 16, 2008, 06:35PM
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Well, speaking from past experience in that chosen lifestyle I can assure you that I do know a bit of what I am talking about. As far as the contradiction goes, I really don't think there is. Civil law states that everyone has a right to be treated fairly and I can agree with that, workplace etc. But, where I have the difficulty is when gays are demanding their rights to be allowed a pastoral roll in a church. I knew a lot of gay people who are very nice people and who didn't force their feelings or views on me even when I left the lifestyle. Neither did I them. The courts however, have no right making churches subject to such rulings as it underminds biblical church doctrine.
Case in point: I was told this week at our monthly church board meeting about a lady who, graduated from semenary school, got a job at a Christian organization and worked there. She was told at the time of her hiring that she was to voluntarily sign an agreement of a statement of faith. It included a statement about not be involved in homosexual behavior. Which she signed, voluntarily, without coersion having read and understood the statement of faith only to later reveal that she in fact is a lesbian and is now suing the company for firing her claiming human rights violations. She is manipulating the system because she knew what she was doing and what the expectations of the company were.

amoeba Answered by amoeba on May 16, 2008, 08:30PM
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churches that refuse to ordain homosexuals, against their 'mother' church directive, may leave and strike out on their own, cutting all ties with their 'mother' church. from my research, many in canada decided to do just that.
many people lie on their job applications. was she fired for lying or for being homosexual? the canadian civil rights act CLEARLY forbids denying employment to anyone based on religion, race, sexual preference, etc. most churches and religious organizations are tax exempt, to retain that status you may not deny an employee's civil rights.
she might have signed the paper but it was clearly a paper that was trying to base employment on sexual preference. and that is NOT allowed.
my hat is off to the canadians for having the courage and humanity to add the provision of 'sexual preference' to their civil rights act.
I wish my country were so inclined.

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...... Answered by hubberz on May 16, 2008, 09:28PM
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God created Gay people, so how would it be right of him to go and try and destroy something just because he doesnt think its right at the time. I know the thing about it all but, he made people gay so, shouldnt it be ok? He knew that people would be gay, so wouldnt he be alright withit instead of makin something he was against just so he colud turn the world upside down? One of my best friends are a gay couple and want to get married, but unfortunately it is illegal in Texas but, they go to church every Sunday and always give money and always are praying and signing right along, and leadnig church activies, and they are STRONG believeers in god, So, if they are ok, and enter his building. then isnt everywhere ok? xoxo

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