Evidence?

My elderly neighbour told me the other day that there are leprechauns in my garden (we live in ireland after all).

Silly me asked politely if she had any evidence for her (rather fantastic) claim.
Oh yes, she did... The bowl with milk that she leaves...

outside the backdoor of her cottage every evening is always empty in the morning. The 'little people' are so grateful for the milk that they have never bothered her (as leprechauns often can... Apparently). She is a nice old lady... And her cat is named winnie.

Is the disappearing milk evidence for the existence of leprechauns?

This is obviously a roundabout crack at the believers in God.

While I don't personally believe in God, I don't see why you can't just leave people alone...there's no need to make ridiculous posts to try and prove your point.

Considering that you haven't proven your point and the only thing you've proven is that you're basically a jerk who can't mind her own business.

Seriously, back off already - all you ever do is cause controversy for the deists...not very mature on your part.

umm I din't think so it could be a cat drinking it someother animal

I know that some people in Ireland say that there are leprechauns, but I don't think that the milk dissapearing is evidence. Even though I have Irish in my blood, I don't believe in leprechauns.

hahahahaha thats hilarious. It's like asking for proof that the tooth fairy exists. The cat is drinking her milk

It takes faith to believe.

I don't really know. I highly doubt it but that's just me.

I'm Irish and I know the truth,
Leprechauns are stories that got morphed into something worse then it originaly was, it all started with a Dwarf family that lived on a spring in the hills some 400 years ago, it was the first known case of Dwarfism in Ireland, the people where curious about the little people and told stories to all their friends and family about seeing them, stories about their height was simply lost over the years and the story began to morph (as I said) into something worse.

And as Ichi said, stop trying to insult people for their beliefs, I don't believe in anything I cant see myself, thus I understand your point, but its immature to blab your mouth off about it to others, as immature as the hardcore christians and catholics that go around telling people they sin and they will go to hell, you merely stooped down to their level.

I'm getting the same vibe as amblessed and ichibanarky. This seems to be a cheap shot at people who believe in God. If you really think that this kind of argument can be used to prove that God doesn't exist, sit outside the old lady's house in the cold and watch the bowl of milk. If you get thirsty, maybe you can be the leprechaun for the night , lol. If people wish to believe in something, then they can. Sometimes beliefs can be proven wrong and sometimes they can't. At the end of the day it is best to believe in what we want to believe in and not press our views upon others .

Your arguments are lame. BTW I still dont believe in tunisia, just thought everyone should know.

OK OK OK!!!
I just want to know if any of you actually live in irelnd???
I rest mi case! some people believe in fairies and leprecauns (which come from ireland) and they can be real, we just dont see them.
xxx

Ichibanarky,

Allow me to dismantle your argument in chronological order.
'...This is obviously a roundabout crack at the believers in God...'
Not necessarily. This is a strait forward challenge for people who are prepared to think about extraordinary claims. However, that might include believers in God or god(s) or leprechauns...

'...While I don't personally believe in God...'
...sure..(?!).

'...I don't see why you can't just leave people alone...'
That became evident when you wrote:
'...there's no need to make ridiculous posts to try and prove your point...'
Now... I admit that I fail to see what is so ridiculous about this (authentic) story. Could you be more precise? Further, I disagree with your notion that one should not post an entry to make a point (in case that you have a good argument for the apparent ridiculousness of my post, you might be right that there is no need to post a ridiculous post to prove a point. But so far, I am not sure that you can back that up).

Now... there is still the unresolved matter of you not being able to see why I can not leave people alone...
First... on a website, one has the choice to participate in debate... if that person wants to be left alone... he or she should take responsibility for one's own a*s and get it out of the tread...

Second... there is a historical need to challenge people who have a tendency to be dogmatic in order to allow you and I and everyone else to have their say (if people like Erasmus, Plato or Sartre would have taken your advice, you would not have been in the position to express your disbelieve in God or walk around with a funny hairdo if that happens to be your wish).

Third... as long as people make extraordinary claims on this web-site, I will be interested in their ideas. However, I would like to see some extraordinary evidence before I buy those ideas...

Fourth... as long as people make undignified comments about hunger, sexuality, social safety, etc. in relation with divine providence, I will question their morality. And if that morality is fed by their religiosity, I will challenge that too!

Next: '...Considering that you haven't proven your point and the only thing you've proven is that you're basically a jerk who can't mind her own business...'
This sentence is not finished; you consider that since I was not able to prove my point, that... yes? That What? And by the way, what point did I not prove exactly?! Was there a point to prove?
Anyway... your claim that I have proven that I am a jerk (a contemptibly obnoxious person, according to my dictionary. Don't tell my boss) and that I cannot mind my own business is correct (well, I will ignore the 'jerk' part. I leave that sort of judging up to people who have a better inside in my personality than you have.

Last, (I am running out of time, on my way to bash some believers-in-a-square-world) '...Seriously, back off already...'
No.

'...all you ever do is cause controversy for the deists...'
You should see me causing controversy amongst Theists... and the... uuuhhh... whatever.

Have to go... bye..

Well, I certainly have better things to do than read your entire rant, so you've posted it for nothing.

However, all I am going to say, although redundant, is that the ONLY thing you do is try to disclaim others beliefs...it gets to the point where people are getting annoyed, and when people start getting annoyed...well...that's a problem.

You seriously need to cut it out, or your obvious idealism can be construed as religious intolerance, which, might I remind you, is a direct violation of the ToU.

Consider yourself warned...please read:
http://www.funadvice.com/doc/terms

ichibanarky, If you don't like what she has to say, don't read it? Complaining about it does nothing.

Actually complaining about it does do something, lol. It's our job to keep the peace and ensure that people comply with the rules and do not attack the beliefs of others (in a flame-baiting sense). That is why I think the warning was given. How can she know she doesn't like what the question is about without reading it anyway ? Lol... Anyway, let's leave it at that shall we ?

aw, that's cute. Reality is in the eye of the beholder after all. It's her reality. To her that is evidence... As long as it doesnt hurt her or anyone else, there's no point in challenging her beliefs...