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yes; you can only do so much.
if mohammed won't come to the moutain, in reality the mountain will stay where it is...
you can throw a rubber ring to a drowning person, but you can't make them take it...
I am all for helping people who are depressed - REALLY - check my adivce, I am the first to recognise when theres a problem...but you really cannot torture yourself and make yourself feel like you should be doing more, when you can't.
you need to get some specialist adivce, and soon. I am not saying he will kill himself, what I am saying is, one day he may not be so lucky with his attempts.
you can only do so much, but he has a respoinsibility to have some influence over his own life, he must be aware there is a problem, if he really wanted to do something about it, he would. may be he's just not at that 'stage' yet.
the problem with cried for help ((such as extreme self harm, and positions where you are classes as 'commiting suicide') is sometimes, they really go wrong, and the cry for help is silenced by death...
all you can do is offer your support, but you have to make it clear to your friend, that his behaviour is really affecting you and how important he is in peoples life.
part of the problem with suicide victims is, they have actually concvinced themselves that the world is a better place without them...there in lies the danger!
all you can do is support him, don't indulge his problems, focus on the good things...
good luck. v difficult position to be in, my b'friend commited suicide a very long time ago, way before I was aware of signs or reasons of suicide...I know that I was a good friend to him, I just didn't understand what he needed...but I loved him, I was always kind to him and I couldn't have done more, at the time.
Self harm isnt a cry for help, it's a way of coping. He's hurting himself in order to keep alive. I know it seems like a twisted way of doing things, but it shows he's trying to stay alive. Problem is he could end up dying with his chosen method. Look, you cannot fix him. I know you're trying to be a good friend, and I'm sure you make things better. But you cant fix him. He needs a professional for that. You cant sort it out, you cant solve his problems. He needs to go to someone who can help him. That is really the best way to help him. A therapist is not a friend... people dont go to therapy because they have no one else to talk to... therapy helps people find other solutions to their problems, it helps them think in an entirely new way so that they dont have to hurt as much...
Thing is, no matter how much you listen and comfort, unless you are trained, you dont have the skills to get him to change the way he thinks... and that is what will help him in the long term...
Look this up, under family/friends for further info http://www.palace.net/~llama/psych/injury.html
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Ty's advice is good. If you can't get him to consult with a therapist, then try getting him to look at the two sites below.
Information on self injury:
http://www.helpguide.org/mental/self_injury.htm
Do you WANT to stop cutting? Then check out this site:
http://www.healthyplace.com/Communities/Self_Injury/BloodRed/stop/index.html
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My friend is suffering from really bad depression, he slits his wrists burns himself and sumtimes trys to top himself by taking pills, hes really nervous and doesnt like to speak to people im trying to get him to come to the doctors with me so we can...
sort it out but because he doesnt like talking to people he wont come I really want him to so we can sort this out any advice?