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Are they taking it too far?

Me :) Asked by beth_liveyourlife 10 months ago, 27 answers.

In Britain we are no longer allowed to sell Merry Christmas signs. The decision came because they don't want to offend Muslims living in Britain. Recently in a soap opera there was a wedding in a Christian church. The producers decided to hide the...

crucifix in the church as they did not want to offend others coultures and religions.

The question- do you feel they are taking this a step too far? Or if you are of another religion exept Christian would you feel offended if these precautions wern't taken?

Me when I'm busy Answered by arachnid on Jan 24, 2009, 07:30PM
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I love how certain christians try to play the persecution card. really, folks, it just doesnlt fly. you make up the majority of the population of the us, and the things youlre trying to cry persecution over are obvious blatant violations of separation of church and state. Give it a rest! you can't be both the persecuted underdog and the predominant ideological view.

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Whore. Answered by spartan512 on Jan 23, 2009, 12:33PM
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I think its way too far. People trying to take the under god from the pledge of allegiance... Come on people, just let it go.

People need to accept it, and let it go.

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Me! Answered by rubytoosday on Jan 23, 2009, 12:39PM
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That is taking it too far. I can't understand why everyone is so concerned with not offending anyone. Who cares if someone is a little bit offended from time to time? Its not the end of the world. As long as you're free to practice whatever religion you choose, just get over it if not everyone agrees with you and wants to show a different religion in public or on television.

Whiteboard portrate Answered by filletofspam (Online now) on Jan 23, 2009, 12:44PM
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Odd, the Brits I know usually say Happy Christmas rather than the more American Merry Christmas. Are you sure this law wasn't to prevent Americanisms from creeping into the British lexicon rather than not offending Muslims? wink

I'm not that familiar with British law so I can't really comment here. In the US such things would violate our 1st amendment protections.

fo' shizzle Answered by informer_220 on Jan 23, 2009, 12:49PM
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O_o thats weird...

I think it was a very dumb thing to do... _ the corner shop owners wouldnt hide their little kurans or the other muslim stuff they have around there ust because they are in britain...

*sigh* shame british politics are going down the drain just from senseless fear...

internet Answered by kingofpop on Jan 23, 2009, 01:01PM
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That's interesting. When I lived in Turkey, it wasn't uncommon to see nativity scenes, Santa Clauses, and other public Christmas decorations even though it's an overwhelmingly Muslim country. I found out that while most Turks don't celebrate Christmas, they recognize the holiday partly because the St. Nicholas legend was loosely based on a man from modern day Turkey.

Anyway, private and commercial expressions of religion don't bother me so long as they don't violate the religious freedom of others. Signs in a store or symbols on a TV show fall into this category. It's when religion becomes entangled in government policies and laws, public institutions, or involves taxpayer funding that it becomes a problem.

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Me :) Answered by beth_liveyourlife on Jan 23, 2009, 01:04PM
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Well most people I know say Merry Christmas, must just be who you have met. I suppose it will depend on the region as well. I don't think it's a LAW as such it just doesn't happen anymore.

Answered by amblessed on Jan 23, 2009, 01:11PM
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Attempts are being made to extinguish anything Christian - not surprising, see the book of Revelation but Christian's need not fear - reminds me of part of one of my favorite song lyrics: 'The wicked oppressing, now cease from distressing, sing Praises to His name...He forgets NOT his own', Amen !!

kitty Answered by ty on Jan 23, 2009, 01:35PM
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I'm confused? so there is or there isnt a law?

I cant find any mention of it online

Me :) Answered by beth_liveyourlife on Jan 23, 2009, 04:25PM
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Lets not start a racial dispute. We're all one I my eyes- everyone's equal.

No, it's not a law. My mum tried to find one in December but couldn't find on any were. My mums boyfriend then explained the situation. I understand we have to accept other cultures and religions and I'm totally fine with that but when our own culture is jeopardized? We shouldn't need to change. I'm sure other religions wouldn't be offended. Maybe the government is just a little to precautious

meeee! without glasses... Answered by mesinger on Jan 23, 2009, 05:47PM
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It is a bit far. I wouldn't really care about the symbol if I don't worship it. It is stupid.

Not nice to laugh at other's short comings Answered by ethmer on Jan 23, 2009, 06:25PM
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Spartan512,

People need to accept it, and let it go.

It is that perception that allowed the Nazi's to come to power allowing for the following atrocities.

It is only when individual members of society challenge unjust laws and actions that violate the privacy and freedom of the individual that societies can be free and individuals can prosper.

Sorry, Beth, didn't mean to get off topic.

If Britain has made such a law then it is anti individual expression. Britain would be better off allowing such divergences of culture which promotes the understanding and acceptance of other cultures. It is only when people learn about and experience the uniqueness of other cultures that the various cultures can come together as a whole working for the benefit of the whole country.


        Simply a Rose to brighten your day,
        And maybe lessen the cares in your way;
        And also, too, to help you to know,
        That in knowing you, many others grow!

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kitty Answered by ty on Jan 23, 2009, 07:42PM
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So I'm still a little confused... if there's no law, then what exactly prevents people from selling the signs?

just me Answered by sarahphil7 on Jan 23, 2009, 08:40PM
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they--are--taking--it--a--bit--too--far... if they are really good people like muslims, maybe they should accept other people's beliefs like you do. I mean, come on, you mind your own business, they mind their own business. that simple

Me when I'm busy Answered by arachnid on Jan 24, 2009, 07:45AM
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In Britain we are no longer allowed to sell Merry Christmas signs.

I'm fairly certain that there's no such law. If you're going to claim there is, perhaps you could link us to the relevant legislation? If not, there's nothing to get upset about.

I think its way too far. People trying to take the under god from the pledge of allegiance... Come on people, just let it go.

'under god' was only added to the pledge of allegiance recently. Given that your country explicitly enforces separation of church and state, and given that the pledge was fine without that phrase for a couple of hundred years, wanting to remove it again doesn't seem unreasonable.

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Answered by silverwings on Jan 24, 2009, 07:24PM
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The people who are behind this movement, are Atheists, who want to remove every mention of Christ from our consciencesness...they think by doing so, they will completly remove Gods influence from our society. They believe they are winning, however, history proves them wrong, because everytime persecution comes to the church... it multiplies.

God always has the last say.

Toadaly Answered by toadaly on Jan 24, 2009, 08:43PM
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*** In Britain we are no longer allowed to sell Merry Christmas signs.

If there's any truth to this, perhaps Britain should take a lesson from a former colony and formally protect free speech.

Me :) Answered by beth_liveyourlife on Jan 25, 2009, 04:51AM
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As far as I no it ISN'T a law. Whether the shops made a conscious decision or what I don't know? But we looked in 3 neighboring towns and no signs.

I've just been researching this and it seems certain American shops are following suit... workers in Wendy's aren't allowed to Merry Christmas they have to say happy Holidays. Whataburger Restaurant's headquarters decided not to put up any decorations in store. The words to we wish you a merry Christmas have been changed

Answered by tash on Jan 25, 2009, 07:15AM
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really? they do that? well I'm a muslim, and I wouldn't be offended. we also have christmas signs selling in my country, why would they do that in britain.

woofstock Answered by utopia on Jan 26, 2009, 05:36PM
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Let me get this straight...
you state that in Britain, shops are no longer allowed to sell merry christmas signs.
Then you state it is not a law, maybe the shops are selecting not to sell the signs.

Are you trying to be inflamatory?

Now you state that the words to we wish you a merry christmas have been changed.
To what?

Me :) Answered by beth_liveyourlife on Jan 27, 2009, 09:03AM
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Utopia- I can see why you are getting confused. I admit I didn't explain myself 100%. But I will say it again- it is not a law. But they are not available anymore.

No I am not tying to be inflammatory. I just wondered if people thought these things were ok. I was curious about peoples opinions- curiosity is part of the human brain.

They have been changed to We wish you a happy holiday

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