When does "discipline" go too far?

When Does 'Discaplen' go to far? As in, Discaplen when you hit a child? When Does it cross the line from Dicaplen to Abuse?

Dear Wonder
Discipline means 'to teach' Abusers will take the 'discipline' thing and twist it around so they can justify abusing someone..maybe their own child, wife, etc...
Abusers get their victims to believe it is discipline and they are coming down hard on them for their own good. This is the world of verbal, mental, and physical abuse. The abuser can get away with abusing by doing it in the name of discipline..in the name of love..in the name of 'saying' they want the best for their child etc...All the while the abuser/bully gets off on the hurt they deliver..it is like a drug to them..beating someone down verbally,mentally, or even physically, and then actually getting a high off of it...These people are skunks... The problem for the victim is it is hard to know what angle the parent is taking...Actually you are asking a really good question.
The way I would answer it would be as follows:
Usually you will feel smarter after some good discipline..With proper discipline you should have a feeling of still being loved..The person giving the discipline should explain why..how they want you to learn so you develop into a good person..how they are trying to help you now so when you get older you will live happier..With abuse you may hear more name calling..'be so stupid' 'You will never amount to anything' with abuse (if you listen close) They will really strive to make you think bad about you and everything about yourself...Discipline kind of removes 'you' from the discipline...discipline centers more on what you did...'the act' of what you did..and how mom or dad will discipline the 'actions' striving to make you better..knowing the bad actions can hurt you down the road in life. I hope this helps...You can funmail me anytime and I can help you more with your situation..OK?
Familycoach

By definition abuse is:

1: a corrupt practice or custom
2: improper or excessive use or treatment : misuse
3obsolete : a deceitful act : deception
4: language that condemns or vilifies usually unjustly, intemperately, and angrily
5: physical maltreatment

If any of these apply in your opinion, using your best judgement, report - I wish you the best !!

Four categories of abuse are briefly defined:
* Physical Abuse - Any non-accidental, out-of-control injury.
* Sexual Abuse - Any sexual act between adult and child.
* Neglect - Failure to provide for the child's physical needs.
* Emotional Abuse - Any attitude or behavior interfering with a child's
mental or social development, including lack of love.

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If the parent strikes the child on purpose with any physical object - belt, switch, whip, etc - it is abusive. Or a fist. Not a single open-handed swat to the bottom.

That's my opinion.

Dear wonderpetsrule,
Anything other then a light tap to the bottom is now considered abuse. You cannot leave any mark on a child, even with the slap to the bottom. This is what the law determines. As workers we frown on even the slap to the bottom. This shows a lack of coping skills from the adults. There is never a time when a bigger person because of frustration or anger should touch a child...this is considered bullying. Now you know why we have so many bullies today.
Sue...good luck

Well I guess it really matters who does it!
Like if he hits too hard then he should stop!

you should never hit a child ost children need support today. why would yiou have to hit a child.to refrain a child from hurting you or themseleves tskes effort mentaly a professional person should always be there to help in those situation that is not to get to the point of dischapter

Corporal punishment has been around forever, considering most of the population is not crazy, or homocidal, I dont think it did that much harm.

It turns into abuse when kids actually have lasting bruises or other injuries, more than a couple of mins...

This whole debate is ridiculous, there is nothing wrong with a slap or a smack on the bottom, and sometimes it is necessary, it is not always that the parent is just frustrated, but sometimes kids need to remember certain lessons (like dont run across the street)

If its constant and for mo apparent good reason then it is considered abuse. In my opinion however, I think that any physical punishment is wrong. But for the sake of your question, anything that leaves a mark or is anything more than a light spank or tap should be considered abuse and whoever it is involving should talk to someone.
Good luck.